Feature From Cowboy Hats to Neon Lights: The Evolution of Bangkok's Soi Cowboy

[garygooner]

Some of my favourite bars back in the 90s in Soi Cowboy:

Black & White, Our Place, Shadow, Darling, Butterfly, Tilac, Midnite, Long Gun, Suzie Wong, Big Blue, Tony's. 

[Dogmatix]

I never saw the original bar or Mr Edwards but was there in the early 80s and it was a very quiet place with only osingle shophouse bars and music often provided by a jukebox.  Drinks from 30 baht and very little pressure to buy lady drinks.  Sometime in the mid 90s they started knocking bars together to make the double shophouse bars which justified higher prices than the single bars.  Coyotes arrived in around 2010 charging more for less.  In the noughties it was said that a shady Iranian character had bought several of the bars as a money laundry operation.  

 

Now it seems in transition to a makeover like Wanchai in HK had become by the mid 80s, i.e. a rip off place where local expats didn't go but visiting US sailors went to blow their wads and get nothing in return.  There are now more thana few nasty rip off bars in Cowboy where they heavily pad your bill up to about 6,000 in under a half hour.  Even some  of the remaining single shophouse bars that were normal a few months earlier start to do that, so you are taken unawares.  I guess there are enough Chinese tourists now that the whole street will be a no go area for local expats soon enough.  Last time

 

I went there the cannabis shop near the Asoke end had been turned into a massage parlour.  Undercutting the bars I guess because there is no need to pay a bar fine, ladies drinks or a short time hotel.

[Dogmatix]

1 hour ago, LisuLover said:

Ive been recently, Long Gun still has girls firing pussy darts at balloons on the ceiling - go at 12.30 for 1am show, they rarely miss, don’t sit at the front, or wear welding goggles. Rio, Deja Vu, Spice Girls are insisting that a Lady Drink is actually two drinks, plus your beer, so the first round could be more than 500 baht. The girls do so well out of this, that some are refusing boom boom and prefer to stay in the bar all night drinking tiny shots of cola, that you have paid 250 baht for.

 

Quite a few of the bars have been saying a lady's drink is a double or "bern" for some time.  You can argue with them that you only agreed to one drink before they pour them but it is exhausting.  Easier just to say no and not buy them drinks at all, unless you are really smitten which is rarely the case.

[tilaceer]

7 hours ago, Jim Blue said:

Only went once the bar had a glass  ceiling. I suppose the staff had to break through it to progress  career wise .....!

Baccara Bar

[Mad Mustang]

Now like Pattaya, just an over priced mongers dump. Gross

[blaze master]

3 hours ago, hotchilli said:

A rather sad admission if you think that's alluring... no wonder Thailands tourism is sliding... Soi Cowboy has hardly evolved, it's still pimping out the same old trade.

 

Family friendly ?

[tilaceer]

1 hour ago, garygooner said:

No way. Hangover 2 scene was in Tilac Bar, Soi Cowboy. Look at the decor. 

Correct, though from what I remember the scenes were shot during the day when all the bars except Piccolo bar at one end, and Old Dutch at the other, were closed. Someone told me that Suzie Wong's did a refit based on the fact that they were going to film in there, but I don't think they did. 
 

[Packer]

It had already gone downhill 15 years ago, I can't imagine it now.

 

Back then I think 'The Arab' bought 4 or5 of the big bars, and 'Agency Girls' became the norm in many. That was the end of it for me. 

[Packer]

4 minutes ago, Mad Mustang said:

Now like Pattaya, just an over priced mongers dump. Gross

 

The hot girls are all online taking in 10k+ a day with a few short-times. Bars are left with nothing but fat, old, tatted E-San hags. 🤮

[Classic Ray]

I walk through from Asoke towards the Clubhouse to see some mates and the annoying thing is the number of motorcycles cutting through it. Time it was pedestrianised.

[DTL2014]

now a clip joint where you get brought bills for drinks you didnt have - and t5hen the securityu will turn up to enforce the scamming - dreadful place -only exists for the bribes it pays  to govt officials

[Captain Flack]

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[Dogmatix]

3 hours ago, DTL2014 said:

now a clip joint where you get brought bills for drinks you didnt have - and t5hen the securityu will turn up to enforce the scamming - dreadful place -only exists for the bribes it pays  to govt officials

 

The last time it and most other red light areas were fun was during the period at the end of COVID when bars were allowed to reopen, ostensibly as restaurants for a while (some put up price lists of hamburgers and hot dogs), but they were still not letting in tourists, except that many of the old haunts didn't survive and had closed down. When the tourists came back, it seemed they were determined to make up lost income by fleecing tourists and anyone else who walked into their cross hairs. 

[Dogmatix]

If you want to go to a place that is similar to what Cowboy was in the 80s, go to Ban Chan.

[Jim Blue]

4 hours ago, Packer said:

 

The hot girls are all online taking in 10k+ a day with a few short-times. Bars are left with nothing but fat, old, tatted E-San hags. 🤮

Any further tips ? Someone's wife was asking !

[Sierra Tango]

9 hours ago, Magictoad said:

It's the end or the beginning of the stroll between Soi Nana and Soi Cowboy.

Don't be an idiot. Who, in their right mind would do that stroll?. 

 

[lamyai3]

6 hours ago, tilaceer said:

Someone told me that Suzie Wong's did a refit based on the fact that they were going to film in there, but I don't think they did. 
 

 

I think Cactus Bar got an exterior face-lift for the movie. 

[Gottfrid]

15 hours ago, JoePai said:

plus very expensive   😎

But simple!  Don´t go if you can´t afford. You know, most of us here don´t care about a night out. We can handle it!

 

[mstevens]

12 hours ago, yang123 said:

Playskool (sp) is in Nana Plaza, not Soi Cowboy.  

Try again ....

Playskool in Nana closed many years ago.

[lamyai3]

17 hours ago, yang123 said:

Playskool (sp) is in Nana Plaza, not Soi Cowboy.  

Try again ....

Probably he meant Afterskool. 

[charmonman]

21 hours ago, Real Name Hidden said:

Oh, there weren't ripoff bars in the 90s?  Hasn't changed much and many bars are still the same (Suzy Wongs, Moonshine, etc).

Were you there in the 90s? It has definitely changed a lot since then, and not for the better. I used to hang out there once or twice a week through the first half of the 90s and earlier. I used to love the atmosphere. Now it is just a loud pushy tourist trap and I can’t stand it.

[Real Name Hidden]

1 minute ago, charmonman said:

Were you there in the 90s? It has definitely changed a lot since then, and not for the better. I used to hang out there once or twice a week through the first half of the 90s and earlier. I used to love the atmosphere. Now it is just a loud pushy tourist trap and I can’t stand it.

Yes, I was there in the 90s.  The biggest difference now is bars have better signage.  Memories are skewed, you remember the best of times and forget the rest, things always seem to have been better before.

[charmonman]

20 hours ago, emptypockets said:

That was Soi 7/1 not Cowboy.

To my knowledge the outdoor scenes were soi 7/1 (I stumbled upon the filming one day) and at least some of the indoors scenes were Tilac on Cowboy (I knew a dancer there who told me she had been paid to appear as an extra in the movie).

[charmonman]

6 minutes ago, Real Name Hidden said:

Yes, I was there in the 90s.  The biggest difference now is bars have better signage.  Memories are skewed, you remember the best of times and forget the rest, things always seem to have been better before.

Agree to disagree.