Apologies | Trump Isn't Racist

[josephbloggs]

5 hours ago, frank83628 said:

No, that was my point, you never mentioned anything about him or the millions of illegals, but now all of a sudden you're up in arms about 40 odd people.

 

I haven't read about these SAs coming in, nor do i care, neither do you if you are honest with yourself... its just your trump derandement obsession that compelled you write something.

If you really want to know, I'd suggest looking at the white house page, see what they have to say, or some pro trump pages, then cross reference that with your MSM lies, somewhere in the mix you will find the truth.

I never mentioned the moon landings either, or the price of eggs. This topic is not about Biden, get over that.

 

[josephbloggs]

5 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

that would be such an amazing win for America if the slaves were finally repatriated back to Africa. They are such a burden in so many ways. I would gladly swap all the white South African for all the blacks in America.

Finally someone has the courage to admit they just don't like blacks.

Rather than skirt around nonsense about "MSM", Biden Biden Biden, blah blah blah, just a good old fashioned bit of racism - send the blacks home. Good on you!

[josephbloggs]

5 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Well fed? They are farmers, of course.

Safe? Yeah, except for being murdered and having their women raped and having their land confiscated by the government.

 

I see  a group of families. Happy and grateful to be in the US.  Skilled workers, speak English, waving American flags. No gang tattoos in sight. Of course Democrats hate them. 

Oh, I get it, and people from other countries aren't being murdered, raped, living in fear of death every single day. Only the white people are.

And seeing as you know so much (you know how skilled they are for a start), how many of them were raped? How much land did they have confiscated? How much land has any white South African had confiscated? (I'll give you a clue, the answer is none).

Perhaps you are getting confused with Zimbabwe 20 years ago - easily done!

[Jingthing]

I have nothing against considering South African Afrikaners for asylum.

But the special treatment Trump is giving them while excluding EVERYONE ELSE is solid proof yet again that the maga fascist movement indeed a WHITE NATIONALIST one. 

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

Finally someone has the courage to admit they just don't like blacks.

Rather than skirt around nonsense about "MSM", Biden Biden Biden, blah blah blah, just a good old fashioned bit of racism - send the blacks home. Good on you!

If Trump is so racist and doesn't like black people why then did he release around 5000 from prison in his first term with his First step act?

You need to give up on the racism thing, its makes you look like a clown to everyone apart from your fellow Derangement culters.

Perhaps its you that is projecting your racism onto DJT.

 

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/520482-bringing-black-men-back-home/

[Hanaguma]

2 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Oh, I get it, and people from other countries aren't being murdered, raped, living in fear of death every single day. Only the white people are.

And seeing as you know so much (you know how skilled they are for a start), how many of them were raped? How much land did they have confiscated? How much land has any white South African had confiscated? (I'll give you a clue, the answer is none).

Perhaps you are getting confused with Zimbabwe 20 years ago - easily done!

Not confused, but the parallels are quite apparent. South Africa has descended into a chaotic mess. "Kill The Boer" and all that. 

 

I am amazed at how, now, the left suddenly is so demanding of vetting and qualifications for refugees. It didn't happen for the previous 10 million...

 

Of course there are other deserving applicants. But that doesn't mean that the Boers are not in equal fear. These are people who I would welcome into my neighbourhood. Much like the Cubans who fled Castro and the Cambodians who fled Pol Pot. 

[BLMFem]

Dang, even relatives of Mexican drug cartel members are being welcomed!

 

Mexican security chief confirms cartel family members entered US in a deal with Trump administration

https://apnews.com/article/el-chapo-sinaloa-cartel-trump-border-harfuch-86572a31c88a216da7cd5f33006a0011

[Nick Carter icp]

8 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

that would be such an amazing win for America if the slaves were finally repatriated back to Africa. They are such a burden in so many ways. I would gladly swap all the white South African for all the blacks in America.

 

  What would you do with the half caste people ? 

Like Obama .

Would you send him back as well ?

[mogandave]

The left allows millions of unskilled, illiterate illegal aliens flood into the country from all over the world. and they are up in arms about letting a few white, English people that will likely be productive into the country. 

 

Typical. 

 

Hypocrite, thy name is lefty.

[Nick Carter icp]

3 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Finally someone has the courage to admit they just don't like blacks.

Rather than skirt around nonsense about "MSM", Biden Biden Biden, blah blah blah, just a good old fashioned bit of racism - send the blacks home. Good on you!

 

   Did you say the same about Black South Africans who discriminated against White South Africans and wanted them "sent home" or killed even ?

[josephbloggs]

4 hours ago, frank83628 said:

If Trump is so racist and doesn't like black people why then did he release around 5000 from prison in his first term with his First step act?

You need to give up on the racism thing, its makes you look like a clown to everyone apart from your fellow Derangement culters.

Perhaps its you that is projecting your racism onto DJT.

 

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/520482-bringing-black-men-back-home/

Do you have reading comprehension issues. You quoted my reply in response to a poster who said he would take all South African whites if he could send all the blacks in America home.

That's not racist? That's not me projecting anything, that is a clearly racist point of view.

[josephbloggs]

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Did you say the same about Black South Africans who discriminated against White South Africans and wanted them "sent home" or killed even ?

I don't remember the thread about that. Do you have a link?

Pretty sure the blacks had a worse time under apartheid than the whites, don't you think? 

But yes, killing is bad and should be condemned on both sides. But in the grand scheme of things the "hardship" of whites in South Africa is a speck of dust compared to the misery they inflicted on the indigenous black population.

[NorthernRyland]

28 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Do you have reading comprehension issues. You quoted my reply in response to a poster who said he would take all South African whites if he could send all the blacks in America home.

That's not racist? That's not me projecting anything, that is a clearly racist point of view.

 

This racism nonsense is missing the point. This is reality on the ground. NYC. Do you notice how all the races live apart from each other? White people will grandstand endlessly about racism and apartheid but when it comes to their own lives this is what they do.

 

That's why the white S.A. are welcome because you don't have this problem with them and they can integrate and intermarry. That's why Americas immigration favored Europeans since  day one. This is common sense.

 

Also let's pretend you don't have preferences also. Why did you move to Thailand when you could have chosen any number of African countries? If they aren't good enough for you then why should they be good enough for us?

 

 

 

[NorthernRyland]

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  What would you do with the half caste people ? 

Like Obama .

Would you send him back as well ?

 

oh come on I'm just saying Americans would be better off with people they can actually integrate with and will be willing to live around. This is common sense.

 

If the slaves were freed and repatriated just think of all the struggles and problems we would have avoided and continue to go on year after year with no end in sight. None of that has been good for white Americans and it's a burden. That's my point.

[josephbloggs]

4 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

This racism nonsense is missing the point. This is reality on the ground. NYC. Do you notice how all the races live apart from each other? White people will grandstand endlessly about racism and apartheid but when it comes to their own lives this is what they do.

 

That's why the white S.A. are welcome because you don't have this problem with them and they can integrate and intermarry. That's why Americas immigration favored Europeans since  day one. This is common sense.

 

Also let's pretend you don't have preferences also. Why did you move to Thailand when you could have chosen any number of African countries? If they aren't good enough for you then why should they be good enough for us?

 

 

 

Frankly I have no idea what you are on about. And I have idea what your colourful map of a city is supposed to show, nor do I care.  

I just called out your comments of wanting to send all the blacks "home" to be what it is, if the reality that that is a racist comment offends you so be it.

And why didn't I move to Africa?? Weird question. I moved to Thailand because I got offered a nice job here - I had never been here before but thought I'd give it a go. I couldn't have "chosen" any country - I came here for work. If I had been offered a good job in Africa I might have considered that, who knows.

[BLMFem]

 

6 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

oh come on I'm just saying Americans would be better off with people they can actually integrate with and will be willing to live around

And just who are these "Americans" you talk of. White Americans, right? Many of them descendants from immigrants who came here later than many of the African Americans did.

So maybe you're the one that should "go back".

[NorthernRyland]

5 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Frankly I have no idea what you are on about. And I have idea what your colourful map of a city is supposed to show, nor do I care.  

I just called out your comments of wanting to send all the blacks "home" to be what it is, if the reality that that is a racist comment offends you so be it.

 

well you should care about the map because the entire point and it's important. Depending on who the immigrant is you get segregation or integration. That's an extremely important thing to get right.

 

[BLMFem]

15 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

Also let's pretend you don't have preferences also. Why did you move to Thailand when you could have chosen any number of African countries? If they aren't good enough for you then why should they be good enough for us?

What?? Just when I thought you couldn't say anything dumber....😂

[NorthernRyland]

3 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

And just who are these "Americans" you talk of. White Americans, right? Many of them descendants from immigrants who came here later than many of the African Americans did.

So maybe you're the one that should "go back".

 

the point is not everyone can assimilate. Look at the map of NYC. Every single American city is like that. You guys are in denial if you think all immigrants are equal and you shouldn't discriminate.

 

Haven't you see enough problems in Thailand with just the tourists? Imagine if all those people got citizenship and were here for good. It would be a disaster. 

[BLMFem]

2 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

well you should care about the map because the entire point and it's important. Depending on who the immigrant is you get segregation or integration. That's an extremely important thing to get right.

 

Yess so send back to Europe about 100 million White Yanks and get 100 million Africans to the US. Job done.

[josephbloggs]

8 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

What?? Just when I thought you couldn't say anything dumber....😂

He thinks poor people should live in rich neighbourhoods so there is integration. You know, the poor people who get rejected for mortgages in "elite" neighbourhoods, the poor people who don't have generational wealth and access to the same standards of eduction as in the rich neighbourhoods. 

But rather than strive for equality and equal opportunity so you may see more blacks living in wealthy areas, better just to send them all "back to where they came home" and replace them with white south africans.

He is not only openly racist but he is also naive and deluded and has a very simple outlook on things - some might say as simplistic as black and white.

[NorthernRyland]

6 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

He thinks poor people should live in rich neighbourhoods so there is integration. You know, the poor people who get rejected for mortgages in "elite" neighbourhoods, the poor people who don't have generational wealth and access to the same standards of eduction as in the rich neighbourhoods. 

 

I'm just telling you how it actually is. This policy is driving segregation. That's a fact and there's nothing you can do about it except force people to live together.

 

You're waging a war against human nature with this one and you will keep failing.

 

https://www.npr.org/2022/07/14/1111060299/school-segregation-report

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Do you have reading comprehension issues. You quoted my reply in response to a poster who said he would take all South African whites if he could send all the blacks in America home.

That's not racist? That's not me projecting anything, that is a clearly racist point of view.

I don't care what reply you are referring to,  Your whole thread was implying Trump was racist, but he isn't,  read the atlrticle about his 'first step' act..5000 black dudes released, and helped to find jobs, its you who is a racist,

 

 

[NorthernRyland]

27 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

I don't care what reply you are referring to,  Your whole thread was implying Trump was racist, but he isn't,  read the atlrticle about his 'first step' act..5000 black dudes released, and helped to find jobs, its you who is a racist,

 

 

there's no point in defending these racism allegations. It doesn't matter what Trump does they will call him racist.

 

He allowed in a group of under 100 white people and even this was enough to set them off.

[josephbloggs]

8 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

there's no point in defending these racism allegations. It doesn't matter what Trump does they will call him racist.

 

He allowed in a group of under 100 white people and even this was enough to set them off.

It's like talking to a brick wall. It is the hypocrisy and double standards - not the fact some white people came in.

The fact he put a stop to ALL asylum applications including people at risk of death, persecution, people in war zones etc. All stopped. That is up to him, that is a clear and consistent decision even if I think it is inhumane.

But considering the above he then not only lets in, but FAST TRACKS, some white people as asylum seekers, bypassing the usual UNHCR vetting procedures that all other asylum seekers have to undergo. And they are South African, they are not exactly running from war (and the people who are actually running from war have been put on hold).

 

Are you so blinkered by your love for him and your hatred for non white people (you said you would like all blacks removed from America - you said it, not me) that you can't see even a teeny tiny problem with that? You don't see any hypocrisy or double standards? Really? Nothing there worthy of discussion or - shock horror and perish the thought - a little bit of scrutiny or criticism?

[josephbloggs]

44 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

I don't care what reply you are referring to,  Your whole thread was implying Trump was racist, but he isn't,  read the atlrticle about his 'first step' act..5000 black dudes released, and helped to find jobs, its you who is a racist,

 

 

Ah, the old, "but he did something that benefited some black people" deflection. Maybe he has black friends too so that's ok.

Here is the First Step. Try reading it. He didn't do it to release "black dudes" although some "black dudes" did fall under its remit as there are proportionately more of them incarcerated in America than any other ethnic group.

 

https://www.bop.gov/inmates/fsa/overview.jsp

[frank83628]

2 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Ah, the old, "but he did something that benefited some black people" deflection. Maybe he has black friends too so that's ok.

Here is the First Step. Try reading it. He didn't do it to release "black dudes" although some "black dudes" did fall under its remit as there are proportionately more of them incarcerated in America than any other ethnic group.

 

https://www.bop.gov/inmates/fsa/overview.jsp

Go away you racist POS.

Your whole thread is you projection. You should be reported as such.

[NorthernRyland]

12 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

It's like talking to a brick wall. It is the hypocrisy and double standards - not the fact some white people came in.

The fact he put a stop to ALL asylum applications including people at risk of death, persecution, people in war zones etc. All stopped. That is up to him, that is a clear and consistent decision even if I think it is inhumane.

But considering the above he then not only lets in, but FAST TRACKS, some white people as asylum seekers, bypassing the usual UNHCR vetting procedures that all other asylum seekers have to undergo. And they are South African, they are not exactly running from war (and the people who are actually running from war have been put on hold).

 

 

Yes this is because he prefers them over the others. You call that racism, I call that common sense. Not everyone shares your worldview.

[josephbloggs]

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

Go away you racist POS.

Your whole thread is you projection. You should be reported as such.

Oh dear, can't handle a discussion: get upset, throw your toys out of the pram instead when presented with actual things to read that might go against your ingrained biases - things that you introduced in to the discussion (but obviously don't understand) -  and then start name calling - brilliant!

You brought up the First Step (with no link). I gave you a link to the official government First Step policy to have a look at and you got all angry and shouty. If simple facts can trigger that outburst then you must be a very precious snowflake indeed.

And how has me criticising one of Trump's policies made me a racist exactly? That is one of the funniest things I have ever read. And there is a guy in this thread saying he would like to send all blacks "home" and replace them with white south africans.........and I'm the racist for calling that out? What planet are you on?

Big tough right wingers have the thinnest skin.

[ericthai]

On 5/13/2025 at 2:27 AM, josephbloggs said:

I may have implied I that Donald Trump was an idiot, and I am certain I have implied he's a racist and has racist agendas. I am willing to hold my hands up and say I was wrong because I read that he just fast tracked some African refugees. They bypassed the usual processing, they didn't include the UNHCR which is usually involved in the vetting procedure, and they were personally welcomed by US officials. Even though he has halted refugees from war torn countries, he still cared enough about these African refugees to come to their aid, bypass normal procedures and welcome them to their new life in the US of A. What a great man, what a great friend of poor Africans.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crljn5046epo

Er.......oh. I think they used the wrong picture.

 

 

How stupid, like only black people live in Africa. We are talking less than a plane full of people (59)

No issues when Haitians were coming to the USA. 

 

 The U.S. government resumed the Haitian Family Reunification Parole Program in 2022, allowing eligible Haitians with a U.S.-citizen or legal permanent resident family member to move to the United States while their green-card application is pending. In January 2023, the Biden administration extended an immigration parole program initially reserved for Venezuelans to Haitians (as well as Cubans and Nicaraguans) who have a U.S. sponsor, apply in advance, and travel by plane. The program allows parolees to reside and work in the United States for two years. Through September 2023, the 85,300 Haitian parole recipients represented the largest group of beneficiaries of this process. Also, Temporary Protected Status (TPS), which grants temporary work authorization and relief from deportation, has been redesignated and extended for Haitians, covering more than 116,500 Haitian-born individuals as of March 2023.

 

The left believes It's bad to be white these days. If you're a white male, well...you're the devil which several congress women like to claim (Ilhan Oma, Jasmine Crocket). 

My nephew's son was told in school he's privileged because he's white and he should be ashamed of that.  (He's home schooled now).  

 

Millions of illegal immigrants in the USA and you're upset the US let 59 people enter legally.