Trump Mocks France Over WWII Commemorations, Urges Greater U.S. Recognition

[bannork]

8 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

I have no problem with people dodging the draft.  The draft is immortal. 

 

[MicroB]

4 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

He went to college and did not serve his country. 

 

Every President serves their country.

[Bday Prang]

14 hours ago, Ricardo said:

In fact that series is still being re-run, on UK-TV, very funny !  

not on the BBC it aint

[MarkBR]

18 hours ago, dinsdale said:

The US was involved before Pearl Harbor just hadn't officially  declared war. You obviously do not know your history regarding WWII. I suggest you research the the Atlantic  convoy crossings going from the US to the UK and the "lend lease" program. It is true that Pearl Harbor was the catalyst for the US declaring war on Japan and then Germany but it's equally as true to say the US were already involved. BTW The World at War a 26 part series narrated by Sir Laurence Olivier is IMHO the definitive WW II documentary.  

Watched every episode when young, compelling & at times horrific.

[Yagoda]

17 hours ago, dinsdale said:

The World at War is a fantastic 26 part documentary about WWII. T

TV. Nuff said

[Chomper Higgot]

9 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

TV. Nuff said

In a sense I get your point.

 

I’m still waiting for you to share your first hand account of your part in the victory in Europe during WW2, straight from the horses mouth, so to speak.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

Every President serves their country.

Historically speaking that has been the case.

[Yagoda]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

 

 

I’m still waiting for you to share your first hand account of your part in the victory in Europe during WW2, straight from the horses mouth, so to speak.

Im still waiting for you to post something intelligent and non trolling. Gonna be a while.

[Yagoda]

35 minutes ago, MarkBR said:

Watched every episode when young, compelling & at times horrific.

But no reading list? Just TV?

[dinsdale]

16 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

TV. Nuff said

doc·u·men·ta·ry

/ˌdäkyəˈment(ə)rē,ˌdäkyəˈmenərē/

noun

a movie or a television or radio program that provides a factual record or report.

Nuff said.

[dinsdale]

7 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

But no reading list? Just TV?

It's very sad that you find a need to argue against something you have quite obviously never seen. 

 

[Yagoda]

Just now, dinsdale said:

doc·u·men·ta·ry

/ˌdäkyəˈment(ə)rē,ˌdäkyəˈmenərē/

noun

a movie or a television or radio program that provides a factual record or report.

Nuff said.

So therefore, you contend that a visual TV documentary will give the student the same detail, nuances, sources that one can obtain in a well researched and written book on the subject?

[Yagoda]

Just now, dinsdale said:

It's very sad that you find a need to argue against something you have quite obviously never seen. 

Bet you I watched it before you did, flamer. It was excellent, as an introductionary overview.

[dinsdale]

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

So therefore, you contend that a visual TV documentary will give the student the same detail, nuances, sources that one can obtain in a well researched and written book on the subject?

Did I say that? NO. I said IMO it's the definitive documentary series of WWII. Stop being obstinate. As for detail and nuances you have no right to this opinion unless you have seen the series which as I said above you obviously haven't.

[dinsdale]

5 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Bet you I watched it before you did, flamer. It was excellent, as an introductionary overview.

I watched it when it was 1st released in 1973. I'm currently watching it again. As for an overview this is in part correct but it's a bloody good one and of course one can go to other documentaries for specific topics within the war. Battle of Midway for a naval battle, Battle of Kursk for a tank battle, Battle of Stalingrad ........... etc. etc. 

[Yagoda]

6 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Did I say that? NO. I said IMO it's the definitive documentary series of WWII. Stop being obstinate. As for detail and nuances you have no right to this opinion unless you have seen the series which as I said above you obviously haven't.

LOL, sport I have used that series as a teaching aid for the recent generation of illiterate students. They have their reading list based on the episodes where appropriate. Want it?

[dinsdale]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

LOL, sport I have used that series as a teaching aid for the recent generation of illiterate students. They have their reading list based on the episodes where appropriate. Want it?

Yes. Post it on here. Looking forward to seeing it. 

[Yagoda]

29 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Yes. Post it on here. Looking forward to seeing it. 

No Order then

 

Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

Berlin Diary

The Hidden Hitler

Hitlers Vienna

The Pink Swatstika

Himmler (Padfield)

Goering (Mosely)

Inside the Third Reich

At Dawn We Slept

Day of Infamy

Battles of Stalingrad and Berlin-Beevor

Night

Hiroshima

D Day (Ambrose}

The Longest Day

Waffen SS (stein)

Ordinary Germans

The Holocaust by Bullets

Memoirs of Zuhkov

Menoirs of Chuikov

Khrushev Remembers

Life and Fate

The Black Book of Soviet Jewry

The 2nd World War (Beevor)

Bloodlands

Hitler (Kershaw)

Hitler (Payne)

The Rape of Nanking

The Rising Sun

 

 

Want more? Why dont you finish those and get back to me.

 

 

[dinsdale]

16 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

No Order then

 

Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

Berlin Diary

The Hidden Hitler

Hitlers Vienna

The Pink Swatstika

Himmler (Padfield)

Goering (Mosely)

Inside the Third Reich

At Dawn We Slept

Day of Infamy

Battles of Stalingrad and Berlin-Beevor

Night

Hiroshima

D Day (Ambrose}

The Longest Day

Waffen SS (stein)

Ordinary Germans

The Holocaust by Bullets

Memoirs of Zuhkov

Menoirs of Chuikov

Khrushev Remembers

Life and Fate

The Black Book of Soviet Jewry

The 2nd World War (Beevor)

Bloodlands

Hitler (Kershaw)

Hitler (Payne)

The Rape of Nanking

The Rising Sun

 

 

Want more? Why dont you finish those and get back to me.

 

 

A decent reading list but still doesn't alter the fact that The World at War is a great documentary series. Personally I hope you have included Mein Kampf. It's an interesting, albeit rambling in parts, read and should be required reading of any history of WWII academic reading list.

[Yagoda]

8 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

A decent reading list but still doesn't alter the fact that The World at War is a great documentary series.

It is. But is TV. Simplified, dumbed down and visual. 6 month battles in 60 minutes.

 

9 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Personally I hope you have included Mein Kampf.

Well as boring as that is, yes, but usually just as a source from historian that quotes it.

[Hummin]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

LOL, sport I have used that series as a teaching aid for the recent generation of illiterate students. They have their reading list based on the episodes where appropriate. Want it?

Just thinking of one with extreme coloured opinions teaching, no matter which pole we are talking about, is terrifying, and make it easier to understand today's generations, and why the outer poles growing even more apart. 

[JimGant]

11 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Ok, let's look at the historical record on participation;

Australia: 3 September 1939 

New Zealand; 3 September 1939

Canada: 10 September 1939 (official declaration after announcement  on 7 September 1939)

What stupidity, maintaining loyalty to the British Crown. And thus throwing your lads into that meat grinder against the krauts, with no need, as your own countries are completely safe from any German attack. And for the Aussies and Kiwis -- come Dec 7th -- their countries are now wide-open to Japanese attack, 'cause their lads are all fighting the European war. Fortunately, the US had a vested interest in preventing the Japanese from occupying Australia and New Zealand.

Madness.

[sandyf]

23 hours ago, Yagoda said:

So do you deny that the USA won the war or not? 

Of course they won the war, about the only country that did not have it's infrastructure decimated.

In the real war there was no winner.

[wwest5829]

21 hours ago, billd766 said:

Neither does having money equate with having intelligence, or even knowing when to be quiet or when to speak out.

 

21 hours ago, billd766 said:

Neither does having money equate with having intelligence, or even knowing when to be quiet or when to speak out.

Agreed. And Trump is a great example of this.

[Yagoda]

8 minutes ago, sandyf said:

the only country that did not have it's infrastructure decimated.

Are you claiming that WW2 damage left France and England "decimated' infrastructure wise?

[gamb00ler]

21 hours ago, billd766 said:

Neither does having money equate with having intelligence, or even knowing when to be quiet or when to speak out.

 

11 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

 

Agreed. And Trump is a great example of this.

Especially in Trump's case because his money either was inherited, grifted or the result of off loading personal debts to his soon to be bankruptcy bound businesses.

[MarkBR]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Historically speaking that has been the case.

Trump serves Trump only

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

No Order then

 

Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

Berlin Diary

The Hidden Hitler

Hitlers Vienna

The Pink Swatstika

Himmler (Padfield)

Goering (Mosely)

Inside the Third Reich

At Dawn We Slept

Day of Infamy

Battles of Stalingrad and Berlin-Beevor

Night

Hiroshima

D Day (Ambrose}

The Longest Day

Waffen SS (stein)

Ordinary Germans

The Holocaust by Bullets

Memoirs of Zuhkov

Menoirs of Chuikov

Khrushev Remembers

Life and Fate

The Black Book of Soviet Jewry

The 2nd World War (Beevor)

Bloodlands

Hitler (Kershaw)

Hitler (Payne)

The Rape of Nanking

The Rising Sun

 

 

Want more? Why dont you finish those and get back to me.

 

 

If you’ve read only a fraction of those books the question arises, what did you learn.

 

Your posting history on the parallels to what’s happening in the U.S. right now suggests you didn’t learn much, if anything, at all.

 

[JimGant]

11 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Are you claiming that WW2 damage left France and England "decimated' infrastructure wise?

Pretty much. They certainly didn't have the resources for rebuilding their depleted economies. Fortunately for Europe, the US was once again there to help them out. This time with the Marshal Plan, involving $13.3 billion in aid (equivalent to $135 billion in today's dollars).

 

Not completely for altruistic reasons, as the US needed robust trading partners so that future presidents had a place to hang their tariffs on.

[Yagoda]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

If you’ve read only a fraction of those books the question arises, what did you learn.

 

Well based on your posts, Flamer, you havent read any.

 

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Your posting history on the parallels to what’s happening in the U.S. right now suggests you didn’t learn much, if anything, at all.

 

Tell us what posts of mine you are referring to? Are you comparing the USA to the incipient National Socialist state? What facts support that? Tell us how the US constitution differs from the Weimar constitution? Since you dont even understand the philosophical basis of National Socialism, it would be fruitless to go further.

 

Tell us, was Joe Biden Competent to be President of the USA?

Did the Democrats lie to us about Joe Bidens mental acuity?

 

PS, when do you intend to apologize to the membership who you viciously insulted while defending the lies you spewed about Joe Bidens mental health.