Motorcysle - Who is at fault?

[actonion]

I would have thought it's quite obvious who is at fault..those using the main road  surely have right of way, so the bike in the side road is wrong, but being thailand they make up their own rules to suit the situation and color of your skin in my few experiences

[actonion]

On 5/22/2025 at 8:27 AM, Ken444 said:

Police told her (after 3 hours at the station - before going to hospital) That no one was at fault as she did not hit the other bike - even though the other bike rider was an unlicensed schoolgirl and pulled out without looking - they would not track her down.

Un licenced, no tax, im sure, laziness on the part of the police

[actonion]

23 hours ago, proton said:

So the police are happy to let the kid keep on riding illegally then?

In my experience last month, YES, they were happy  to tell me "its not important" for  a 16 year old Thai kid to hit my truck riding a 1 year old Honda Wave,   Un licenced, No  road Tax , No  compulsory government insurance, No helmet, and doing 70kph in a 45 kph area, when i said I  will take this to Court they told me  you will not win anything, you are a Farang,    so I say B.S to those who say Thailand is  a non racist country.....

[Ken444]

1 hour ago, thailand49 said:

I have seen many such accident in my years of living and driving here 20 years.

 

Police reasoning is why the driving in this country the way it is and a major reason it has to be change first and foremost train the police force as to what their current motor vehicle code suppose to be and enforce it.

 

Based on what I see, surprise both are wearing 29 baht rain gear and helmet. 

 

As we can see it was raining. The girl although not license therefore in theory shouldn't by even Thai law suppose to be on the road and if not this particular accident wouldn't have happened.🤣

 

To her credit she did stop and proceed at the horizontal line which is the same as a stop sign, Stop and proceed with caution. The other rider didn't seem to be going beyond the speed limit which on this road I guess would be 40-50, because of rain in the west we are educated slow down and use caution 🤣 but not here.  I've seen many of these types of accident!

 

The biker that went down by law had the right away but watching the footage and counting she had plenty of time to slow down and avoid but like many I've seen but condition to demand the right away to the point as if they intentionally want to hit the object as this video shows. Most likely was never trained to look seconds ahead instead raining too was looking down this is the habit of Thai drivers.

 

Regardless, like always the police has no clue never been trained explain things the same way they themselves drive. Regardless of the girl not looking forward enough the other driver had no license therefore should not have been on the road.

 

The police explanation are nonsense and I've been in situation for others that have challenge their explanation as to why particular a farang should pay for the accidents. I've heard reason that are far far laughable at best, like you would feel better if you pay since you have the money and they don't. I once told the police I would feel better if I could just slap you and your job is to enforce the Thai law not make up this is Thailand nonsense. In the end of this particular case with a friend said next time you want us to come down to your station I will bring lawyers with us, case closed never heard from them again but at the same time can't get <deleted> out of an empty <deleted>ter my buddy insurance had to cover the damage for his vehicle.

 

This case is clear for me at least!

Correct on all points, I have been here fpr 14 years and nothing surprises me.  No license = fault in most countries eh

[Ken444]

1 hour ago, actonion said:

Un licenced, no tax, im sure, laziness on the part of the police

No brown envelopes means no action

[ignore it]

Both.

 

No helmets.

 

Driving too fast for conditions

 

Failure to yield.

 

Next case.

[Thingamabob]

Both at fault, the motor biker for going too fast, the cyclist for not paying attention.

[Ken444]

37 minutes ago, ignore it said:

Both.

 

No helmets.

 

Driving too fast for conditions

 

Failure to yield.

 

Next case.

No Helmets - 🙂 you need glasses

[Ken444]

1 minute ago, Thingamabob said:

Both at fault, the motor biker for going too fast, the cyclist for not paying attention.

SO no license does not matter ?

 

[Ken444]

1 hour ago, actonion said:

In my experience last month, YES, they were happy  to tell me "its not important" for  a 16 year old Thai kid to hit my truck riding a 1 year old Honda Wave,   Un licenced, No  road Tax , No  compulsory government insurance, No helmet, and doing 70kph in a 45 kph area, when i said I  will take this to Court they told me  you will not win anything, you are a Farang,    so I say B.S to those who say Thailand is  a non racist country.....

I still laugh when I was caught many years ago with no license - roadside cop charged me 400 gave me a receipt and told me show this if you get stopped again and you will not need to pay 

 

[newbee2022]

On 5/22/2025 at 8:16 AM, SAFETY FIRST said:

Incompetent rider, going to fast for the road conditions 

 

It could have been a dog on the side of the road, rider needs to slow down if unable to react or manoeuvre around obstacles 

The dog was riding the bike

[ignore it]

17 minutes ago, Ken444 said:

No Helmets - 🙂 you need glasses

 

Motorcysle=Motorcycle

 

CORRECTION:

Both.

 

No helmet

Driving too fast for conditions

Failure to yield.

 

Next case

 

[Thingamabob]

7 minutes ago, Ken444 said:

SO no license does not matter ?

 

Of course it does. 

[SAFETY FIRST]

8 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

The dog was riding the bike

Yeh, I saw that 👍

[Foek]

Girl coming out the left lane is at fault, she did not stop at the stop line and was also cutting corners by driving on the wrong side of that left lane

[ujayujay]

It's simple! The main road has right of way in this case! If both are side streets, the left side has right of way!

[bogozy]

On 5/22/2025 at 8:16 AM, SAFETY FIRST said:

Incompetent rider, going to fast for the road conditions 

 

It could have been a dog on the side of the road, rider needs to slow down if unable to react or manoeuvre around obstacles 

Where do you see the dog?

[bogozy]

On 5/22/2025 at 9:11 AM, happysoul said:

There is fault both sides. The teen girl should have stopped 1m before but at least she stopped. Her driving is dangerous and she should learn how to stop in a crossing.

The one who fell down is also at fault as there was way enough room to avoid her. The latter did 2 mistakes : took the front brake way to hard moreover on wet road and she probably kept looking at the obstacle (teenage girl) instead of looking at where she could go to avoid her. This is a common mistake when driving : never stare at the obstacle but look where you can escape, the bike will follow your sight. It takes some experience to keep calm and be able to do it.

Hopefully all can still stand up and walk.

Cheers

The main road rider was put suddenly ín a surprise dangerous situation.

She need to make something, avois the collision.

You, and nobody can blaming her, why do you this, or that, instead something other action.

The young driver caused this dangerous situation.

 If she stopped before entering the main road,  nothing happened.

She crossed, blocked the way of the oncoming traffic 

 

[richard_smith237]

On 5/22/2025 at 8:27 AM, Ken444 said:

Police told her (after 3 hours at the station - before going to hospital) That no one was at fault as she did not hit the other bike - even though the other bike rider was an unlicensed schoolgirl and pulled out without looking - they would not track her down.

 

In that case the Police involved with this sitation were complete and utter lazy morons... 

 

Too lazy to enforce their own laws instead choosing to sweep this under the carpet because the rider who went down is likely considered poor and insignificant

 

The question of fault here is glaringly obvious; there is no ambiguity, no nuance. The facts speak for themselves.

 

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That said, the rider who went down was undeniably riding too quickly for the conditions - something all too common among motorcyclists who delay exercising caution until it’s far too late. However, this lapse in judgement does not absolve the other party of responsibility, especially when they pulled out directly into the rider’s path.

 

 

It is rather bewildering that one specific poster has entirely overlooked the most self-evident aspects of the situation, instead attempting to lay blame on the fallen rider. His ability to ignore such a clear-cut scenario borders on the surreal, as though his viewing the world through a lens so distorted it hinges on mental illness.

[Geoff914]

On 5/22/2025 at 2:42 AM, stupidfarang said:

at least the rider stopped and went and helped her up, normally they just ride off. 

She did just ride off, as it happens.

[Geoff914]

On 5/22/2025 at 4:44 AM, alien365 said:

I don't understand why the schoolgirl didn't stop at the broken line. You can see she stopped before it, but then accelerated out. Was there a solid white line before that on the road too, potentially a traffic light at the junction with it being that far back, or just bad road markings?

Untrained so probably looked left right and left again not right left and right again. But then I looked at the video again. It appears that she looked left as she approaches the stop line, doesn't look right at all and just pulls out. Seems totally surprised at the motor bike skidding in front of her.