access denied to enter in thailand

[norsurin]

I have a feeling its more to this story that the OP not telling.I been arriving 76 times and never had any problems.

They never ask for my return ticket only asked where i stay.And when i say the name of the hotel they run it and say ok.. enjoy ur stay.One time the lady officer ask me why im coming again and i joked and said for seing my mistress.

She told another lady officer to come to the desk and told her i arrived for meeting my mistress.They asked me how many i have and i said 11.We all laughing and stamped my passport when their shaking their heads.

But i seen people get arrested at the airport when try to get entry.

[soi3eddie]

2 hours ago, kiwi147 said:

Just like the immigration officer who denied my entry, when I asked if he could tell me the reason for the denial, he only replied, "You won't be entering the country today.

 

They want you to use the "fast track "- guaranteed and paid for entry. A friend had been in Thailand for a while in 2024 on visa exempts, went back to UK for a while and got a multi-entry tourist visa. On arrival in Bangkok, they wanted to refuse him entry. He argued his case. They told him "a visa does NOT guarantee entry". Eventually they let him in. He had to travel out again, so next re-entry, he used the "fast track" at about 4,000 Baht. Seems immigration at BKK are getting difficult in order to facilitate "fees". Likely shared amongst all the officers. 

 

How it works:

You contact an agent, they ask for a copy of you passport. You pay them in advance. They apparently get some sort of  "approval". On arrival, you meet the "agent" near the entrance to an immigration hall (1 or 2). They then escort you to a desk where you are stamped in with no questions. 

 

[Maestro]

Removed an off-topic post and the replies to it. The OP did not write that he used the electronic departure gate when he left Thailand in December 2024.

[Jack1988]

come on, just use the safe entry. Who cares about these bipolar thai immigration officers, especially female officers! However, i think foreigners aren't no more welcome in thailand. I feel like there is even more racism from thai people. And who always invent these type of visas? Thai government! But then they don't want foreigners anymore!? Totally nonsense🙄☹️😖😦😮‍💨

This topic makes me think about that Israeli girl that said: my money built your country. Maybe she was feeling this type of racism from the locals

[Dan O]

5 hours ago, kiwi147 said:

My old passport was expiring in February of the following year and I decided to renew it now that I was in Spain.

 

I have visited Thailand about 20 times in the last 15 years and have never had any problems with immigration so I don't think my name are confused with someone else but who knows ,,,,

Its most likely because your ed visa stamp wasnt canceled and when the Imm questioned you your answer, even if true, matches the standard excuse of family emergency and when you couldnt answer what is considered an easy question you couldnt so he presumed you may be trying to play the system. you could try applying for a tr visa but may be denied for the same reason. You can try a fast track agent, tell them the whole truth, or a lwayer who can get you info but may not be much more help. I would make sure to explain the family emergency and that you want to clear and close the ED visa if necessary. Contact MOF on their FB page and ask them for guidance. 

[scorecard]

8 hours ago, kiwi147 said:

I've contacted the central immigration office in Bangkok. That's the contact the embassy referred to me.

I don't have many expectations for a response. Just like the immigration officer who denied my entry, when I asked if he could tell me the reason for the denial, he only replied, "You won't be entering the country today.

 

I have friends who told me to use "fast track" and come now, and other friends tell me I should first find out if I have a ban. The agents I've contacted don't give any importance to whether I have a ban or not.

 

I prefer the second option: first find out if I've been banned and then apply for a visa to gain access.

 

8 hours ago, kiwi147 said:

I've contacted the central immigration office in Bangkok. That's the contact the embassy referred to me.

I don't have many expectations for a response. Just like the immigration officer who denied my entry, when I asked if he could tell me the reason for the denial, he only replied, "You won't be entering the country today.

 

I have friends who told me to use "fast track" and come now, and other friends tell me I should first find out if I have a ban. The agents I've contacted don't give any importance to whether I have a ban or not.

 

I prefer the second option: first find out if I've been banned and then apply for a visa to gain access.

 

What is 'fast track'? 

[Nick Carter icp]

6 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

 

What is 'fast track'? 

 

   Guaranteed entry , costs about 4000 Baht

[Tod Daniels]

Don't waste the money to check to see if your blacklisted. I can assure you with 100% accuracy, you are most definitely not banned.

 

You, (like many thousands of people each week), were just denied entry to Thailand.

 

It's not blacklisting, all it means is on this attempt they didn't let you in.

 

Check the last couple pages of your passport because what's happening now is people are not getting the half-page denial of entry stamp anymore but they are getting a small notation written on one of the last two pages of their passport that say 12.2

 

That refers to the immigration act clause 12 section 2. I've included the screen grab

 

As people have said use a safe entry company, which is not to be confused with a fast track entry company. They are completely different things.

 

Safe entry, get you into the country no matter what your previous entry history was and no matter if you have been denied entry previously.

 

Fast track entry, just jumps the queue and gets you to the front of the immigration line, but you face the immigration officer on your own and if your previous entry/stay history is excessive they can still deny you entry.

 

Here's two images of denial of entry stamps one shows somebody was denied in 2023 and then again in April of this year, and the other is just the denial they got in Jan 2025. BOTH those stamps were on the last page(s) of the passports <- so they're not easily noticed by people who get denied 😮 

 

 

[TaoNow]

OP should have told the Immo officer that he was a student in a Thai boxing course -- and could demonstrate the basics right there and then.

[Crossy]

For those unaware.

 

Section 12, subsection 2, of the Thai Immigration Act, B.E. 2522 (1979), states that aliens are excluded from entering the Kingdom if they have "no appropriate means of living on entering the Kingdom." This means they must be able to financially support themselves while in Thailand. 

 

It's the catch-all "insufficient funds" reason.

 

[at15]

11 hours ago, kiwi147 said:

That's what I want, if anyone has been in a similar situation I would appreciate it if you could give me the contact information of the lawyer who helped you.

You should be able to enter with a new visa, the problem is if you go to an immigration office for an extension you will need to clear this overstay. 500 baht per day up to a maximum of 20,000 baht.

[scorecard]

4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Guaranteed entry , costs about 4000 Baht

Thanks.

Cash on the table with receipts and a document saying 'Guaranteed Entry' or under the table?

[DrJack54]

6 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Thanks.

Cash on the table with receipts and a document saying 'Guaranteed Entry' or under the table?

No document. Just entry. 

Payment is via options such as QR code etc

 

[JoseThailand]

13 hours ago, kiwi147 said:

I arrive with a new passport and they not put anything

 

Check the very last page for a small NTL stamp

[newbee2022]

15 hours ago, kiwi147 said:

I've contacted them and am awaiting a response

That's it 👍

[NICKMONDO1]

stay in Barcelona, its healthier there

[AustinRacing]

Not sure your reason for insisting on returning to Thailand. The IO have smelled a rat in your intention meaning the visa you had applied for and your last method of coming to Thailand does not satisfy their requirement to allow you entry. Was it that the IO was in a bad mood, can’t say but it is what it is. 

[ignore it]

You can always study Thai on-line.

[scorecard]

3 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

No document. Just entry. 

Payment is via options such as QR code etc

 

So the arriving passenger shows a QR code? Is the QR code in his/her passport, or ???

[DrJack54]

16 minutes ago, scorecard said:

So the arriving passenger shows a QR code? Is the QR code in his/her passport, or ???

Guessing your question re payment is just a wind up.

Clearly anyone wishing to use "safe entry" agent will contact agent and be advised of what to send eg passport copies and arrival flight details etc + payment options.

Your point? 

You can do that quickly via contact in link I provided earlier. 

I had a chit chat via messenger. Not difficult. 

[BrandonJT]

@ThaiVisaCentre is now offering safe entry for 2000 baht, or if your case proves to be a difficult one, it's 4000 baht.

 

You would fill out their entry form, and then in the addons after you proceed to the next page you would choose the appropriate option.

 

https://tdac.agents.co.th/

[impulse]

7 hours ago, Tod Daniels said:

Safe entry, get you into the country no matter what your previous entry history was and no matter if you have been denied entry previously.

 

I'm not doubting that at all, but how does the Safe Entry company guaranty that their customer isn't blacklisted or otherwise barred from entry, perhaps by virtue of a checkered entry history?  Do they have a method of checking the passport against immigration records?

 

Certainly, they can't guaranty entry to any and all, regardless of history.  Or do they just inform the customer not to even try if there are red flags?

 

Again, I'm not doubting that it's a worthwhile service.  Just wondering how it works...

 

[DrJack54]

4 minutes ago, impulse said:

Do they have a method of checking the passport against immigration records?

The agent will just look at the passport. 

In the main the safe entry is for folk with  frequent visa exempt entries 

Even perhaps including a refused entry.

There are also certain visas that cause attention such as the "volunteering visas" during Covid and Ed visas.

The agent will advise on fee depending on situation.

Having a Ban I suggest don't try and enter with or without an agent. 

[impulse]

2 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Having a Ban I suggest don't try and enter with or without an agent. 

 

That's kind of what I was getting at...  If you have a home country arrest warrant, an Interpol red notice or... or..., I don't know how any agent can guaranty entry.  I'd hate to pay the 4000 baht, buy a 35,000 plane ticket and still get turned away.

 

[DrJack54]

Just now, impulse said:

I don't know how any agent can guaranty entry.  I'd hate to pay the 4000 baht, buy a 35,000 plane ticket and still get turned away

True.

As pointed out this "safe entry services" is in the main for group of folk outlined above.

Most common would be the ..."you come Thailand to muk get proper visa" 

In the main visa exempt crew. 

Several months in Thailand visa exempt + extensions. 

[BrandonJT]

42 minutes ago, impulse said:

I'm not doubting that at all, but how does the Safe Entry company guaranty that their customer isn't blacklisted or otherwise barred from entry, perhaps by virtue of a checkered entry history?  Do they have a method of checking the passport against immigration records?

 

You will be pre-cleared by the agent's contacts at the airport.  They will have already sent your passport information to the contact and will get approval from that contact along with the price to get you in. You will have to upload a photo of yourself shortly before arriving.  You will then meet an immigration officer before you get to immigration (hence the photo) and they will walk you through the Fast Track area, open a new window just for you, and stamp you in. This will all be arranged before your arrival. If the agent cannot do it, they will not accept your case.

[Tod Daniels]

14 minutes ago, BrandonJT said:

 

You will be pre-cleared by the agent's contacts at the airport.  They will have already sent your passport information to the contact and will get approval from that contact along with the price to get you in. You will have to upload a photo of yourself shortly before arriving.  You will then meet an immigration officer before you get to immigration (hence the photo) and they will walk you through the Fast Track area, open a new window just for you, and stamp you in. This will all be arranged before your arrival. If the agent cannot do it, they will not accept your case.

That's 100% exactly how "Safe Entry" works and the companies can usually do Don Mueang, Suvarnabhumi, Phuket and Chiang Mai as points of entry,

you have to send them copies of EVERY page of your passport now as well (since they started putting those small denial of entry stamps in the back pages 😛 )  
BUT
I had someone denied entry from Vietnam get shipped back there and came back in the next day on the SAME FLIGHT # at the same airport with no issue at all 😮 

Some nationalities they won't fool with, AND they run your passport thru the immigration system with their contact to see your previous entry/stay history and if you were denied entry before. 

They won't even tell you they can get you in if they can't,

[freedomnow]

8 hours ago, Tod Daniels said:

Safe entry, get you into the country no matter what your previous entry history was and no matter if you have been denied entry previously.

 

 

Even those banned on previous overstay ? (Just curious, I've never overstayed.)

[kiwi147]

They've already confirmed that I can enter through the secure entry, but my question is this: Will I also need a secure exit? Will I need a secure entry for the rest of my lifetime entries?

Because of these concerns, I'm reluctant to use this type of service... I've always tried to do things right, I have money, and I like to sleep peacefully at night without worries.

I've already paid the 6,500 baht to have my immigration history checked and to confirm that, although they didn't put a stamp in my passport, there's no explicit prohibition in the immigration system.

I'll keep you updated.

[DrJack54]

12 minutes ago, kiwi147 said:

They've already confirmed that I can enter through the secure entry, but my question is this: Will I also need a secure exit? Will I need a secure entry for the rest of my lifetime entries?

Need secure exit ? Answer NO.

Secure entry for lifetime? Answer NO.

Chill. You already wasted 6500 on ban check. 

Consider other options ongoing.

Look into DTV and see if that suits your plans.

Clearly under 50?