Swift Police Response to Liverpool Incident Signals Shift After Southport Tragedy

[brewsterbudgen]

1 minute ago, proton said:

Would they tell us if he was a white Englsih muslim? I very much doubt it

I don't think the suspect's religion has been mentioned yet.

[coolcarer]

11 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

You obviously missed this part, then:

 

"So far, Merseyside Police have not suggested that Monday’s incident meets that threshold. But by sharing early details about the suspect, the force is signaling a more transparent and proactive approach. While the public still does not know why this attack occurred, the police are attempting to communicate openly, even as many facts remain uncertain."

I didn’t miss any part. Not all not all info is in the OP

 

So they got it wrong last time and in future will be far quicker to get all the info out, my question was "An admission that they were wrong?"

 

The police’s rapid announcement of the ethnicity and nationality of the Liverpool suspect shows they have learnt their lesson from the Southport attacks, according to the government’s terror watchdog.

He commended Merseyside police for a quick intervention that filled the vacuum and prevented misinformation from gathering pace, adding that forces needed to be consistent in future.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/white-british-male-liverpool-suspect-q7cqbdv3m

https://archive.ph/eMY8z

 

[brewsterbudgen]

2 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

I didn’t miss any part. Not all not all info is in the OP

 

So they got it wrong last time and in future will be far quicker to get all the info out, my question was "An admission that they were wrong?"

 

The police’s rapid announcement of the ethnicity and nationality of the Liverpool suspect shows they have learnt their lesson from the Southport attacks, according to the government’s terror watchdog.

He commended Merseyside police for a quick intervention that filled the vacuum and prevented misinformation from gathering pace, adding that forces needed to be consistent in future.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/white-british-male-liverpool-suspect-q7cqbdv3m

https://archive.ph/eMY8z

 

 

"They have learnt their lesson from the Southport attacks" suggests, yes.  Can't you see that?

 

Keeping silent about the ethnicity of the suspect led to horrific riots last time.  They don't want that again.

[coolcarer]

1 minute ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 

"They have learnt their lesson from the Southport attacks" suggests, yes.  Can't you see that?

 

Keeping silent about the ethnicity of the suspect led to horrific riots last time.  They don't want that again.

Yes I can see that, what on earth makes you think I can’t. They have indeed learnt their lesson and will now hopefully be honest straight away instead of leaving a vacuum that gets filled by speculation that can escalate. It’s about time they learn some lessons about their two tier reporting.

[brewsterbudgen]

4 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Yes I can see that, what on earth makes you think I can’t. They have indeed learnt their lesson and will now hopefully be honest straight away instead of leaving a vacuum that gets filled by speculation that can escalate. It’s about time they learn some lessons about their two tier reporting.

Because you kept asking the question!  

 

Anyway, we're all on the same page now.  Took some time, but we got there. 👍

[coolcarer]

10 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Because you kept asking the question!  

 

Anyway, we're all on the same page now.  Took some time, but we got there. 👍

This was not a question it was a reply to your question

 

16 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Yes I can see that, what on earth makes you think I can’t. They have indeed learnt their lesson and will now hopefully be honest straight away instead of leaving a vacuum that gets filled by speculation that can escalate. It’s about time they learn some lessons about their two tier reporting.

 

[brewsterbudgen]

5 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

This was not a question

 

 

This was: "My question was "An admission that they were wrong?"  The answer was (in case it's still confusing for you), "Yes". 

[coolcarer]

1 minute ago, brewsterbudgen said:

This was: "My question was "An admission that they were wrong?"  The answer was (in case it's still confusing for you), "Yes". 

I didn’t ask that in my last post though. Try to keep up. The upshot here is the police two tier reporting should now finish as they have learnt there lessons. No questions…..

[merck]

Will this now become a matter of course with the authorities quickly releasing the details and ethnicities of assailants in all future terror attacks? Somehow I don't think so.

[brewsterbudgen]

Just now, merck said:

Will this now become a matter of course with the authorities quickly releasing the details and ethnicities of assailants in all future terror attacks? Somehow I don't think so.

It will be interesting to see.  If there's another Islamist terrorist attack, and the authorities know for sure who committed it, will releasing the details quickly mean less or more chance of riots from the far-right?  

[RayC]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I moved to another country to escape the oppression!

 

We clearly have a different definition of what constitutes oppression.

[GanDoonToonPet]

Only time will tell if this is a new police policy due to them having 'learned lessons'. Unfortunately for them, if true, the optics are terrible.

[josephbloggs]

3 hours ago, coolcarer said:

Why did the police immediately reveal that it was a white man yet fail to do so in previous cases as in the OP. An admission that they were wrong?

Because last time people jumped to conclusions / deliberately spread lies and misinformation that the perpetrator was an illegal asylum seeker so knuckle draggers smashed up mosques and set fire to hotels with the aim of burning alive the asylum seekers inside.

Maybe to avoid that again? Whaddya reckon??

[Patong2021]

16 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Why wouldn't they release the info it was a 53yo white man?

They only cover up for non-whites/Muslims/Immigrants.

 

This is just another example of two tier policing!

 

The police are trying not to repeat the same mistakes of previous incidents. A clear and honest declaration reduces the likelihood of false information spreading.  They can't do anything right for you it seems.

 

 

[Patong2021]

2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

It will be interesting to see.  If there's another Islamist terrorist attack, and the authorities know for sure who committed it, will releasing the details quickly mean less or more chance of riots from the far-right?  

 

Less chance. However, there is one caveat, The information release was a reflection of the local police  service. Let's say it happens elsewhere, like Luton, perhaps there will be pressure to slowly release the information.  Let's just hope this isn't put to the test. We can do without more senseless murders.

[proton]

3 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

We can do without more senseless murders.

 

It's what jihad does, 48k attacks since 1979- 2021 with over 210k murdered, not including all of them, such as Thailand

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

[chickenslegs]

3 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I don't think the suspect's religion has been mentioned yet.

If he was a Wesleyan Methodist I will eat my hat.

 

But, seriously, it seems possible that he may have been a normal motorist that got caught up in a crowd of celebration and panicked and put his foot down when some of the crowd banged on his car windows.

 

Let's wait and see what the CCTV reveals.

[hotandsticky]

1 hour ago, chickenslegs said:

If he was a Wesleyan Methodist I will eat my hat.

 

But, seriously, it seems possible that he may have been a normal motorist that got caught up in a crowd of celebration and panicked and put his foot down when some of the crowd banged on his car windows.

 

Let's wait and see what the CCTV reveals.

 

 

Police comments (as reported on BBC) said that drug use was involved.

[hotandsticky]

BBC again:-

 

The driver of a car that ploughed into football fans during Liverpool's Premier League victory parade is being held on suspicion of attempted murder, police have said.

Merseyside Police said a Ford Galaxy avoided a roadblock by tailgating an ambulance responding to reports of a member of the public having suffered a heart attack.

The force said the 53-year-old man, from the West Derby area of the city, was also being detained on suspicion of dangerous driving and driving while unfit through drugs.

A total of 50 people, including children, were treated in hospital following the incident in Water Street, which happened shortly after 18:00 BST on Bank Holiday Monday.

 

[DonniePeverley]

He's a white guy .... so i am guessing the media saying mental health ?

 

The usual lot and racists British guys in Pattaya were desperate for this to be a Muslim. 

 

Sad . 

[coolcarer]

9 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Because last time people jumped to conclusions / deliberately spread lies and misinformation that the perpetrator was an illegal asylum seeker so knuckle draggers smashed up mosques and set fire to hotels with the aim of burning alive the asylum seekers inside.

Maybe to avoid that again? Whaddya reckon??

Have you read the other posts where that's already been covered numerous times?

 

If the police had come out with the truth instead of leaving a vacuum would they still have targeted mosques and set fire to hotels?

 

Whaddya reckon??

[JonnyF]

9 hours ago, GanDoonToonPet said:

Only time will tell if this is a new police policy due to them having 'learned lessons'. Unfortunately for them, if true, the optics are terrible.

 

It's not a new police policy.

 

If they are white, the police state this clearly, including name, age etc.

 

If they are non white, it's simply "a man from Bradford" or "a choir boy from Cardiff" or wherever. 

 

2 tier policing and reporting is alive and well. 

[Yagoda]

 

21 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Yeah. because he's white.😃

This deserves 5 thumbs up.

[JB300]

On 5/27/2025 at 6:35 AM, BritManToo said:

Why wouldn't they release the info it was a 53yo white man?

They only cover up for non-whites/Muslims/Immigrants.

 

This is just another example of two tier policing!

I see why they quickly released the fact that he was White/British (to stop the right wing Nutters from kicking off) but you’re absolutely right & it  is 1 rule for some, 1 rule for others…. Trademark of 2 tier Keir. 
 

 

[BritManToo]

9 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Because last time people jumped to conclusions / deliberately spread lies and misinformation that the perpetrator was an illegal asylum seeker so knuckle draggers smashed up mosques and set fire to hotels with the aim of burning alive the asylum seekers inside.

Maybe to avoid that again? Whaddya reckon??

I thought the rumours were pretty close to the truth.

[JB300]

 

[Hamus Yaigh]

22 hours ago, JonnyF said:

One rule for all.

 

It won't happen though. 

It won't happen because right wing racist agitators are filling SM with hate speech calling for innocent foreigners to be attacked when an incident happens as skin color is established, so the police will have to deal with these scenarios on a case by case basis to maintain social order. Its not two tier police its two tier society (racists vs non racists).

[Patong2021]

6 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

He's a white guy .... so i am guessing the media saying mental health ?

 

The usual lot and racists British guys in Pattaya were desperate for this to be a Muslim. 

 

Sad . 

Media is saying  what the police said, a driving under the influence event. Another dope fiend at the wheel.

[proton]

7 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

He's a white guy .... so i am guessing the media saying mental health ?

 

The usual lot and racists British guys in Pattaya were desperate for this to be a Muslim. 

 

Sad . 

 

95% of the time it is a muslim, so it would be a normal expectation, not a desperate wish

[Photoguy21]

On 5/27/2025 at 6:35 AM, BritManToo said:

Why wouldn't they release the info it was a 53yo white man?

They only cover up for non-whites/Muslims/Immigrants.

 

This is just another example of two tier policing!

He could be of any faith they didn't say. Question though when such marches take place the police close off the roads that are to be used. This road, Water Street, was not, why?