So Long And Thanks For All The Fish - Ukraine bombs Russian Nuclear Bombers

[connda]

3 hours ago, dinsdale said:

It's an attack on Russia's nuclear strategic assets and hence could be viewed by the Kremlin as an attack on Russia's national security. Under international law this is grounds to declare war. As it is Russia has not declared war on Ukraine officially. Will Putin now do this? An all out war with Ukraine will be devastating.  Whatever the case the response by Putin will be big and will happen quickly. 

What the "I Hate Russia" plods don't grasp:
If a semi-trunk of drones had been parked outside of Whitman and Minot AFB and targeted B52-H and B1 nuclear capable bombers, what do you morons believe the result would be?  Are you really that dense?

My guess:
1. Unified screams of "Terrorism" by "Bad Actors" probably "The Russians" and "The Chinese" but maybe "The Iranians" or "North Koreans."
2. US declares DEFCON 1.
3. Declares martial law as the FBI and other agencies go into full panic mode.
4. The "Special People" in government and corporations go underground.
5. Preemptive nuclear strikes on all of the "Bad Actors" and their friends too.

Of course as the nukes go off, the Asean Now faithful would rejoice in delight.  Well, until martial law is declared in Thailand and foreigners start to be rounded up, and the emergency services do what they can to protect the public from the fallout raining in from China and whoever else got nuked.  

Asean Now "I Hate Russia" faithful:   <--- laugh emojis and 👎 <-- thumbs down emojis galore.  

[Cameroni]

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

You can be an smartass, or ignorant! Wat is Russia doing now? We talking about they expand their borders. 

 

Norway and Finland is European countries, and of strategic importance. 

 

Poland, Moldovia, Romania, Bulgaria, and The Baltikum is recognized as European countries.

 

That's really quite an ignorant post, Russia has no interest in invading Poland, Moldovia, Bulgaria, the Baltics, Norway or Finland. They're only fortifying bases near Finland because the latter and Sweden now joined NATO.

 

However, Russia's war against Ukraine is a defensive war, as Russia has to ensure the vast European plains can be defended.

 

There is precisely ZERO risk of Russia attacking all the countries you mentioned because Russia's economy is the size of Spain's, even if it wanted to it couldn't do it.

[ExpatOilWorker]

35 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Not at all.  Nor would I support the USA going in and taking Baja from Mexico.  But the Mexicans in Baja would benefit immensely if we did.

 

This isn't 1939 and a war of annihilation to make room for the Master Race.  Personally, I don't care what flag they salute. 

The war is over.  Has been for over 2 years.  It's time for the dying to stop and the rebuilding to start. Long past time.

 

 

 

Over 3 years actually. 

[Cameroni]

3 minutes ago, bunnydrops said:

They tried once

The Winter War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

 

I don't think any attack on Russia would involve tanks rumbling across the European plains. Modern warfare has almost made the tank obsolete sitting duck.

 

Is that why Ukraine were begging for German Leopard tanks?

[impulse]

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Deflection from Russia's failed and humiliating 3 day war plan to take Kiev where the US also offered him evacuation.

 

"The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride"

 

And if the US warmongers hadn't given him ammo, the war would have been over more than 2 years ago, a million dead humans would still be alive, and the borders would be virtually no different. 

 

And Phuket and Samui wouldn't be chock full of conscription dodgers.

 

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

And if the US warmongers hadn't given him ammo, the war would have been over more than 2 years ago, a million dead humans would still be alive, and the borders would be virtually no different. 

 

And Phuket and Samui wouldn't be chock full of conscription dodgers.

 

Last post you were blaming Boris and now the US even though they offered him a helicopter ride out.

 

You've lost the plot completely, "a million dead humans"..........

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

That's really quite an ignorant post, Russia has no interest in invading Poland, Moldovia, Bulgaria, the Baltics, Norway or Finland. They're only fortifying bases near Finland because the latter and Sweden now joined NATO.

 

However, Russia's war against Ukraine is a defensive war, as Russia has to ensure the vast European plains can be defended.

 

There is precisely ZERO risk of Russia attacking all the countries you mentioned because Russia's economy is the size of Spain's, even if it wanted to it couldn't do it.

So little you know about strategy, control of supply lines, and also less physical boarders to protect. As well ice free water 

 

I know its a dead end debating headliners about what is realistic or not, just take a look at the map for yourself.

 

This is not only done by Russia, but simultaneously happenings in the world. Dont forget that

[jas007]

50 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

No, if WW3 starts, it will definitely be Ukraine, Britain and the US that started it. Thankfully Trump, a man of peace, is in charge.

I think NATO already started it. Now we wait to see what Putin does next. Hopefully, not much. Not because he wouldn't be justified, but because one thing will lead to another until it's too late to stop. 

[impulse]

3 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Over 3 years actually. 

 

My CNN battle map is dated February, 2023.  So I'm just claiming "over 2 years".

 

 

[jvs]

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Try explaining that to the Russian president who has to ensure his nation is safe but is now seeing assets in Siberia, Saratov and near Murmansk being attacked.

Russia is being attacked?

Wow,just imagine that.

Maybe if putin had not invaded the Ukraine this would not have happened.?

Gas sales to Europe,bye bye.

Trade with Europe,bye bye.

If putin is allowed to attack civilians in the Ukraine is the Ukraine not entitled to attack strategic 

targets in russia?

Please do not post any more debunked stories about the poor people of russia,and why they had no choice but to attack the Ukraine.

Russia started all this violence!

 

[connda]

20 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Its amazing how many here are still in the cold war era.

It's reflected in social constructs.  I was watching "The Agency" and the writers of that show had a line where the Russian Federation military was referred to as "The Red Army."  So the cold war is all that some people have stuck in their heads.  
The average plod doesn't follow Geopolitics or foreign affairs and doesn't have a clue.

[Hummin]

25 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Putin is a scumbag terrorist thug. I dont support him, I oppose the so called Ukraine. Folks who support Ukraine are ignorant of history

Sorry, you need to check your facts and forget Carlson intervju.

 

What you saying is pure ignorance. The same can be said for Israel, Usa, and many more countries

[dinsdale]

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Is that why Ukraine were begging for German Leopard tanks?

An interesting comment. Why do they want tanks? What Ukraine really needs is lots of artillery and artillery shells, plenty of anti air defences, loads of long range missiles and drones by the 10's of thousands but above all Ukraine needs boots on the ground and this they will not get from NATO or the EU.

[Yagoda]

Just now, Hummin said:

What you saying is pure ignorance. The same can be said for Israel, Usa, and many more countries

Really? Want to debate the fact that Ukraine isnt a real country? Start a topic then. Make sure you study up.

[ChicagoExpat]

27 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

For the record, I fully, unequivocally and in total moral conviction support Russia in this war, which was deceived, lied to and is merely protecting its national interest.

 

Ukraine cheated, whilst its electricity and gas bills were paid by Russia she jumped into bed with hansum man USA and then did a gangbang with the EU and the USA. 

 

Russia has the full and total right to wage war on Ukraine. I fully spport Russia and Putin in this war against Ukraine.

Yahoo!  Another one!  Stand proud, Putin lovers!  You will surely be rewarded for your loyalty -- your dignity, the ability to look your children in the eye, and your very soul were a small price to pay for your contribution to RUSSKIY MIR.
 

So if Ukraine had merely paid back its electricity and gas bills it wouldn't have been invaded three times?  Who knew?  Incredible all of this killing came down to utility bills.

 

So I'm sure you'll agree that Ukraine has the full and total right to defend itself.  And that means its attacks on legitimate military targets aren't "terrorism", as you claimed.

[Yagoda]

Just now, dinsdale said:

Why do they want tanks?

Tanks are useless except as part of combined arms operations which Ukraine cant do

[Yagoda]

Just now, ChicagoExpat said:

Stand proud, Putin lovers!

You are totally confused. You can beleive that Ukraine is a corrupt stain on the world and an artificial construct used by the neo cons to poke the bear with predictable consequences without denying that Putin is probably the top scumbag in the world right now.

[Yagoda]

9 minutes ago, jvs said:

Maybe if putin had not invaded the Ukraine this would not have happened.?

Maybe if the west hadnt poked him into it.....

[ChicagoExpat]

12 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

And if the US warmongers hadn't given him ammo, the war would have been over more than 2 years ago, a million dead humans would still be alive, and the borders would be virtually no different. 

 

And Phuket and Samui wouldn't be chock full of conscription dodgers.

 

Far, far more people would be alive today if the Soviets hadn't resisted -- tens of millions of them.  Incredible that you'd argue that they should have laid down their arms (and that "US warmongers" shouldn't have supported them so much!).

[ChicagoExpat]

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You are totally confused. You can beleive that Ukraine is a corrupt stain on the world and an artificial construct used by the neo cons to poke the bear with predictable consequences without denying that Putin is probably the top scumbag in the world right now.

OK, I'll take the bait.  Why do you hate Ukraine so much and wish its total destruction?

[Hummin]

18 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Really? Want to debate the fact that Ukraine isnt a real country? Start a topic then. Make sure you study up.

No need to educate you, 

 

Except for their long history, language, culture, they are recognized as an independent country by 183 united nations countries. A bit more than other country you willingly support.

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, ChicagoExpat said:

Why do you hate Ukraine so much and wish its total destruction?

Its Russias problem, not ours.

[BarraMarra]

Am I missing something here? if Ukraine destroys Russian Bombers Putin calls them Terrorist's yet he thinks its ok to lob Missiles into a maternity Hospital? who's the terrorist.

[SamSaraburi]

Putin is not happy at all. There will be serious repercussions.

[jas007]

52 minutes ago, ChicagoExpat said:

But when he gives up: their country is annihilated, the gulags are set up, a puppet is installed, the FSB runs the country, the economy and political system are destroyed, thousands will be killed and the rest "re-educated."

 

When Russia gives up, it goes back to its own internationally recognized borders and the killing stops.

 

See how that works?  The peace of the slaughterhouse isn't much of a peace, for Ukrainians.

 

EDIT:  You can downvote this, but you know it's true.

This reminds me of the propaganda used during the Vietnam era. And before that, during the era of the Domino theory. Nonsense to support the endless war.  

 

Remember Vietnam?  The talking points back then were similar.  If North Vietnam succeeds, Communists would run the country, Vietnam's economic system would be destroyed, thousands would be killed, and the rest "re-educated."  Effective propaganda that worked.  Remember all the people clamoring for a place on the helicopters that were evacuating people from the US Embassy?  

 

And yet what really happened?  Nothing of the sort. Yes, the Communists run the government, but businesses in Vietnam will gladly take your Visa, Mastercard, or American Express. No one was killed, no one was "re-edcated."  Life moved on.  The war is history.  And so the war mongers moved on as well.  Now the Boogeyman is Russia.  Same nonsense, different decade. 

[impulse]

14 minutes ago, connda said:

It's reflected in social constructs.  I was watching "The Agency" and the writers of that show had a line where the Russian Federation military was referred to as "The Red Army."  So the cold war is all that some people have stuck in their heads.  
The average plod doesn't follow Geopolitics or foreign affairs and doesn't have a clue.

 

They still think that Red Dawn is a documentary.

 

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Except for their ling history, language, culture,

Where do they speak "Ukrainian"?

 

Are there ethnic Ukrainians?

 

What are the differences between Ukrainian culture and Russian culture?

 

When did Ukraine become a nation?

 

What are the boundaries of historical Ukraine?

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

they are recognized as an independent country by 183 united nations countries.

The UN is meaningless.

 

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

A bit more than other country you willingly support.

Not that it matters what country is that? Israel? Too cowardly to say that? You have already been outed as a jew hater, why be coy?

 

 

[Yagoda]

4 minutes ago, SamSaraburi said:

Putin is not happy at all. There will be serious repercussions.

That was the point of Zelinskys attack. Absolutely no use on the battlefield, designed to provoke.

 

More war is in Zelinskys interest.

[jvs]

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Where do they speak "Ukrainian"?

 

Are there ethnic Ukrainians?

 

What are the differences between Ukrainian culture and Russian culture?

 

When did Ukraine become a nation?

 

What are the boundaries of historical Ukraine?

The UN is meaningless.

 

Not that it matters what country is that? Israel? Too cowardly to say that? You have already been outed as a jew hater, why be coy?

 

 

Maybe if you don't know any of these things you should do some reading?

[Hummin]

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Where do they speak "Ukrainian"?

 

Are there ethnic Ukrainians?

 

What are the differences between Ukrainian culture and Russian culture?

 

When did Ukraine become a nation?

 

What are the boundaries of historical Ukraine?

The UN is meaningless.

 

Not that it matters what country is that? Israel? Too cowardly to say that? You have already been outed as a jew hater, why be coy?

 

 

Oh my, 

 

I call it a day, tired of endless bickering posts without common sense, and with people with narrow views. 

 

Singular brain functions and no logical sense