Recent trip to UK with Qatar air- A very sad, heartbreaking visit.

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, Geoff914 said:

If that is the attitude then us British that still live here don't want you here. For Gods sake nurses are paid so badly they have to go to food banks. Your son doesn't know what he is talking about. May be a few do but "many" is simply rubbish.

 

I doubt very much it's nurses selling welfare food to buy drugs. Nurses would just steal the drugs from work and sell the welfare food to buy beer. 

[Jumbo1968]

On 6/5/2025 at 12:49 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    That isnt true . 

It is, 5 years deals for private landlords,

https://www.landlordtoday.co.uk/breaking-news/2025/04/government-to-offer-landlords-five-year-deals-to-house-migrants/

 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, Jumbo1968 said:

It is, 5 years deals for private landlords,

https://www.landlordtoday.co.uk/breaking-news/2025/04/government-to-offer-landlords-five-year-deals-to-house-migrants/

 

 

   That link doesn't back up the claim . 

The claim made was that the Government was offering 50 Quid a night to HMO owners, 

   That is the bit I was questioning .

The money being offered was the bit I claimed wasn't true .

HMO owners are not being offered 50 Quid a night to house immigrants 

[Geoff914]

30 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I doubt very much it's nurses selling welfare food to buy drugs. Nurses would just steal the drugs from work and sell the welfare food to buy beer. 

Who said nurses were selling food bank food to buy drugs?

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, Geoff914 said:

Who said nurses were selling food bank food to buy drugs?

Not me

[Geoff914]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Not me

Then why suggest it?

 

[Clarkey611]

Has anyone else been stopped at Heathrow Terminal 2 by Detective Constable Inspector Peter Pisspot of the <deleted> Valley Border Control and accused of being a Paedophile? Too many immigration stamps from Thailand and Vietnam in the passport (plus a work permit for Thailand) so that both the mobile and PC were scanned for pornography. The whole process took nearly two hours and not even a sorry when the ordeal was completed. It seemed that they were only checking men of the Whitey McWhiteface variety.

[Geoff914]

2 minutes ago, Clarkey611 said:

 both the mobile and PC were scanned for pornography. 

Pornography isn't illegal. Only images of children is. Plenty of the police force view pornography, legally.

[johng]

2 minutes ago, Clarkey611 said:

Has anyone else been stopped at Heathrow Terminal 2 by Detective Constable Inspector Peter Pisspot of the <deleted> Valley Border Control and accused of being a Paedophile?

Nope never..well not yet !

I can imagine it was not a nice experience...

Just remember though

“if you have nothing to hide“

then you won't mind any

Tom (NSA)

Dick (Mossad) or

Harry (Mi5)

riffling through your underwear draws forcing the revelation of passwords and collection of DNA

for future investigation...for your own safety of course. !🤮

 

[Tiger1980]

On 6/5/2025 at 1:17 PM, JoseThailand said:

 

They are democratically elected. That's the people's choice.

Approximately 25% of the eligible electorate voted for Labour. Now 11 months on they’d be lucky to receive 10%

[Tiger1980]

On 6/5/2025 at 4:01 PM, Scouse123 said:

 

The population of New Zealand is 5.2 million, population of Australia is 26 million, Canada 40 million. Then look at the size versus population of these countries, compared to the UK.

 

UK population officially is 68 million. 17% born outside, roughly 10 million.

 

No comparison. You are comparing apples to oranges.

Plus according to TV reports today, there are between 1,500,000 and 2,000,000

illegal undocumented migrants in the UK.  Strangely the authorities are reluctant to publish this fact.

[stuandjulie]

11 hours ago, Formaleins said:

You can see just why the UK and the West is in such a mess simply by reading the "usual" responses from the "Usual" suspects on this forum - They are sitting there like either the proverbially frog in the pan of cold water, with the gas on and heating up, getting a bit warmer eh? They will still be sitting their spouting their usual woke anti racists "Antifa Crap" - Then there is the other group, the Nero brigade, gladly fiddling away while they watch their Rome burn.

A perfectly well written well observed honest post just letting us know how it is in our once proud homes, as we see them turned into the third world rape havens for muslims. Get a life, take a look around you, are you blind?

You mean the house you were so proud of you left for Thailand ?

[Scouse123]

4 hours ago, BusyB said:

 

Agreed. One of my favorites. With the Nana Plaza excitement at one end and Benjakiti Park down at the other.

 

Would you mind telling me how you got from there to the airport? Taxi? Hotel taxi? Meter or fixed fare? Price? Novotel shuttle to Nana and BTS/ARL? 

 

I'm looking at the same trip in a week or so and although familiar have never gone Novotel - Swampy.

 

Cheers.

 

 

A driver stopped me in the car park by the Nana hotel as I was passing a small food stall and offered me a flat fee for the airport at 500 baht and would pick me up at the Novotel, which he did.

 

For a taxi, just walk into the Nana hotel car park, they always loiter there looking for fares. I booked him for the following day.

[stuandjulie]

2 hours ago, Tiger1980 said:

Approximately 25% of the eligible electorate voted for Labour. Now 11 months on they’d be lucky to receive 10%

Well as they won the last by election with way more than 11% of the vote makes that comment bs.

[Scouse123]

4 hours ago, Geoff914 said:

If that is the attitude then us British that still live here don't want you here. For Gods sake nurses are paid so badly they have to go to food banks. Your son doesn't know what he is talking about. May be a few do but "many" is simply rubbish.

 

 

It's not up to you if you want me there or not. I am a working British taxpayer, so it's a daft comment, and you say it as if you have the power to prevent me from coming and reporting what I see on a message board.

 

What a silly thing to say.

 

The ones I saw whilst in the car with my son didn't look like nurses to me!!

[Scouse123]

8 minutes ago, stuandjulie said:

Well as they won the last by election with way more than 11% of the vote makes that comment bs.

 

8 minutes ago, stuandjulie said:

Well as they won the last by election with way more than 11% of the vote makes that comment bs.

 

No BS about it, if there was an election tomorrow, they would get annihilated. 

[Celsius]

3 hours ago, Clarkey611 said:

Has anyone else been stopped at Heathrow Terminal 2 by Detective Constable Inspector Peter Pisspot of the <deleted> Valley Border Control and accused of being a Paedophile? Too many immigration stamps from Thailand and Vietnam in the passport (plus a work permit for Thailand) so that both the mobile and PC were scanned for pornography. The whole process took nearly two hours and not even a sorry when the ordeal was completed. It seemed that they were only checking men of the Whitey McWhiteface variety.

 

7 years ago while flying Filipinz airlines I was the only white mug that got searched arriving to Toronto. After he went through my suitcase and found nothing I asked why was me the only white mug being searched.

 

He said that is how we do things in Canada.

[Magictoad]

On 6/5/2025 at 1:46 AM, Kinnock said:

You suggested the rest of us should post links to prove we're right - you figure it out.

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2063980/british-cities-risk-going-feral-expert-warns-looming-mass-disorder?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawKtclpleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmmTtLYOgT339m1qg2OCNwshIOvsbYI-ek9vC4-xXFu6x1b_MoAaBNMX2Ggf_aem_pyRloOFRHgZ1wRaXkeyP2g#Echobox=1748997611

 

How about posting a link explaining how illegal immigration, rising prices, failing UK industry and inner city wastelands are a benefit?

The Daily Express! Oh dear me. Is that still going? And does anyone really read it? It's simply not a reputable organ!

[Scouse123]

3 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said:

It is, 5 years deals for private landlords,

https://www.landlordtoday.co.uk/breaking-news/2025/04/government-to-offer-landlords-five-year-deals-to-house-migrants/

 

 

They are according to my sources.

 

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That link doesn't back up the claim . 

The claim made was that the Government was offering 50 Quid a night to HMO owners, 

   That is the bit I was questioning .

The money being offered was the bit I claimed wasn't true .

HMO owners are not being offered 50 Quid a night to house immigrants 

 

However, you are disputing a friend of mine's comments, who works for a primary HMO owner, who told him that.

 

He had nothing to gain by making it up, and suggested I look into it.

 

I have since heard from others that they leave the premises in a disgusting state.

 

Although the government offers to bring the places back up to standard, they don't use quality materials on a like-for-like basis, opting instead for very cheap alternatives.

 

When I disagree with the government's policy on housing these migrants, my conscience would not allow me to go down that route to make money.

[Scouse123]

13 minutes ago, Celsius said:

 

7 years ago while flying Filipinz airlines I was the only white mug that got searched arriving to Toronto. After he went through my suitcase and found nothing I asked why was me the only white mug being searched.

 

He saod that is how we do things in Canada.

 

In my view, that was simply a catch-all answer to your question, because they ' profiled ' you without justification.

[Scouse123]

11 minutes ago, Magictoad said:

The Daily Express! Oh dear me. Is that still going? And does anyone really read it? It's simply not a reputable organ!

 

 

So now the respondent can't win, you ask for links, he provides them, and then you want to trash the source of the link, which is a Daily newspaper in the UK.

 

Here is an independent report on the Daily Express that finds them no better or worse than any other source.

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-express/

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

 

They are according to my sources.

However, you are disputing a friend of mine's comments, who works for a primary HMO owner, who told him that.

 

 

   You are probably getting two different things mixed up .

Hotel rooms costing 50 Quid a night and five year contracts to HMO owners .

  Seems like you stuck those two together and arrived at five year contracts to HMO's at  50 Quid a night 

[Scouse123]

12 hours ago, Formaleins said:

You can see just why the UK and the West is in such a mess simply by reading the "usual" responses from the "Usual" suspects on this forum - They are sitting there like either the proverbially frog in the pan of cold water, with the gas on and heating up, getting a bit warmer eh? They will still be sitting their spouting their usual woke anti racists "Antifa Crap" - Then there is the other group, the Nero brigade, gladly fiddling away while they watch their Rome burn.

A perfectly well written well observed honest post just letting us know how it is in our once proud homes, as we see them turned into the third world rape havens for muslims. Get a life, take a look around you, are you blind?

 

 

I completely agree,

 

The way some posters here react, you’d think I was celebrating the decline of specific areas, which I most certainly am not—my own family still lives there.

 

Many of those commenting either haven’t been to the North of England or haven’t visited the UK in recent years.

 

In my post, I mentioned that visiting North Yorkshire felt like stepping into a different world—it was refreshing and an absolute pleasure.

 

Unfortunately, many towns and cities in the North have seen significant decline. Inner urban areas are struggling with underinvestment, high street decay, and a lack of meaningful opportunities.

 

It's disheartening to see so many once-thriving communities now facing social and economic hardship.

 

Those from more affluent parts of the South may not have witnessed these changes firsthand. That doesn't make these observations any less real.

 

There is growing frustration among working taxpayers nationwide. When people feel ignored or overwhelmed by rapid change without adequate support or consultation, unrest becomes a very real risk.

 

So while not everyone commenting may be familiar with these areas or experiences, that doesn’t make the concerns any less valid.

[Scouse123]

19 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You are probably getting two different things mixed up .

Hotel rooms costing 50 Quid a night and five year contracts to HMO owners .

  Seems like you stuck those two together and arrived at five year contracts to HMO's at  50 Quid a night 

 

No,

 

The HMO owner says that is what he has been offered, and he owns HMOs, not hotels.

 

He said the councils were in dire straits as they had run out of hotels to put them.

[Nick Carter icp]

10 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

 

No,

 

The HMO owner says that is what he has been offered, and he owns HMOs, not hotels.

 

He said the councils were in dire straits as they had run out of hotels to put them.

 

   You cannot provide anything to back that claim up. Just hearsay

[Geoff914]

42 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

 

It's not up to you if you want me there or not. I am a working British taxpayer, so it's a daft comment, and you say it as if you have the power to prevent me from coming and reporting what I see on a message board.

 

What a silly thing to say.

 

The ones I saw whilst in the car with my son didn't look like nurses to me!!

You may be a British tax payer but you live in Thailand on a retirement visa so don't actually live in the UK. Sounds like you son took you on a tour of the worst parts of which ever town he lives in. I actually live here and as bad as it is how you describe it is not typical. You said "I drove past and saw queues outside food banks. I was told by my son, that many were not desperate, they were begging food then selling it cheap to buy drugs," And how does you son know. Sounds like a highly opinionated person to me. There are many working people who have to rely on food banks to live. I have never heard of people scrounging stuff from food banks to sell. Why would anybody buy food from a drug user when you could just go to the food bank and buy the food there. Yes nurses and other low paid rely on food banks. That is is what 15 years of Tory rule has done to this country. And before you say no I do not support Labour. No doubt I could be taken on a tour of the Thai slums, or any other country, then formulate an opinion of the country based on that. Attacking people unfortunate enough to need to use food banks and describing them as drug users is a pretty low blow. Plenty of drug users are well off and the filthy rich. Why attack less well off people as drug users. 

[Celsius]

25 minutes ago, Geoff914 said:

 You said "I drove past and saw queues outside food banks. I was told by my son, that many were not desperate, they were begging food then selling it cheap to buy drugs," And how does you son know. Sounds like a highly opinionated person to me. There are many working people who have to rely on food banks to live. I have never heard of people scrounging stuff from food banks to sell. Why would anybody buy food from a drug user when you could just go to the food bank and buy the food there. 

 

Actually the same thing is happening in canada. I arrived 2 months ago back to my Toronto condo and what he's describing is word for word situation here.

 

It turns out as per latest budget that it costs 135,000 thousand dollars to support a single homeless person. For that kind of money no one should be homeless.

 

It is obvious that "homelessness" has become a nice business and is benefiting someone.  This has nothing to do with bad area or good area as the next homeless "shelter" could be moved next to you then watch yourself change your tune overnight.

 

BTW the food and even drugs they get for free is absolutely being resold. The funniest thing the Starbucks next to the park where the food was being donated near where I live was full of those homeless buying lattes. 

 

 

[Scouse123]

1 hour ago, Geoff914 said:

You may be a British tax payer but you live in Thailand on a retirement visa so don't actually live in the UK. Sounds like you son took you on a tour of the worst parts of which ever town he lives in. I actually live here and as bad as it is how you describe it is not typical. You said "I drove past and saw queues outside food banks. I was told by my son, that many were not desperate, they were begging food then selling it cheap to buy drugs," And how does you son know. Sounds like a highly opinionated person to me. There are many working people who have to rely on food banks to live. I have never heard of people scrounging stuff from food banks to sell. Why would anybody buy food from a drug user when you could just go to the food bank and buy the food there. Yes nurses and other low paid rely on food banks. That is is what 15 years of Tory rule has done to this country. And before you say no I do not support Labour. No doubt I could be taken on a tour of the Thai slums, or any other country, then formulate an opinion of the country based on that. Attacking people unfortunate enough to need to use food banks and describing them as drug users is a pretty low blow. Plenty of drug users are well off and the filthy rich. Why attack less well off people as drug users. 

 

Let me set the record straight.

 

Firstly, being a British taxpayer is not dependent on my current place of residence. I’ve contributed to the UK system for many years, and I still do. That gives me every right to voice my opinions about the state of the country — especially when they come from direct observation and personal experience.

 

Secondly, my comments were not an “attack” on people who use food banks. I described what I saw with my own eyes and what was shared with me by someone who lives and works in the UK.

 

If you disagree with that perspective, you are entitled to your view — but it doesn’t make mine invalid or dishonest.

 

To suggest I was broadly labelling all food bank users as drug users is disingenuous. I never said or implied that. I acknowledged a very real concern — that in some cases, people may exploit a system meant to help the vulnerable.

 

That doesn’t deny the existence of real, hardworking people who rely on food banks. In fact, I find it tragic that this is necessary in a developed country like the UK.

 

Also, drawing comparisons with slums in Thailand to somehow invalidate my observations is both irrelevant and a deflection.

 

Every country has its challenges — but I was commenting on the decline in living standards in the UK, which is a legitimate concern shared by many, including those who still live there.

 

You’re free to disagree with my views.

 

But misrepresenting them to make a point weakens your own argument.

 

If we want to have a genuine discussion about the problems the UK faces, let’s do so honestly, without twisting words or making personal attacks, especially in regard to my son.

[Scouse123]

1 hour ago, Celsius said:

 

Actually the same thing is happening in canada. I arrived 2 months ago back to my Toronto condo and what he's describing is word for word situation here.

 

It turns out as per latest budget that it costs 135,000 thousand dollars to support a single homeless person. For that kind of money no one should be homeless.

 

It is obvious that "homelessness" has become a nice business and is benefiting someone.  This has nothing to do with bad area or good area as the next homeless "shelter" could be moved next to you then watch yourself change your tune overnight.

 

BTW the food and even drugs they get for free is absolutely being resold. The funniest thing the Starbucks next to the park where the food was being donated near where I live was full of those homeless buying lattes. 

 

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

But on this board we always get the deniers and naysayers, the Labour lefties and the woke brigade, even though many haven't been to the UK in years and some, probably never been North of Watford Gap.

 

However, they feel obliged to attack, find fault and criticise a person posts who has recently been there and seen it first hand.

 

They are offering nothing in the way of their experiences of the UK currently-  but feel their opinions are valid sat behind a computer screen in Thailand. 

 

Then at every twist and turn, they blame Tory rule over the last 15 years, when it was, in fact, Labour under Tony Blair that allowed uncontrolled immigration.

 

Canada seems to be going through a similar shift, with rising pressures around migration and homelessness.

 

In regard to the UK, it's frustrating to see some people constantly deny the obvious issues we’re facing. Instead of holding the current government accountable, they deflect and keep blaming the previous one.

 

The reality is, things are a mess right now – and pretending otherwise helps no one.

 

We need real solutions, not just political blame games."

 

Full list of shameful broken promises from a man elected on a pack of lies:-

 

 

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/starmers-broken-promises/

 

[theoldgit]

On 6/5/2025 at 10:11 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Can you provide something to back it up with ?

A link or your own personal offer or something ?

Serco are certainly seeking landlords with properties to rent, though l don’t know what the contractual rates are, they will normally be “commercial in confidence” https://www.serco.com/uk/sites/serco-aasc/landlords

 

I’m currently in the UK for an extended period, and here on the South Coast there are certainly beggars in abundance, some begging quite aggressively.

 

There are certainly some shops and services that will only accept contactless payments but there are others where “cash is king”.

 

The NHS is of course pretty good if you can get through to a surgery to make an appointment, it took me 35 attempts to reach the queue to request an appointment last week, though once in the queue l only waited 20 mins to get an appointment and was seen the same day. I was previously referred to a consultant by the GP and as it’s an urgent referral I’ve been informed that it’s only a 48 week wait.