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4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Again, that's true, but within the relationship you can still have a certain amount of power. The woman will always try to challenge it, by making demands which change the nature of the relationship, so you nee to stand up to her and make clear it's not acceptable. If you just let it happen, then indeed, in the long term you will have no power.

I completely disagree, there's no point in introducing trouble and strife into a perfectly happy and working LTR, agree with everything they want, but never actually get around to doing it, is a far more peaceful approach.

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Just now, FritsSikkink said:

No, they aren't. Sad that you haven't met one yet.

 

I find it strange that you start a thread on "why are people dissing others here" and then a bit later start one dissing your own wife.

She's not a forum member.

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3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I completely disagree, there's no point in introducing trouble and strife into a perfectly happy and working LTR, agree with everything they want, but never actually get around to doing it, is a far more peaceful approach.

 

But it's not perfectly happy and working. She just asked you to sign a document that you get no money. She's trying it on.

 

If you don't stand up to this, she will make even bigger and more outrageous demands, cause she'll think she got away with it. It's a slippery slope.

 

They only thing you can do is nip it in the bud. If you don't it will mushroom and bite you in the a$$ much worse down the line. 

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2 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

yeah but that's what rational people think and therein lies the problem.

How can you call that rational people? They are the one who creates a non-existing problem. It´s simple mathematics. If nobody buys a piece of land for the price asked, then they´ve set a too high value. My understanding of being rational is ay out of that area. 

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3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Again, that's true, but within the relationship you can still have a certain amount of power. The woman will always try to challenge it, by making demands which change the nature of the relationship, so you need to stand up to her and make clear it's not acceptable. If you just let it happen, then indeed, in the long term you will have no power.

 

I mean think about it, if she's in the relationship because she wants something from you, that alone gives you power.

 

"give em an inch..... and they think they're a ruler "

 

in truth... i try to respect,  and want (demand)  the same in return.   Choosing a pleasant and agreeable mate is a must .   If red flags appear.. it almost never gets better

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Just now, rumak said:

 Choosing a pleasant and agreeable mate is a must .   If red flags appear.. it almost never gets better

 

Are you saying in 20 years she never once tried to change the terms of the relationship in her favour unilaterally? No demands that made you uncomfortable whatsoever?

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3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

But it's not perfectly happy and working. She just asked you to sign a document that you get no money. She's trying it on.

 

If you don't stand up to this, she will make even bigger and more outrageous demands, cause she'll think she got away with it. It's a slippery slope.

 

They only thing you can do is nip it in the bud. If you don't it will mushroom and bite you in the a$$ much worse down the line. 

I'm 70, don't think that line has much further to go .............

I'm happy enough just to kick the ball down the road a bit more.

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Just now, BritManToo said:

I'm 70, don't think that line has much further to go .............

 

That makes it even more pernicious she's trying to make sure you get no money. You could need money for medical bills. And what does she do? Try to make sure you get no money. Women are unbelievable. After all you did for her.

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Just now, Cameroni said:

 

That makes it even more pernicious she's trying to make sure you get no money. You could need money for medical bills. And what does she do? Try to make sure you get no money. Women are unbelievable. After all you did for her.

Briffault's law again,

Past advantage gives you no future credit.

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7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

That makes it even more pernicious she's trying to make sure you get no money. You could need money for medical bills. And what does she do? Try to make sure you get no money. Women are unbelievable. After all you did for her.

I recently just stopped fighting it, i just let her win now and see if anything good happens

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13 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Are you saying in 20 years she never once tried to change the terms of the relationship in her favour unilaterally? No demands that made you uncomfortable whatsoever?

 

my only "marriage"  was 38 years ago and lasted for 16 years.  No demands.

(why i chose to end it was simply... time to move on for me. )

For ten years after that I lived my second bachelorhood , had good times and some of the usual disappointments when looking for a live-in.   Being as i was nearing 60, and had lived here a long time ,  it was almost impossible to find a decent looking girl without issues .  Did have some that wanted me, in the 25 to 35 range..but ( i was very particular , maybe as you are) .  

One eventually came up that was a keeper.  No changes , no faces, no pouting, no fights, no demands, etc etc.     Is she Jane Fonda at 25 years old ??   not quite 😎

But those 25 year olds will not display what they are really like until time goes by.

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That makes it even more pernicious she's trying to make sure you get no money. You could need money for medical bills. And what does she do? Try to make sure you get no money. Women are unbelievable. After all you did for her.

 

He has his own money. He doesn't need hers.

Call it the BritManToo Project if you like. He decided to take her on, help with her education, start a family and to maintain them. 

Nothing wrong with that. Better than whiling his life away, drinking on Soi Bua Khao.

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12 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

How can you call that rational people? They are the one who creates a non-existing problem. It´s simple mathematics. If nobody buys a piece of land for the price asked, then they´ve set a too high value. My understanding of being rational is ay out of that area. 

 

No, I understand you, THEY don't. I've told them to reduce the price and get it sold but they can't agree on the terms. The dad is 82, doesn't need 4 Rai and could use the cash. The price they set land for in CM (Mae Jo is way north outside the city even)  makes it only viable for a developer who is going to build a housing project. 25MB would be the starting point then they need to invest 10s of millions more for houses. That's a tiny market they now have.

 

It's never going to sell and the dad is going to die eventually then my wife and sister will have to fight it out in court or something or they'll probably sit on it until they both die too and they have no children. It's a disastrous financial error if you ask me. Could be used for some productive investments instead.

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14 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

That makes it even more pernicious she's trying to make sure you get no money. You could need money for medical bills. And what does she do? Try to make sure you get no money. Women are unbelievable. After all you did for her.

 

Probably her idea all along was to get a piece of his pension and housing then help take care of him as he's much older than she is I believe. It makes sense from her original goals to not share her money with him. That was never the plan I'm sure. I think it's understandable under the terms of that particular relationship. It's harsh but that's the reality is it not?

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25 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I completely disagree, there's no point in introducing trouble and strife into a perfectly happy and working LTR, agree with everything they want, but never actually get around to doing it, is a far more peaceful approach.

 

Do you need the money? if not then probably carry on with your original arrangement and let her do whatever. It's certainly not nice though so that's got to hurt a little.

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Briffault's law again,

Past advantage gives you no future credit.

 

Not advanced enough in your thinking. 

I wait for the women to choose me through observation of my behaviour and then decide for myself, through further observation.  You chose the women due to your own needs and offer them inducements. They decide to take the inducements and to see how it goes.

I don't get involved in any transactional arrangements. That's a slippery slope in itself.

If your MO is to capture women through the mode of financial inducements, it's no surprise that you might imagine that is the only possibility.

If you believe it is, then who are you to argue with yourself? 🙂 

 

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1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Thai marriage law states anything brought to the marriage initially by either party remains with that person in the event of marriage breakdown.

 

To me, that's much fairer than Western family law. I would still be a millionaire under Thai law.

 

You are confusing said assets with a monthly allowance, which is a different and negotiated situation.

I'm not confusing anything, she expects to get money from him monthly plus all the rest but keep any money she brings in, not unusual to think that

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4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

So my wife thinks she's coming into a few million Baht (almost no chance).

And wanted me to sign a document stating any money she gets is hers, and I have no claim on it.

I say, "sure, no problem", and she brings over a notepad for me to write out the agreement.

I write "any money you get and half belongs to me" she tells me to sign and date it to make it official.

She asks me to read out what I wrote, and I read out "any money you get belongs entirely to you"

She walks off happily clutching the document to keep somewhere safe .........

 

You can't fix stupid!

 

You sure know how to pick em' there ace!

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3 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

You sure can't.  And your the guy who always brags about what a great, perfect life you have. 555

 No OP shared his near death experience here, i disagree

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1 minute ago, StandardIssue said:

You sure know how to pick em' there ace!

I always pick women in their early 30s weighing less than 50kg and female from birth.

It's not rocket science!

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48 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

That can happen when you marry a bar girl, who is in it for the money to start with.

Yes plus other girls in Thailand where there's an age gap and money motive, funny when guys think they have a genuine relationship 

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2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I always pick women in their early 30s weighing less than 50kg and female from birth.

It's not rocket science!

"Women", hmmm, so you've had a few failures here, and are you sure they didn't pick you.....😜

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21 minutes ago, JakeC said:

 

He has his own money. He doesn't need hers.

Call it the BritManToo Project if you like. He decided to take her on, help with her education, start a family and to maintain them. 

Nothing wrong with that. Better than whiling his life away, drinking on Soi Bua Khao.

I'm not sure a fake marriage and relationship which is often the norm here is all it's cracked up to be

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1 minute ago, transam said:

"Women", hmmm, so you've had a few failures here, and are you sure they didn't pick you.....😜

No failures, I had sex with each and every one I picked.

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30 minutes ago, rumak said:

.  Did have some that wanted me, in the 25 to 35 range..but ( i was very particular , maybe as you are) .  

One eventually came up that was a keeper.  No changes , no faces, no pouting, no fights, no demands, etc etc.     Is she Jane Fonda at 25 years old ??   not quite 😎

But those 25 year olds will not display what they are really like until time goes by.

 

Yes, very particular. When you add the physical and character requirements, 90% aren't even candidates. Sad but true.

 

It's been two years with this 25 year old. And even if she looks better than Ms World, there are thing she did, that were so diabolical. You would never expect it.

 

I would not be surprised if she'd put a paper like that in front of me.

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I'm not sure a fake marriage and relationship which is often the norm here is all it's cracked up to be

 

It doesn't have to be a bed of roses. A man has to navigate through it all and keep the thing upright. He's doing his job. 

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23 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

Probably her idea all along was to get a piece of his pension and housing then help take care of him as he's much older than she is I believe. It makes sense from her original goals to not share her money with him. That was never the plan I'm sure. I think it's understandable under the terms of that particular relationship. It's harsh but that's the reality is it not?

 

Women are in it for the material benefits, there is absolutely no doubt about it. How mercenary they really are, I suppose it varies from girl to girl. But only the degree of intensity.

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