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Australia’s Wake-Up Call: A Landmark Case Challenges the Transgender Medical Orthodoxy


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Puberty blockers are reversible when discontinued. 

 

I question the authenticity of the assertion that the hospital had treated a 3 year old with gender affirming care. 

 

Nearly 1 in 50 live births (that's 2%, which represents approximately 7 million people in the US and over 550k in Aus) exhibit phenotypic or biological inter-gender characteristics where the external genitalia of the baby are not sufficiently developed to determine one gender over another, do not match DNA (ie genetically XX yet born with male genitalia) , or vis versa, or display partial development of both genders (at birth). 

 

In such cases doctors and hospitals make a determination, not always in consultation with the parents) as to one gender and proceed with surgically modification to support their determination. 

 

Suicide rates among those with gender dysphoria are astronomical, while gender affirming care is only prescribed with extensive and protracted consultation with parents, doctors, psychologist and the child, not as it is sometimes depicted as some willy-nilly caprice of childhood. 

 

Where such care is not transitory and reversible, as with puberty blockers, even further screening is required and mandatory by law, by which point the then child has attained majority as an adult and legally capable of electing surgery, albeit with further consultation and professional screening. 

 

Where a 16 year old would receive a surgical intervention it would be HIGHLY unusual, would be approved my medical and mental health professionals among others and would in all likelihood be the result of a botched earlier gender determination and/or multiple surgeries post-birth where the gender was in fact indeterminate for the above reasons. 

 

Gender determination is not always as simple minded as penis = male, vagina = female, and to dummy this sometimes complex determination and issues down to knee-jerk political talking point is not only asinine it's abusive and interferes with the doctor-patient-parent relationship through intrusive, policized government intervention 

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I'm okay with this as long as whatever is used to determine the gender of the newborn is not just a glance down at the genitals. It should also include testing chromosomes and hormones, the latter of which don't really come into complete play until puberty. 

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14 hours ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

I'm not going to go looking for the articles and evidence to claim that this statement is false, but it is absolutely false.  You need to do more research before making such a claim.

You are correct, if taken long term....Some sources, like the Cass Review, argue that long-term effects (e.g., on fertility or bone health) may not be fully reversible in all cases, particularly with prolonged use.

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18 hours ago, Cat Boy said:

Puberty blockers are reversible when discontinued. 

 

I question the authenticity of the assertion that the hospital had treated a 3 year old with gender affirming care. 

 

Nearly 1 in 50 live births (that's 2%, which represents approximately 7 million people in the US and over 550k in Aus) exhibit phenotypic or biological inter-gender characteristics where the external genitalia of the baby are not sufficiently developed to determine one gender over another, do not match DNA (ie genetically XX yet born with male genitalia) , or vis versa, or display partial development of both genders (at birth). 

 

In such cases doctors and hospitals make a determination, not always in consultation with the parents) as to one gender and proceed with surgically modification to support their determination. 

 

Suicide rates among those with gender dysphoria are astronomical, while gender affirming care is only prescribed with extensive and protracted consultation with parents, doctors, psychologist and the child, not as it is sometimes depicted as some willy-nilly caprice of childhood. 

 

Where such care is not transitory and reversible, as with puberty blockers, even further screening is required and mandatory by law, by which point the then child has attained majority as an adult and legally capable of electing surgery, albeit with further consultation and professional screening. 

 

Where a 16 year old would receive a surgical intervention it would be HIGHLY unusual, would be approved my medical and mental health professionals among others and would in all likelihood be the result of a botched earlier gender determination and/or multiple surgeries post-birth where the gender was in fact indeterminate for the above reasons. 

 

Gender determination is not always as simple minded as penis = male, vagina = female, and to dummy this sometimes complex determination and issues down to knee-jerk political talking point is not only asinine it's abusive and interferes with the doctor-patient-parent relationship through intrusive, policized government intervention 

You dont live in reality

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Transgenderism is a mental illness and should be treated as such, especially in children who are susceptible to the grooming efforts of the LGBTQRDFTERW +- movement.

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18 hours ago, Cat Boy said:

Suicide rates among those with gender dysphoria are astronomical,

 

Thats because gender dysphoria is a mental illness.   You might as well say the suicide rates amongst people with mental illness is astronomical.   You don't treat people with depression by affirming their depression and giving them drugs to ensure they are depressed.  

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4 hours ago, Yagoda said:

You dont live in reality

Beat me too it. 

 

Your fat-free "reality" is without primary evidence from the stakeholders, doctors, psychologist parents and child patient, and lacks either statistical sources. 

 

Your insular bubble is entirely contrived by political lockstrep indoctrination rather than lived reality. 

 

Why do you care how others either choose or feel compelled to live their lives? 

 

What interest is yours to intrude, intervene in the lives of others where it does not intrude or intervene on your own, and further to promote and the enactment of promulgate laws against the freedom of others you don't even know to live in freedom? 

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24 minutes ago, Cat Boy said:

Why do you care how others either choose or feel compelled to live their lives? 

 

I care about the mentally ill. I dont want to see children destroyed by agenda driven grooming. Thats evidently where we differ.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I care about the mentally ill. I dont want to see children destroyed by agenda driven grooming. Thats evidently where we differ.

 

 

Then we'll agree to disagree. 

 

My position is to not stand in judgment to intervene in the lives of others either at general population societal level, nor in individual cases where the medical and psychology professionals, the parents and the affected individual, even a child, who has rights, all of whom are far better equipped, educated, trustworthy and informed than I an outsider. 

 

Your perspective, your "reality" (your word, not mine) towards state legal and societal intervention, intrusion between doctor/patient/parent/mental health professional with judgement.... differs

 

We'll agree to disagree 

 

We as individuals have a right to our own opinions 

 

But not our own facts

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9 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Fact: Transgenderism is a mental illness.

That's an option your opinion, rather than a evidence-based "fact" which can be confirmed by clinical studies.

 

Secondly, "-isms" are belief systems, not facts, so-called "transgenderism" is NOT a medical term, and is not used as a diagnostic term by medical and psychological Healthcare professionals. It is a political catchphrase of no legitimacy. 

 

If you had said, for example, :

 

"Gender dismorphia is a mental condition" 

 

... that could be verified as fact by clinical medical and psychological professionals. 

 

Both mental conditions and mental illness can, and SHOULD, be treated. 

 

Denial isn't treatment. 

 

The suicide rate among adolescents with gender dismorphia, male and female, is ten times the rate of those without that condition. 

 

That's a verifiable fact. 

 

According to the National Institutes of Health between 26 and 31% of those with gender dismorphia have attempted suicide and overall 1.3-2.6% of adolescent 13 year olds consider themselves trans or intergender to some extent. 

 

Those are facts. 

 

You're entitled to your opinion, but to confuse your opinion with verifiable fact, is self-effacing delusion 

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6903884/

 

 

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