Crime Husband Seeks Justice After Wife Is Killed in Fatal Porsche Hit-and-Run

[richard_smith237]

27 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

50 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Did you have to file or push for any charges to be filed ?

He wasn't a hi-so - he was just a uni professor.

I did nothing really, didn't even see the police the first month, my misses only went to the police station to file the police report needed for my government minimum insurance to get my hospital bill paid. The police took the report and ran with it.

 

Good on them....        Your experience also show's, contrary to popular myth, that the farang isn't always in the wrong (far from it in my experience). 

 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

7 minutes ago, geisha said:

Only the National newspapers can help here. Front page Headlines and popular news channels. Do they dare though ?

 

Hopefully...   but even then the attention diminishes quite quickly...      This is something that needs persistence as the media here seem to be more effective than the scales of justice. 

[alien365]

13 hours ago, quake said:

Hit and run, 

Straight to jail, no if's or but's.

This despicable practice needs to stop here.

It's not ok to do it, just because you have money. 

 

The only if or but that I think is acceptable is the fear of being lynched. In that case, the driver should go to the nearest police station immediately, not whenever it's convenient 

[quake]

24 minutes ago, alien365 said:

The only if or but that I think is acceptable is the fear of being lynched. In that case, the driver should go to the nearest police station immediately, not whenever it's convenient 

 

Nah.

The lynch mob BS, is for cowards.

Sorry this is not west Africa.

That will be your thinking. yes ?

 

 

 

[VocalNeal]

46 minutes ago, quake said:

Nah.

The lynch mob BS, is for cowards.

 

In Indonesia we were told . If you involved in a serious accident and the vehicle is still mobile; return immediately to the company site and the company will handle it. 

This was apparently to avoid mob rule.

 

[quake]

13 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

 

In Indonesia we were told . If you involved in a serious accident and the vehicle is still mobile; return immediately to the company site and the company will handle it. 

This was apparently to avoid mob rule.

 

 

Thank you for for that.

This is Thailand, 

Lynch mobs is, like a unicorn on  a blue moon.

Just not the same as the place you talk about.

please don't excuse yourself from wrong doing.

it's laughable.

Hit and run can never be a good thing. 

[VocalNeal]

11 minutes ago, quake said:

please don't excuse yourself from wrong doing.

 

Never said I had done wrong. I was merely trying to point out that mob rule can be real.

 

If you feel otherwise you are allowed to let yourself to face trial by it. as is said "Up to you"

[quake]

3 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

 

Never said I had done wrong. I was merely trying to point out that mob rule can be real.

 

If you feel otherwise you are allowed to let yourself to face trial by it. as is said "Up to you"

 

Come on

Anyone that does a hit and run is a Vagina.

and should be jailed. end of.

 

[chickenslegs]

5 minutes ago, quake said:

 

Thank you for for that.

This is Thailand, 

Lynch mobs is, like a unicorn on  a blue moon.

Just not the same as the place you talk about.

please don't excuse yourself from wrong doing.

it's laughable.

My personal experience, from about 10-12 years ago.

 

I was driving a comfortable distance behind a motorcycle on a 3-lane dual carriageway near Pattaya (Sukhumvit road near to Chaiyapruek junction). The bike hit a pothole and the rider was thrown over the handlebars and lay in the centre lane, apparently unconscious.

 

I parked my car a few metres behind his body with the intention of preventing him from being run over by other traffic. So far so good.

 

I then got out of my car and went to see if I could help the victim (at that time I was fit and qualified in first aid). He was coming round and had some very nasty road rash.

 

I returned to my car to get a first aid kit and bottle of water, intending to help clean his wounds. In the meantime a group of maybe 7-8 locals had arrived and dragged him to the sidewalk (not a great idea).

 

When I got back to him I was immediately surrounded by the locals and it was obvious that they blamed me for the accident - seeing my car in close proximity to the fallen rider - and were getting very agitated. At that point I was genuinely in fear for my safety.

 

Lucky for me, the injured rider was fully conscious by now, and calmed everyone down.

 

So, I can easily believe that someone might flee the scene in fear of assault. However, that person should report to a police station as soon as possible. That is the law in the UK - not sure about Thailand

 

 

[quake]

Oops

[chickenslegs]

1 minute ago, quake said:

 

Hit and run, is for cowards.

Nice outcome for your  accident.

But maybe your were just frightened of people around you after  the accident.

Most people are not part of mob rule.

you just read it that way.

                       

 

Mine was not a hit and run. Neither was I involved in the "accident". I was just trying to protect someone from harm. The threat of the small crowd was genuine - there is no "maybe"about it. As you weren't there you can't have any clue.

 

[alien365]

3 hours ago, quake said:

 

Nah.

The lynch mob BS, is for cowards.

Sorry this is not west Africa.

That will be your thinking. yes ?

 

 

 

Erm, no... For general RTAs I find Thai people are very calm but this is not always the case. The law needs to consider all cases, hence my exception. Regarding being a coward, well not every man or woman is brave enough, or you could say foolish enough, to try and hold off the crowd.

[richard_smith237]

3 hours ago, chickenslegs said:

My personal experience, from about 10-12 years ago.

 

I was driving a comfortable distance behind a motorcycle on a 3-lane dual carriageway near Pattaya (Sukhumvit road near to Chaiyapruek junction). The bike hit a pothole and the rider was thrown over the handlebars and lay in the centre lane, apparently unconscious.

 

I parked my car a few metres behind his body with the intention of preventing him from being run over by other traffic. So far so good.

 

I then got out of my car and went to see if I could help the victim (at that time I was fit and qualified in first aid). He was coming round and had some very nasty road rash.

 

I returned to my car to get a first aid kit and bottle of water, intending to help clean his wounds. In the meantime a group of maybe 7-8 locals had arrived and dragged him to the sidewalk (not a great idea).

 

When I got back to him I was immediately surrounded by the locals and it was obvious that they blamed me for the accident - seeing my car in close proximity to the fallen rider - and were getting very agitated. At that point I was genuinely in fear for my safety.

 

Lucky for me, the injured rider was fully conscious by now, and calmed everyone down.

 

So, I can easily believe that someone might flee the scene in fear of assault. However, that person should report to a police station as soon as possible. That is the law in the UK - not sure about Thailand

 

Good story, and I can see that happening here in some areas.

 

A number of years ago now in an office mutli-story car park in BKK... I was slow looking for a space, the driver behind me impatient, over-took and hit the side of my car...  we stopped - she didn't get out of the car, clearly afraid of the 'bad foreigner'...

... so I just went back to my car and called my insurance... within 10mins about 20 office staff (male and female) were there talking with her... probably all her colleagues... Fortunately, none of them showed any aggression to me... But, I can see how things in 'some areas' (delicate wording) could get out of control quickly....

 

Regarding your motorcycle story...  very similar happened to me...   I saw a single motorcyclist sway into the central reservation then wipe out...  so I stopped to help. 

Then locals came out... the difference was that I asked them to help, call and ambulance, stop traffic (with the light on their phones - it was night time) etc...   but, they could easily have behaved differently.

 

So... I do understand the 'mob rule' thing...  But, I still dont see it as an excuse.... 

 

Hit-and-Run is just that, unless a mob forms and then driving straight to a police station 'could' be justified...  in this story of the Porsche driver, no way... 

 

 

 

 

 

[mancub]

18 hours ago, chilli42 said:

What is going on in this case is reprehensible. That said, the Thai view on these things is somewhat different. My Thai wife of 27 years a ways reminds me (and I paraphrase) … they are dead anyway, justice/revenge will not bring them back, the money will make things better for the living. Cold but pragmatic.

Curious, though, as to whether she would hold the same feeling if it was a foreigner involved, or would the call for justice be stronger?

 

[chilli42]

3 hours ago, mancub said:

Curious, though, as to whether she would hold the same feeling if it was a foreigner involved, or would the call for justice be stronger?

 

Having known her for 30 years the reaction would be the same but the foreigner would need to pay more.

[madone]

19 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Never had that problem when I was a hit and run victim.

The police traced him using CCTV, and charged him, 18 months from hit to end of court case.

I was just a witness, no  lawyer, no action on my part beyond form filling at their request.

 

Were you hit while cycling?

[BritManToo]

4 minutes ago, madone said:

 

Were you hit while cycling?

Nah, honda cb300r.