48 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

Is it possible to rehabilitate a bargirl user back into polite society?

 

Perhaps we should debate this question too?

 

Most men spend time with these girls not because they are too bad men. But simply because nobody else is speaking acceptable English in Thailand.
So a bargirl user becomes a bargirl avoider after 2 years on ED-visa learning Thai.

14 minutes ago, Tazmo said:

Well I tried several myself but finally decided that it wasn’t for me. Especially after 2 failed marriages, I wasn’t prepared for that high risk!

 

 I also realized that I myself needed rehabilitation from the life that I was living and partly why I came to Thailand. I had experience in working in Rehab and a great believer in it.

In the UK there is a law, “ The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act”, thousands have changed their lifestyle as w result. In drink- driving for example, you will be offered courses to undertake. Or f caught for a speeding offence. Also In High Security Mental Hospitals, patients who have been serious sex offenders have been rehabilitated and returned to the community. Very few reoffend.

 

So Bar girls can rehabilitate if they are motivated to change and given the appropriate help.

Though some may need Specialist Services! 100%  recovery is always going to be unrealistic.

 

Farangs also need rehabilitation of some form. Many I know have never had a serious relationship in their own country but have money and trying so buy love! Others have had like me broken relationships, but in addition no insight into their behaviour, bad tempered; drug dependent ( alcohol included) and other undesirable behaviors that will render them useless with Western women!

 

So it’s a 2- way thing, You can take a man out of the West but you can’t take the West out of him. A big challenge for relationships of mixed races, but never impossible, there are many shining examples. I know of a few close friends who have done well and a few who have got cleaned out! Horses for courses!

 

BTW it doesn’t only happen in Thailand but in other parts of Asia and the World. I know for sure it’s similar in the Philippines!

Seems most here think of bargirls who work in short time bars alike soi 6 fine establishments, while the majority works in beer bars, sports bars, or anything between, where they rarely being taken out more than once a week maybe, or have more than one long timers who take them for traveling. 
 

Some girls works harder than others, but the most popular girls with brain, never stays long. They disappear for not coming back. 
 

Those hardcore party girls with adhd, or other mentally challenged, drugs, adrenaline addicted creatures, are maybe not the best ones to rely on for a healthy life and gf/wife material. 
 

Anyway, those who live and breathe in the bar scenarios should know what’s best for them. Good luck, have fun, don’t die
 

 

On 6/15/2025 at 10:28 AM, BritManToo said:

But the only people I can really talk to are other English men .......

and I've never wanted to have sex with any of them!

Point taken but I thought that this thread is about converting a lady of the night to a spouse; what you refer to is a mate, drinking buddy or just another nice guy to spend time with 😉 

On 6/14/2025 at 11:08 PM, save the frogs said:

 

How long do those arrangements last (on average) when the girl is 35+ years younger?

 

The girl stays with the guy until the end usually ... or ?? 

 

Well there is that.

 

The 'girl' has to lag it out a few years until the old guy finally departs this world.

 

Weird relationship, but I guess it works for more than a few in Thailand

15 hours ago, GinBoy2 said:

Well there is that.

 

The 'girl' has to lag it out a few years until the old guy finally departs this world.

 

Weird relationship, but I guess it works for more than a few in Thailand

 

Well, just read a story about a Brit who got knocked off by his bargirl gf and her Thai bf. 

She was 30 years younger.

So in some rare cases, they get tired of waiting for you to die and accelerate the process.

Especially if you put property in her name and she doesnt need your money any more. 

Personally, I don't want to be with a woman who is waiting for me to die. 

 

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Well, just read a story about a Brit who got knocked off by his bargirl gf and her Thai bf. 

She was 30 years younger.

So in some rare cases, they get tired of waiting for you to die and accelerate the process.

Especially if you put property in her name and she doesnt need your money any more. 

Personally, I don't want to be with a woman who is waiting for me to die. 

 

Interesting.

Can you share the link please.

11 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Interesting.

Can you share the link please.

Ian Beeston, 69

Married a Thai bar girl 30 years younger

Bought the big house in Isaan

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/aug/17/thailand.familyandrelationships

 

7 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Ian Beeston, 69

Married a Thai bar girl 30 years younger

Bought the big house in Isaan

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/aug/17/thailand.familyandrelationships

 

 

What is rule nr 1? Except do not marry to young crazy prostitutes? 

 

 

18 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Ian Beeston, 69

Married a Thai bar girl 30 years younger

Bought the big house in Isaan

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/aug/17/thailand.familyandrelationships

 

Behind a paywall.

11 hours ago, Hummin said:

 

What is rule nr 1? Except do not marry to young crazy prostitutes? 

 

 

 

This is a rare case. But how many are anxiously awaiting for the man to die and miserable for years? 

 

Maybe if I entered such a relationship, I would gracefully bow out when I sensed that I was torturing the girl for staying with me, let her keep the house and go with her real boyfriend, and head back to the bars in Pattaya for some fun. 

 

Surely there must be some "signs" before they start plotting to have you knocked off? 

This guy even said he saw it coming. So why not leave? 

 

11 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Behind a paywall.

 

 

9 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

 

Even worse, that boring idiot walking around talking over video that has no connection to the story.

Laughing emoji and thumbs down on a murder video? Seriously?

6 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

This is a rare case. But how many are anxiously awaiting for the man to die and miserable for years? 

 

Maybe if I entered such a relationship, I would gracefully bow out when I sensed that I was torturing the girl for staying with me, let her keep the house and go with her real boyfriend, and head back to the bars in Pattaya for some fun. 

 

Surely there must be some "signs" before they start plotting to have you knocked off? 

This guy even said he saw it coming. So why not leave? 

 

 

Rule nr 1.

 

Do not invest more than you can walk away from!

 

"he had put everything in her name. All his savings from working as a design engineer, first at Perkins and then at Ford, had gone"

 

This is the single biggest mistake most do. One rule, that's all you have to keep back in your head. If you do not brake rule nr 1. You are off the hook at once things starts going south. 

 

 

 

11 hours ago, Hummin said:

"he had put everything in her name.

 

A girl, especially bargirl with no job, and hot and young... will usually not stay with a much older guy unless there is a house.

Why not go for the condo instead? At least you own it if things go south.

Maybe some guys actually like to show off with these lavish mansions. 

 

11 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

A girl, especially bargirl with no job, and hot and young... will usually not stay with a much older guy unless there is a house.

Why not go for the condo instead? At least you own it if things go south.

Maybe some guys actually like to show off with these lavish mansions. 

 

Bar girl or not, there is only one rule! 

 

Except from the obvious ones! But when it comes to the obvious rules, most get lost at once they smell pussy, so keep one rule only, and thats all everyone needs to do. Simple, but still for some, hard 

 

 

3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Well, just read a story about a Brit who got knocked off by his bargirl gf and her Thai bf. 

She was 30 years younger.

So in some rare cases, they get tired of waiting for you to die and accelerate the process.

Especially if you put property in her name and she doesnt need your money any more. 

Personally, I don't want to be with a woman who is waiting for me to die. 

 

Well I'm sure there are more than a few willing to 'accelerate' the process!

 

How many get caught, that's another question,

 

Thai justice is as we all know dubious, and I'm sure 'Natural Causes' is the default cause for any older dead farang with a sweetie young enough to be his daughter or granddaughter, 

A good illustration for most 😁

 

 

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