15 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Guns. And even more guns.

 

I think, with that response, you have totally undermined any respect....not that there was any....people on here might have held for your and your attempts to defend the indefensible......you are worse than a flat earther.....at least they don't cause deaths with their ridiculous ideas.

49 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

I think, with that response, you have totally undermined any respect....not that there was any....people on here might have held for your and your attempts to defend the indefensible......you are worse than a flat earther.....at least they don't cause deaths with their ridiculous ideas.

It's estimated that the European rampage take over of Nth & Sth America cost the lives of 65 million natives. 

They died because the weapons the Europeans had, were better at killing, than the native weapons were at defending. 

It don't sit well with me that the natives died because of some mysterious disease(s).

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

It's estimated that the European rampage take over of Nth & Sth America cost the lives of 65 million natives. 

They died because the weapons the Europeans had, were better at killing, than the native weapons were at defending. 

It don't sit well with me that the natives died because of some mysterious disease(s).

Yes, many Inuit people died as a result of contact with white settlers and explorers, primarily due to disease, but also from violence and colonial policies — including gun-related killings.

🦠 1. 

Disease Was the Main Killer

 

Like many Indigenous peoples, the Inuit had no immunity to many infectious diseases introduced by Europeans and Americans. The following diseases were especially devastating:

 

🔹 

Measles

Caused major mortality in Inuit communities with no prior exposure.

Outbreaks swept through settlements quickly, sometimes killing entire families or villages.

 

🔹 

Influenza

The 1918 Spanish flu was catastrophic:

In some Alaskan Inuit villages, over 50% of the population died

In some communities, entire villages were wiped out, leaving only orphans

 

🔹 

Tuberculosis

TB was one of the most persistent killers of Inuit populations from the late 19th century through the 1950s.

Overcrowded housing, malnutrition, and lack of healthcare worsened the toll.

In Canada, Inuit were forcibly removed to TB sanatoriums, often without being told where their relatives were or if they had died.

 

🔹 

Other Diseases

Smallpox, whooping cough, diphtheria, and venereal diseases also caused waves of death and suffering after contact.

🔫 2. 

Violence and Gunshot Deaths

 

Although not as widespread as disease, Inuit people were killed through violence, especially in early colonial periods:

Some explorers or traders used violence or firearms to intimidate or kill Inuit who resisted trade, theft, or encroachment.

Armed conflict occurred in localized incidents, especially in Greenland, Labrador, Alaska, and Canada’s Arctic.

 

Example:

In the 1800s, reports from Hudson’s Bay Company outposts and missionaries described retaliatory shootings of Inuit suspected of theft or resistance.

In some cases, cultural misunderstandings or language barriers led to escalations and lethal force.

🧊 3. 

Colonial Policies and Indirect Harm

In the 20th century, governments and missionaries often used coercion and force:

Inuit were relocated to unfamiliar and often harsh environments (e.g., Canada’s High Arctic relocations in the 1950s)

Children were taken from families into residential schools, leading to widespread abuse and trauma

Sled dogs were slaughtered by authorities in some areas of Canada, deeply affecting Inuit mobility, food access, and survival

⚖️ Summary

Cause of Death

Impact

Infectious disease

Primary cause of death (measles, flu, TB)

Gun violence

Occurred, but less common than disease

Colonial policy

Caused widespread suffering and indirect deaths

If you’d like firsthand accounts, timelines of epidemics, or case studies from Alaska or northern Canada, I can provide those too.

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

It's estimated that the European rampage take over of Nth & Sth America cost the lives of 65 million natives. 

They died because the weapons the Europeans had, were better at killing, than the native weapons were at defending. 

It don't sit well with me that the natives died because of some mysterious disease(s).

Oh, you've now moved on to something else off-topic to continue your anti-everything agenda, how surprising.......

 

I read this today, from experts, not a crazy anti bloke, have a read.....😉

 

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/measles-symptoms-treatment-182943644.html

3 minutes ago, transam said:

Oh, you've now moved on to something else off-topic to continue your anti-everything agenda, how surprising.......

 

I read this today, from experts, not a crazy anti bloke, have a read.....😉

 

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/measles-symptoms-treatment-182943644.html

The only bit I really agree with is; 'drink lots of water'.

 

Seems to me like it's propaganda piece to promote the MMR vaxx. Which is mentioned early on.

 

Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander also encouraged parents to take up any offer of the MMR vaccine in order to prevent children from contracting measles.

 

Ms Alexander is implying that having the vaxx will prevent measles. I do not agree with her.

 

I've looked, and I can't find evidence that there is a measles virus. And it goes without saying;

no virus = no viral disease = no effective vaxx = no need to have a vaxx

13 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

The only bit I really agree with is; 'drink lots of water'.

 

Seems to me like it's propaganda piece to promote the MMR vaxx. Which is mentioned early on.

 

Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander also encouraged parents to take up any offer of the MMR vaccine in order to prevent children from contracting measles.

 

Ms Alexander is implying that having the vaxx will prevent measles. I do not agree with her.

 

I've looked, and I can't find evidence that there is a measles virus. And it goes without saying;

no virus = no viral disease = no effective vaxx = no need to have a vaxx

Yet another laughable post from a non-knowledgeable forum bloke.......🤭

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I've looked, and I can't find evidence that there is a measles virus. And it goes without saying;

no virus = no viral disease = no effective vaxx = no need to have a vaxx

An uninvolved reader could more easily deduce the possible reasons for your failure.  I'm sure you never will consider or have ever considered the possibility that your 'research' is misdirected or seriously flawed.  That is a much more reasonable explanation than 'there is no evidence'.

 

You're so devoted to your opinion that you can't see the forest for the trees.

On 7/12/2025 at 10:25 PM, Stiddle Mump said:

It is the basis of virology. The first of the 'Gold Standard' lab tests.

LOL  .... the Koch postulates were written before anyone knew virus's existed.  Koch was busy in the 1880's.   The first discovery and naming of a virus was a decade later. 

 

You're grasp of medical science and history is warped by some personal flaw.... you just crave attention and this is an easy way to garner it.

 

Here's the real history of how virology got started:

In 1892, Dmitri Ivanovsky used filters that had pores small enough to retain bacteria to show that sap from a diseased tobacco plant remained infectious to healthy tobacco plants despite having been filtered. Martinus Beijerinck called the filtered, infectious substance a "virus" and this discovery is considered to be the beginning of virology.

 

From : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_virology

7 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

LOL  .... the Koch postulates were written before anyone knew virus's existed.  Koch was busy in the 1880's.   The first discovery and naming of a virus was a decade later. 

 

You're grasp of medical science and history is warped by some personal flaw.... you just crave attention and this is an easy way to garner it.

 

Here's the real history of how virology got started:

In 1892, Dmitri Ivanovsky used filters that had pores small enough to retain bacteria to show that sap from a diseased tobacco plant remained infectious to healthy tobacco plants despite having been filtered. Martinus Beijerinck called the filtered, infectious substance a "virus" and this discovery is considered to be the beginning of virology.

 

From : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_virology

All based on a misconception that pathogenic viruses exist. In fact the slices below are utter nonsense and would be returned, if they were presented for publication, with a name attached.

 

They are simply not true.

 

""Although the influenza virus that caused the 1918–1919 influenza pandemic was not discovered until the 1930s, the descriptions of the disease and subsequent research has proved it was to blame.""

 

And

 

""These agents were invisible and could only be grown in living animals. The discovery of viruses paved the way to understanding these mysterious infections. And, although Koch's postulates could not be fulfilled for many of these infections, this did not stop the pioneer virologists from looking for viruses in infections for which no other cause could be found.""

 

When a cell decays and breaks down - as they are doing in their millions daily - some of the debris is called, by the virologists, viruses. Most people would see them as minute, dead, inert call particles.

 

20 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

All based on a misconception that pathogenic viruses exist. In fact the slices below are utter nonsense and would be returned, if they were presented for publication, with a name attached.

 

They are simply not true.

 

""Although the influenza virus that caused the 1918–1919 influenza pandemic was not discovered until the 1930s, the descriptions of the disease and subsequent research has proved it was to blame.""

 

And

 

""These agents were invisible and could only be grown in living animals. The discovery of viruses paved the way to understanding these mysterious infections. And, although Koch's postulates could not be fulfilled for many of these infections, this did not stop the pioneer virologists from looking for viruses in infections for which no other cause could be found.""

 

When a cell decays and breaks down - as they are doing in their millions daily - some of the debris is called, by the virologists, viruses. Most people would see them as minute, dead, inert call particles.

 

LOL   and we're supposed to believe all your fiction.... we all know you're really trying to hide that you are in fact   owl sees all ..... you're not being honest.  You are a proven deceiver and also disrespectful to the intelligence of other AN posters by trying to continue the denial and deception.  You reputation is nada, rien, zilch, zippo.  Time to retire to TT chat room and take your 19th century medical misinformation with you.

1 hour ago, gamb00ler said:

LOL   and we're supposed to believe all your fiction.... we all know you're really trying to hide that you are in fact   owl sees all ..... you're not being honest.  You are a proven deceiver and also disrespectful to the intelligence of other AN posters by trying to continue the denial and deception.  You reputation is nada, rien, zilch, zippo.  Time to retire to TT chat room and take your 19th century medical misinformation with you.

Right then Sir.

 

This calls for a little celebration. Vaccines for everyone.

On Vaccines a child has died at Alder hay liverpool after contacting measles the first in for 10 years, partly due to the Anti Vac brigade spreading the fear of vaccines. All Parents have now been advised to innoculate there children with the MMR vaccine.

10 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Right then Sir.

 

This calls for a little celebration. Vaccines for everyone.

No, that is another silly statement, from a very silly chappy......

Undercover video exposes Johnson & Johnson Lead Scientist Confesses J&J COVID-19 Vaccine Was 'Not Safe and Effective,'

 

 

On 7/14/2025 at 9:25 PM, Stiddle Mump said:

All based on a misconception that pathogenic viruses exist. In fact the slices below are utter nonsense and would be returned, if they were presented for publication, with a name attached.

 

They are simply not true.

 

""Although the influenza virus that caused the 1918–1919 influenza pandemic was not discovered until the 1930s, the descriptions of the disease and subsequent research has proved it was to blame.""

 

And

 

""These agents were invisible and could only be grown in living animals. The discovery of viruses paved the way to understanding these mysterious infections. And, although Koch's postulates could not be fulfilled for many of these infections, this did not stop the pioneer virologists from looking for viruses in infections for which no other cause could be found.""

 

When a cell decays and breaks down - as they are doing in their millions daily - some of the debris is called, by the virologists, viruses. Most people would see them as minute, dead, inert call particles.

 

Move to the US and apply for the JFK Junior assistant 

4 hours ago, still kicking said:

Move to the US and apply for the JFK Junior assistant 

Would be better if I was the boss and Kennedy was my assistant.

On 6/15/2025 at 6:44 AM, Red Phoenix said:

Will there ever be a safe vaccine? 

NEVER

 

You guys with poor DNA, inferior genes are doomed. 

 

Please avoid all vaccines, we don't want to see you die.