EU review indicates Israel breached human rights in Gaza

[bannork]

 

Israel's actions in the Gaza Strip indicate a breach of the human rights provisions contained in its Association Agreement with the European Union, a highly anticipated review from the bloc's diplomatic service has found, citing a collection of findings by independent international organisations.

 

The breach stems from Israel's war on Gaza and the stringent conditions applied to the deliveries of humanitarian aid, which have stoked fears of widespread famine among Palestinians living in the densely populated enclave. It also covers Israel's decades-long occupation of the West Bank, where settlers have engaged in violent acts.

 

Europeans have reacted with shock and fury at reports of Palestinians being killed by the Israeli army while waiting for supplies at distribution sites.

 

EU review indicates Israel breached human rights in Gaza

 

 

[Mike_Hunt]

And the EU will do nothing.  

[jimmybcool]

Of course they think this.  Never mind it is war and they are fighting a dishonorable foe that hides behind their own population and lies through their teeth about atrocities.  None of that is ever discovered by European governments.  Pathetic.

[coolcarer]

5 hours ago, bannork said:

 

Israel's actions in the Gaza Strip indicate a breach of the human rights provisions contained in its Association Agreement with the European Union, a highly anticipated review from the bloc's diplomatic service has found, citing a collection of findings by independent international organisations.

 

The breach stems from Israel's war on Gaza and the stringent conditions applied to the deliveries of humanitarian aid, which have stoked fears of widespread famine among Palestinians living in the densely populated enclave. It also covers Israel's decades-long occupation of the West Bank, where settlers have engaged in violent acts.

 

Europeans have reacted with shock and fury at reports of Palestinians being killed by the Israeli army while waiting for supplies at distribution sites.

 

EU review indicates Israel breached human rights in Gaza

 

 

Not all of the EU member states then.

 

Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy and Lithuania were against, and Latvia adopted a "neutral" position, sources said then.

Israel decried the decision and called on Brussels to keep bilateral dialogue going.

"We completely reject the direction taken in the statement, which reflects a total misunderstanding of the complex reality Israel is facing," a spokesperson of Israel's foreign ministry said in May. "This war was forced upon Israel by Hamas, and Hamas is the one responsible for its continuation."

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, coolcarer said:

Not all of the EU member states then.

 

Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy and Lithuania were against, and Latvia adopted a "neutral" position, sources said then

That was before the enquiry started. The result of the enquiry seems to be this:

"Israel's actions in the Gaza Strip indicate a breach of the human rights provisions contained in its Association Agreement with the European Union"

[lordgrinz]

I'll say it again, might makes right, everything else is just noise. People seem to think there is some type of World rules and laws, guess who made those? Yup, those with the most "might". At any moment someone could come along and change that, because as soon as the mightiest wins, the World laws and rules change. People need to stop being so naive as to believe they are safe from everything because someone or some organization makes a declaration, law, or rules. 

[coolcarer]

48 minutes ago, stevenl said:

That was before the enquiry started. The result of the enquiry seems to be this:

"Israel's actions in the Gaza Strip indicate a breach of the human rights provisions contained in its Association Agreement with the European Union"

What on earth are you talking about? What was at the start of the enquiry? The member states that refused to take part did not magically change their minds. They still refuse.

 

What enquiry are you referring to anyway? This was a review of the pact the EU has with Israel, not an enquiry.

 

Any serious action taken, a big if then it takes a unanimous decision of member states which they just do not have. In addition keeping the 17 member states that wanted the review in lockstep will still be a problem. Any action will not be announced till the end of the summer, note if any action! The review outcome also needs to be presented to Israel first.

[stevenl]

57 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

What on earth are you talking about? What was at the start of the enquiry? The member states that refused to take part did not magically change their minds. They still refuse.

 

What enquiry are you referring to anyway? This was a review of the pact the EU has with Israel, not an enquiry.

 

Any serious action taken, a big if then it takes a unanimous decision of member states which they just do not have. In addition keeping the 17 member states that wanted the review in lockstep will still be a problem. Any action will not be announced till the end of the summer, note if any action! The review outcome also needs to be presented to Israel first.

You don't know what their opinion is.

 

The result of the review , enquiry, call it whatever you like, is this.

"Israel's actions in the Gaza Strip indicate a breach of the human rights provisions contained in its Association Agreement with the European Union"

[coolcarer]

24 minutes ago, stevenl said:

You don't know what their opinion is.

 

The result of the review , enquiry, call it whatever you like, is this.

"Israel's actions in the Gaza Strip indicate a breach of the human rights provisions contained in its Association Agreement with the European Union"

Where did I claim I know what their opinion is? 
 

I call it a review because that’s what they call it. 

 

EU foreign ministers are set to discuss the review during a gathering in Brussels on Monday. Member countries remain divided in their approach to Israel.

While some ministers could advocate for moving toward taking action based on the review, no concrete decisions are expected at Monday’s session.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/eu-report-finds-indications-that-israeli-actions-in-gaza-violate-cooperation-deal/

[Yellowtail]

When did Israel become part of the EU? 

 

Hey, why are none of the human rights organizations up in arms about the civilians Iran is killing in Israel? 

[billd766]

2 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

I'll say it again, might makes right, everything else is just noise. People seem to think there is some type of World rules and laws, guess who made those? Yup, those with the most "might". At any moment someone could come along and change that, because as soon as the mightiest wins, the World laws and rules change. People need to stop being so naive as to believe they are safe from everything because someone or some organization makes a declaration, law, or rules. 

You can say it as many times as you like, but it still does NOT make it true or correct.

[lordgrinz]

2 minutes ago, billd766 said:

You can say it as many times as you like, but it still does NOT make it true or correct.

 

It's actually fact, as "true" as the Sun rising tomorrow, but I don't expect naive people to believe it. They seem to believe in a fantasy world where the "good guys" always win, and their version of "right and wrong" is the only version out there, those who wield strength through force/power control "right and wrong".

[bannork]

2 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

It's actually fact, as "true" as the Sun rising tomorrow, but I don't expect naive people to believe it. They seem to believe in a fantasy world where the "good guys" always win, and their version of "right and wrong" is the only version out there, those who wield strength through force/power control "right and wrong".

The League of Nations and then the United Nations were formed to give a sense of world order with universally accepted rules regarding conflicts between states.

Of course the UN is not perfect, but since its formation in 1948 it has taken part in 72 peace keeping missions around the world, 12 of which continue to this day.

Surely better than a simple might is right world.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_United_Nations_peacekeeping

[lordgrinz]

2 minutes ago, bannork said:

The League of Nations and then the United Nations were formed to give a sense of world order with universally accepted rules regarding conflicts between states.

Of course the UN is not perfect, but since its formation in 1948 it has taken part in 72 peace keeping missions around the world, 12 of which continue to this day.

Surely better than a simple might is right world.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_United_Nations_peacekeeping

 

Until someone else wields his might and pushes the top dog off the pedestal, and that's all it will take do so. If Hitler won the war, you would be under his control, and would be forced to accept his idea of "right and wrong". Don't ever forget, this so called "sense of world order" is nothing more than a fantasy, a fragile one at that.

[bannork]

26 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Until someone else wields his might and pushes the top dog off the pedestal, and that's all it will take do so. If Hitler won the war, you would be under his control, and would be forced to accept his idea of "right and wrong". Don't ever forget, this so called "sense of world order" is nothing more than a fantasy, a fragile one at that.

It's fragile but it's not a fantasy. Europe enjoyed an unprecedented period of peace from 1945, apart from Yugoslavia's civil wars, until Putin attacked Ukraine.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, bannork said:

It's fragile but it's not a fantasy. Europe enjoyed an unprecedented period of peace from 1945, apart from Yugoslavia's civil wars, until Putin attacked Ukraine.

 

 

The United Nations completely failed in Lebanon. How a UN peacekeeping mission may have inadvertently produced Israel's next war.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/12/26/the-united-nations-completely-failed-in-lebanon/

[jimmybcool]

2 hours ago, bannork said:

It's fragile but it's not a fantasy. Europe enjoyed an unprecedented period of peace from 1945, apart from Yugoslavia's civil wars, until Putin attacked Ukraine.

 

 

 

You have to ask yourself why Europe enjoyed peace during that span.  

[Yagoda]

7 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

When did Israel become part of the EU? 

 

Hey, why are none of the human rights organizations up in arms about the civilians Iran is killing in Israel? 

Killing Jews is a European tradition.

[Yagoda]

26 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

 

You have to ask yourself why Europe enjoyed peace during that span.  

Are the words abbreviated USA?

[TedG]

14 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Are the words abbreviated USA?

Yep.

[0ffshore360]

16 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Killing Jews is a European tradition.

Killing or curtailing financial interference?

 

[Yagoda]

Just now, 0ffshore360 said:

Killing or curtailing financial interference?

 

No, just murdering women and children. A tradition since the Middle Ages. Success breeds jealousy.

[PatThaiM]

3 hours ago, bannork said:

It's fragile but it's not a fantasy. Europe enjoyed an unprecedented period of peace from 1945, apart from Yugoslavia's civil wars, until Putin attacked Ukraine.

 

 

And look what has happened in the Middle East!
 

[Nick Carter icp]

3 hours ago, bannork said:

It's fragile but it's not a fantasy. Europe enjoyed an unprecedented period of peace from 1945, apart from Yugoslavia's civil wars, until Putin attacked Ukraine.

 

 

 

   Have you forgotten about the Cyprus war in 1974?

[0ffshore360]

9 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

I'll say it again, might makes right, everything else is just noise. People seem to think there is some type of World rules and laws, guess who made those? Yup, those with the most "might". At any moment someone could come along and change that, because as soon as the mightiest wins, the World laws and rules change. People need to stop being so naive as to believe they are safe from everything because someone or some organization makes a declaration, law, or rules. 

So you embrace the idea of social anarchy on a global scale and have no problem with what other normal beings would  consider  injustice of all kinds inflicted  on self or significant others? 

A no complaints  entity ? Amazing 

 

[hotsun]

9 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

I'll say it again, might makes right, everything else is just noise. People seem to think there is some type of World rules and laws, guess who made those? Yup, those with the most "might". At any moment someone could come along and change that, because as soon as the mightiest wins, the World laws and rules change. People need to stop being so naive as to believe they are safe from everything because someone or some organization makes a declaration, law, or rules. 

The leftists who downvote you think that virtue signalling will win this war for muslims

[Yellowtail]

16 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

So you embrace the idea of social anarchy on a global scale and have no problem with what other normal beings would  consider  injustice of all kinds inflicted  on self or significant others? 

A no complaints  entity ? Amazing 

 

Why are all the human rights organizations not outraged by all the civilians Iran is intentionally killing in Israel? 

[Nick Carter icp]

5 hours ago, bannork said:

The League of Nations and then the United Nations were formed to give a sense of world order with universally accepted rules regarding conflicts between states.

Of course the UN is not perfect, but since its formation in 1948 it has taken part in 72 peace keeping missions around the world, 12 of which continue to this day.

Surely better than a simple might is right world.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_United_Nations_peacekeeping

 

   Where were the U.N in Rwanda in the 1990's ?

800 000 people were murdered in ethic cleansing and the U.N did nothing 

[0ffshore360]

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Why are all the human rights organizations not outraged by all the civilians Iran is intentionally killing in Israel? 

Intentionally? Have you not noted the discrepancy in reported fatalities ? 

Despite the reported fact that Israel has positioned military sites within civilian areas the Iranian retaliation to unprovoked attack targeting of such has not resulted in numerous civilian deaths . By contrast Israel has  launched air strikes on administration buildings  indiscriminately  causing many civilian deaths in an attempt to intimidate .

Which side has demonstrated greater restraint ? Which side betrays its credibility ?

And that on the heels of another !