BREAKING NEWS Trump Confirms Surprise US Airstrikes on Iran’s Nuclear Sites, Including Fordo

[dinsdale]

41 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Pleeeeeeeeeeze!

Bombing a country is NOT considered an act of war?

Technically no. This will be called a necessary military action to protect the US, US personnel and interests and Israel from a nuclear threat. As I have been saying no declaration of war has of yet been made by the POTUS to congress which would then need to be authorized by congress. When the US went into Granada under the Regan administration this was not officially a war. Vietnam. War or police action? Congress never declared it a war so technically the US was not at war with North Vietnam. The same applies for North Korea. Technical and legalistic nonsense no doubt but it is the case.

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Clinton tried to destroy Saddam's weapons programs in 1998 by bombing Iraq for 4 days. It didn't work, and in 2003 Bush Jr. had to resort to a full scale invasion to get rid of what turned out to be imaginary programs.

This time around who knows what the result will be. Best case is that the rule of the Mullahs end and somehow Iran turns into a democracy. Worst case is that the war spreads and that a desperate Iran attacks military and civilian  targets wherever it can do so.

What's making this so incredibly dangerous is that the US is lead by a person so completely incapable of doing the job he's elected to do it beggars belief. He shouldn't even be allowed to lead gaggle of geese across the road.
In addition, he's surrounded in key positions by persons completely without experience and discernible talent. The perfect recipe for disaster.

 

Trump’s strike on Iran marks a momentous moment — and gamble — for the world

 

"But if Trump’s gamble fails to destroy Iran’s nuclear program — despite his claim to have “obliterated” it with US air strikes — an often-lawless president could have set the United States and the world on a disastrous course. The risk now is that the Iranian regime responds by attacking US forces, targets or civilians in the region and the conflict escalates into a full-scale war."

Its almost like your hoping there will be the worst case scenario. Nothing comes without risk but the risk of doing nothing would have been far greater.

 

Meanwhile more grounded heads state:

 

"Starmer said, “Iran's nuclear programme is a grave threat to international security. Iran can never be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon and the US has taken action to alleviate that threat. The situation in the Middle East remains volatile and stability in the region is a priority. We call on Iran to return to the negotiating table and reach a diplomatic solution to end this crisis.”

 

 

[Magictoad]

As the Zionist leader Ze’ev Jabotinsky put it: “We were not created in order to teach morals and manners to our enemies.”

Go Israel 🇮🇱 

[jvs]

53 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

The USA is the main reason you’re not speaking German today.

 

The Poms should never forget that fact.

Really ,clearly you went to school in the US, i do not say you were educated.

How did you do in history class? Not very well i am sure.

If it was not for the Germans you would still be paying tax to the Uk and you would have a real king,not a fake one.

Oh and one other thing,the US was built by Europeans. If not for immigrants from Europe there would be no US at all!

Oh, i see you are not playing with a full deck,understandable but you should not make a fool of yourself on so many occasions.

Get your facts straight!

 

[Yagoda]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

It won't be good for oil prices if Iran decides to choke off 20% of the world's oil supply by mining the Strait of Hormuz.

Never going to happen

[DezLez]

9 minutes ago, jvs said:

Get your facts straight!

I suggest you do so by explaining the above.

[Yagoda]

10 minutes ago, jvs said:

If not for immigrants from Europe there would be no US at all!

Kind of racist of you to disregard the contributions of the slaves

[Yagoda]

24 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

The risk now is that the Iranian regime responds by attacking US forces, targets or civilians in the region and the conflict escalates into a full-scale war."

Yeah that will work well for Iran. Israel owns the air.

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, transam said:

Ooooh, that ol' chestnut that you had nothing to do with.........😂

 

And the USA should not forget it was formed by mainly mass immigration from Europe, including Germans.........................😆

Legal immigration, 

 

The US and the western world are only what they are today because of England's greatness. 

[BLMFem]

Just now, Yagoda said:

Yeah that will work well for Iran. Israel owns the air.

So Iran is neutralized then and not a danger to anyone? Great news!👍

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

Already? Like in the past week?

 

Months ago.

 

Then why did Trump have to publicly state just last week that Tulsi and the rest of the 'intelligence' agencies were wrong?

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

He hasn't declared war. Declaration of war needs congressional approval. As it is the US is not at war with Iran so no congressional authorization needed.

Pretty sure the bombing is considered an act of war by Iran. The US is a bully in these regards, all ways has been, thats why they are hated worldwide.

This is only done for the terrorist state of Israel.

Trump shod concentrate on the US, and not what every other preside t before him has done, thays what people voted for.

People are sick and tired of US forever wars

 

[NanLaew]

49 minutes ago, Peter Crow said:

But the Peace Nobel prize is now a certainty...

 

Nobel Peace Prize committee: "Sorry, Donald, but it's only going to be Time Man of the Year (again). Take it or leave it."

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Pleeeeeeeeeeze!

Bombing a country is NOT considered an act of war?

 

If you are a Guardian reader, yes. Otherwise...

[dinsdale]

3 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Pretty sure the bombing is considered an act of war by Iran.

I'm sure they do. I'm also sure that they consider being the largest state sponsor of terrorism justified.

[Magictoad]

10 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So the tailed wagged and the U.S. is now at war with Iran.

 

As the Zionist leader Ze’ev Jabotinsky put it: “We were not created in order to teach morals and manners to our enemies.”

[NanLaew]

28 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Its almost like your hoping there will be the worst case scenario. Nothing comes without risk but the risk of doing nothing would have been far greater.

 

Meanwhile more grounded heads state:

 

"Starmer said, “Iran's nuclear programme is a grave threat to international security. Iran can never be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon and the US has taken action to alleviate that threat. The situation in the Middle East remains volatile and stability in the region is a priority. We call on Iran to return to the negotiating table and reach a diplomatic solution to end this crisis.”

 

 

 

Quoting the Milquetoast British PM is not evidence of a 'grounded' opinion.

 

But thanks for the giggle.

[Magictoad]

8 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Pretty sure the bombing is considered an act of war by Iran. The US is a bully in these regards, all ways has been, thats why they are hated worldwide.

This is only done for the terrorist state of Israel.

Trump shod concentrate on the US, and not what every other preside t before him has done, thays what people voted for.

People are sick and tired of US forever wars

 

If Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu are not awarded a Nobel Peace Prize, the institution no longer holds any meaning. Give one to them! The American bombing of Iran’s nuclear programme was the single greatest intervention on behalf of global peace we have seen in our lifetimes.

[Yagoda]

12 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

So Iran is neutralized then and not a danger to anyone? Great news!👍

Depends how you define danger. Killing a few more civilians? probably. Give us a reason to finish the job.

 

Im sure,  since you are one of the leading America haters here, that bothers you.

[dinsdale]

Fairly sure this thread will be closed soon with all the verbal diarrhea going on.

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, Magictoad said:

If Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu are not awarded a Nobel Peace Prize, the institution no longer holds any meaning. Give one to them! The American bombing of Iran’s nuclear programme was the single greatest intervention on behalf of global peace we have seen in our lifetimes.

The axis of evil earned a world peace by who? 

[simple1]

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Is there any dispute that Iran was enriching uranium, and that they have been calling for the annihilation of the US and Israel for decades? 

 

 

 

No, but not to the level suitable for nuclear weapons. IMO the demands for US and Israeli annihilation is political hyperbole. Currently there are conflicting opinions within the Trump Administration was to whether Iran was actually developing nuclear weapons capability, The IAEA also not calling out Iran for nuclear weapons development. All rather foggy, no clarity at this stage where this will end., though some players are stating a diplomatic solution will eventually come to light.

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, Magictoad said:

If Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu are not awarded a Nobel Peace Prize, the institution no longer holds any meaning. Give one to them! The American bombing of Iran’s nuclear programme was the single greatest intervention on behalf of global peace we have seen in our lifetimes.

Greta will get the Nobel Prize for her contributions in Gaza before Trump gets one. 

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

Quoting the Milquetoast British PM is not evidence of a 'grounded' opinion.

 

But thanks for the giggle.

Your welcome, one of the rare times I agree with him and give him credit for agreeing with Trump who I also agree took the right decision

[NanLaew]

3 minutes ago, Magictoad said:

If Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu are not awarded a Nobel Peace Prize, the institution no longer holds any meaning. Give one to them! The American bombing of Iran’s nuclear programme was the single greatest intervention on behalf of global peace we have seen in our lifetimes.

 

Why? Has Iran surrendered? Has reciprocal visa-free travel been established for Americans and Iranians?

 

Remember Dubya's famously premature outing on the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln offshore San Diego with the "Mission Accomplished" banner?

 

Even Ethan Hunt knows better than to pull a stunt as dumb as that.

[dinsdale]

6 minutes ago, simple1 said:

No, but not to the level suitable for nuclear weapons

Level is 60%. 90% is needed. This jump doesn't take long from what I've seen.

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

Level is 60%. 90% is needed. This jump doesn't take long from what I've seen.

Why argue with Iran boosters.

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

No, but not to the level suitable for nuclear weapons.

Not yet, but much higher than what is needed for peaceful purposes,

5 minutes ago, simple1 said:

IMO the demands for US and Israeli annihilation is political hyperbole.

Oh, so you think they're kidding. 

5 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Currently there are conflicting opinions within the Trump Administration was to whether Iran was actually developing nuclear weapons capability, The IAEA also not calling out Iran for nuclear weapons development. All rather foggy, no clarity at this stage where this will end., though some players are stating a diplomatic solution will eventually come to light.

I do not believe there are significant "...conflicting opinions within the Trump Administration was to whether Iran was actually developing nuclear weapons capability,"

 

What do you suppose the purpose of Iran's nuclear program is? 

 

"On May 31, 2025, IAEA reported that Iran had sharply increased its stockpile of uranium enriched to 60% purity, just below weapons-grade, reaching over 408 kilograms, a nearly 50% rise since February. The agency warned that this amount is enough for multiple nuclear weapons if further enriched."

 

"In June 2025, the NCRI said Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons through a new program called the "Kavir Plan". According to the NCRI, the new project involves six sites in Semnan province working on warheads and related technology, succeeding the previous AMAD Project"

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_program_of_Iran#:~:text=On May 31%2C 2025%2C IAEA,nuclear weapons if further enriched.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

Level is 60%. 90% is needed. This jump doesn't take long from what I've seen.

The IAEA had actually found particles at 83.7% and that was back in 2023 at Fordo one of the 3 nuclear sites bombed.

 

UN report says uranium particles enriched up to 83.7 percent found in Iran

 Inspectors from the United Nations nuclear watchdog found uranium particles enriched up to 83.7 percent in Iran’s underground Fordo nuclear site, a report seen Tuesday by The Associated Press said.

The confidential quarterly report by the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency distributed to member states likely will renew tensions between Iran and the West over its program.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/un-report-says-uranium-particles-enriched-up-to-83-7-percent-found-in-iran

[BLMFem]

14 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Depends how you define danger. Killing a few more civilians? probably. Give us a reason to finish the job.

 

Im sure,  since you are one of the leading America haters here, that bothers you.

Defining danger in this context is very simple. And are you telling me you can "finish the job" without boots on the ground? Well, if you've found a way you should tell the Joint Chiefs, I'm sure they would be massively interested.

And you should really stop trolling posters with your "hating America" drivel. We all know who ran from the US and spends every day hating on it.