US CDC report shows no link between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism

[GroveHillWanderer]

(Reuters) - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention posted a report on Tuesday that said evidence does not support a link between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism or other neurodevelopmental disorders, ahead of a two-day meeting of an advisory panel later this week.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/us-cdc-report-shows-no-link-between-thimerosal-containing-vaccines-and-autism/ar-AA1HljK0

[Lacessit]

This anti-vaxxer theme has been debunked for quite some time.

[Red Phoenix]

1 hour ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

(Reuters) - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention posted a report on Tuesday that said evidence does not support a link between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism or other neurodevelopmental disorders, ahead of a two-day meeting of an advisory panel later this week.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/us-cdc-report-shows-no-link-between-thimerosal-containing-vaccines-and-autism/ar-AA1HljK0

 

HHS Secretary Kennedy unleashed a 1500-word MOAB of a tweet yesterday about vaccines, stenographic corporate media, and white coated lies. It is far too long to republish the whole thing (read it for yourself). His theme featured a common vaccine ingredient, thimerosal, and his targets included luminaries such as The Guardian, the American Academy of Pediatrics, and “the vaccine industry” writ large.

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[Red Phoenix]

And here is what Jeff Childers is reporting re the Thimerosal issue on his daily substack-blog 

Source: https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/rank-choices-wednesday-june-25-2025

 

> Thimerosal is a mercury-based chemical that has been used since the 1930s as a preservative in vaccines, especially in multi-dose vials like flu shots. It contains ethylmercury, a form of mercury meant to stop bacteria and fungus from growing in opened vaccine vials.

Since 1998, thimerosal has been banned in all over-the-counter products. But the CDC still has no guidelines for safe ethylmercury exposure—none. The NIH, NIEHS, NRC, and EPA have all flagged ethylmercury as hazardous in some form or another. Industrial material safety sheets list thimerosal as mutagenic, and California’s EPA classifies it as a reproductive toxicant. While thimerosal was removed from most childhood vaccines in the early 2000s, it’s still found in many flu vaccines—including those recommended for pregnant women and infants as young as six months old.

As Kennedy’s X essay correctly stated, there is a large body of literature —published in reputable journals— raising red flags about thimerosal and ethylmercury. Numerous studies (both animal and cellular) show thimerosal impairs neuronal development, alters brain chemistry, and crosses the blood-brain barrier. Other studies link prenatal or early life exposure to mercury—including ethylmercury—to cognitive and motor impairments.

Worse, accepted research confirmed that ethylmercury from thimerosal is not rapidly cleared from the body as once claimed —sound familiar?— but instead can accumulate in the brain, in some cases for decades. And NIH and FDA-commissioned studies found ethylmercury is at least as toxic —and possibly even more toxic— as methylmercury (the type found in fish), which is heavily regulated.

Kennedy was also correct that there are zero long-term, placebo-controlled human studies that prove thimerosal is safe. That’s not a conspiracy theory. It’s a plain fact. The FDA itself admitted in 2001 (as Kennedy cited) that no safety testing of thimerosal has ever been done in humans. That hasn’t changed in a meaningful way.

All of that evidence does not stop newspapers and pediatric associations from claiming the “science is settled.” What do they think “settled” even means? Gravity is settled. The boiling point of water at sea level is settled. Here, as always when it comes to vaccines, they just vaguely appeal to authority, which is as classic a logical fallacy as has ever kicked grass.

 

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[Stiddle Mump]

In my last appearance on a stage (Willesden, Nth Wst London)  in the late 1990s I highlighted the adjuvants that are in vaxxes. A well know doctor was also giving his opinions.

 

TBH, as mush as I thought it was bad medicine, I put the whole medical thing aside and got on with life. Both in England and from 07 in Thailand. Didn't pick up the vaxx baton again until late 2019, when I heard that an epidemic was about to be unleashed on the gullible world. Have not passed it on since.

 

Autism!! What is it and how do kids get it? My take it is a relatively new sickness. Mark Blaxill and San Olmsted co-wrote: The Age of Autism: Mercury, medicine, and a Man-Made Epidemic.**

 

That research made a lot of sense, but I'll reserve judgement.

 

** ref:  www.CanYouCatchaCold.com

 

 

[Stiddle Mump]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

This anti-vaxxer theme has been debunked for quite some time.

Can't be debunked. It is true.

 

Vaccines are anti-science. Nature is truth.

[Purdey]

Steve Jobs agreed that natural medicines "is truth". 

He got cancer.

Took natural herbal medicines.

Died of cancer.

 

Jeff Childers is a lawyer.

Not a scientist.

Not a virologist

Listening to him is like listening to a bicycle repairman explain how to make a rocket.

[0ffshore360]

Unfortunately this is the same Kennedy who tried and failed to defend a report containing references to non existing studies attributed to  bogus identity or authors who denied any knowledge of .

I am becoming convinced that the elites who control things overall are committed to a mass reduction in the global population . Problematic to that goal is that the populations which are still growing are those that have never had universal access to many medical interventions that the developed west has enjoyed.

It is just as likely if not more so that if any attributable chemical agent is ever found undeniably to cause the neurological symptoms of the autistic  spectrum it will be the copious and "approved" preservatives and related artificial food additives .

The MMR vaccine suspicions were taken seriously by Japan and it has been a long time since they were administered to Japanese infant children. I have read that in fact Japans incidence of ASD is higher than the global average. Yet the real justification was due to related aseptic meningitis attributed to the mumps component but that was not  generally made known.

It remains a fact that brain scans cannot isolate or identify autism even at worst impact levels let alone at fringe degrees of the spectrum . It is a functional  process disorder rather than a symptom of damage.

Think in terms of dyslexia which thankfully is recognized as real in same same but different way.

OCD , depression. manic behaviours. Rare cases have an identifiable cause such as brain tumors . Most are a disruption in chemical processes. Many can be medicated to suppress the symptoms .

However vaccines not only save lives , they also prevent ongoing potential physical damage such as polio or meningitis , std,s  , yellow fever etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[0ffshore360]

56 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Can't be debunked. It is true.

 

Vaccines are anti-science. Nature is truth.

Simply using the word  vaccine is a recognition of a true science.

 

[Red Phoenix]

21 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Jeff Childers is a lawyer.

Not a scientist.

Not a virologist

Listening to him is like listening to a bicycle repairman explain how to make a rocket.

"Listening to him is like listening to a bicycle repairman explain how to make a rocket." 

So a bit like listening to you...

 

You can also read the original X-post that RFK jr wrote on that issue (see link higher).

Ooooh. but he is a lawyer too.

Maybe ask Fauci to shine his darkness on the matter...

 

[Stiddle Mump]

16 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

However vaccines not only save lives , they also prevent ongoing potential physical damage such as polio or meningitis , std,s  , yellow fever etc.

Utter nonsense.

 

Too much BBC and CNN for you Sir.

[0ffshore360]

Laughably incorrect assertion .

By what association  do you declare membership of this pseudo medical platform you claim a voice in ? 

Are you a failed or struck off medic of some prior designation?

Or a devotee of a fringe  religion?

I simply hope there is some misguided upbringing in indoctrinated thought rather than an irrational objection to medical intervention all together.

[Stiddle Mump]

48 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Simply using the word  vaccine is a recognition of a true science.

 

There are a couple of points that are worth considering.

 

Firstly; a vaccine is often quoted as 'safe and 'effective'. Let's take a look. Forget safe; cause no medical intervention can be safe. But effective! Effective; the medical definition of which, has been often subtly changed. The mRNA vaxxes went from 100% safe and effective to 'might' lessen the symptoms 'if' the jabbed contracts the disease. In just 24 months. In truth; they have no idea.

 

That takes us to 'disease'. What disease?. My take is that there are very few diseases. A handful. None of which is caused by a virus. No virus = no need for a vaxx.

 

Secondly; the white-coat narrative is that the immune system will take care of business once vaxxed. It learns. There is no evidence, not that I can find, that shows an 'immune' anything exists.

 

No virus! No immune system! No reason to have a vaccine.

 

Vaccines are anti nature. And anti-science.

 

 

[0ffshore360]

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

There are a couple of points that it's worth considering.

 

Firstly; a vaccine is often quoted as 'safe and 'effective'. Let's take a look. Forget safe; cause no medical intervention can be safe. But effective! Effective; the medical definition of which, has been often subtly changed. The mRNA vaxxes went from 100% safe and effective to 'might' lessen the symptoms 'if' the jabbed contracts the disease. In just 24 months. In truth; they have no idea.

 

That takes us to 'disease'. What disease?. My take is that there are very few diseases. A handful. None of which is caused by a virus. No virus = no need for a vaxx.

 

Secondly; the white-coat narrative is that the immune system will take care of business once vaxxed. It learns. There is no evidence, not that I can find, that shows an 'immune' anything exists.

 

No virus! No immune system! No reason to have a vaccine.

 

Vaccines are anti nature. And anti-science.

 

 

You choose not concentrate on the mRNA aspect which I have previously agreed is suspect  for reasons other than yours in real terms. 

You totally ignore the more pertinent questions as to position of counter medical science.

Pathogens are a part of  nature. It is only those that  life threaten the natural  functional health balance of our bodies that  serious medical intervention by way of pre-emptive vaccines  offers realistic degrees of protection.

That you "believe" in your personal opinion does not actually eliminate the opinion of others who do not deny the very clear evidence of diseases caused by pathogens which manifest themselves in symptoms indicating the progression and hopeful subsidence of the particular infection in cases where the pathogen is defeated by the immune system before it causes mortality. Often the positive outcome is assisted and accelerated by an appropriate vaccine.

Enjoy your existence  regardless.

 

 

[Stiddle Mump]

7 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

That you "believe" in your personal opinion does not actually eliminate the opinion of others who do not deny the very clear evidence of diseases caused by pathogens which manifest themselves in symptoms indicating

There is no evidence - anywhere, any time - that points to a pathogen causing a disease. You are making things up Sir.

[NoDisplayName]

4 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

(Reuters) - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention posted a report on Tuesday that said evidence does not support a link between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism or other neurodevelopmental disorders, ahead of a two-day meeting of an advisory panel later this week.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/us-cdc-report-shows-no-link-between-thimerosal-containing-vaccines-and-autism/ar-AA1HljK0

 

Was it published in an accredited peer-reviewed journal, or RFK Jr.'s new governmental in-house medicinal tabloid?

 

 

 

 

[gamb00ler]

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

There is no evidence - anywhere, any time - that points to a pathogen causing a disease. You are making things up Sir.

I would think that you know the very simple rules of logic that pertain to your statement.  It is nigh impossible to logically prove that a negative statement such as yours is correct.  Since it is an obvious violation of pure logic it MUST be discarded.

 

On what basis do you say that your post is true?  Have you seen ALL evidence?  I don't think so.  Since you definitely haven't seen ALL evidence, your statement is just more of the usual boastful ignorance for which you've become infamous.

[Stiddle Mump]

30 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

I would think that you know the very simple rules of logic that pertain to your statement.  It is nigh impossible to logically prove that a negative statement such as yours is correct.  Since it is an obvious violation of pure logic it MUST be discarded.

 

On what basis do you say that your post is true?  Have you seen ALL evidence?  I don't think so.  Since you definitely haven't seen ALL evidence, your statement is just more of the usual boastful ignorance for which you've become infamous.

 

No one has found the evidence. And not going to either. A virus is simply cell debris. Dead and inert.