Looks like Xi is finished

[morrobay]

No

On 6/29/2025 at 3:54 AM, theblether said:

The Guardian has misread this story. Xi is expected to resign in August. Senior Xi loyalist generals are being removed. 

 

China is over $50 trillion in debt. Chinese wealth is flooding overseas - capital flight is driving the country to bankruptcy. 

 

50$ trillion? 

 

[BLMFem]

8 hours ago, theblether said:

 

It requires intelligence. 

 

I bet you haven't stepped a foot in China in your life. 

 

What they say and what they mean are not the same thing..

 

It will be a cold day in he'll when the CCP.says- "the primary political officer is an utter wa*k." 

 

It will be today when I say - so are you for not comprehending reality 

Astounding insight!

[Hummin]

22 hours ago, theblether said:

 

Nonsense. Intel is showing that the CCP has turned against Xi for siding with Iran and Russia in particular and attracting the wrath of Trump - the tariff escalation was the end of Xi. 

 

The Xiaoping school of government is back on the agenda. Xi was set for life before he lost the plot and decided to side with, as one senior CCP official put it, "worthless countries."

 

Ignoring Trump smashing China out the park with tariffs is childish. Contrary to the BS left wing media reports - the CCP knew with their crushing debt situation they couldn't afford a trade war. 

If you believe all kind of strategic propaganda, anything is possible, just be careful for what you wish for, and not a clone of Trump takes over the Chinese party. That would be something, or what?

[Hawaiian]

On 6/28/2025 at 10:54 AM, theblether said:

The Guardian has misread this story. Xi is expected to resign in August. Senior Xi loyalist generals are being removed. 

 

China is over $50 trillion in debt. Chinese wealth is flooding overseas - capital flight is driving the country to bankruptcy. 

 

Cosying up to Iran and Russia has backfired. Trump's tariffs are causing serious disruption to industrial capacity. 

 

internal conflicts are soaring. Riots and industrial arson reported as companies cannot meet payroll. 

 

However, the true barometer of who is in power in China is military command. The excuse for this guy is corruption - the truth is the CCP cleaning house. 

 

Trump is going to destroy Chinese expansionism without firing a shot. The threat to Taiwan has gone. 

 

Top Chinese general ousted from body that oversees China’s military | China | The Guardian https://share.google/ouLuUgrT1JNWzeOmL

Most of what you say is true or actually occurring.  However, China's debt is roughly 1/3 of what you claim or $16.65 trillion.  Things don't look good for Xi and IMO his days are numbered.

[theblether]

2 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Most of what you say is true or actually occurring.  However, China's debt is roughly 1/3 of what you claim or $16.65 trillion.  Things don't look good for Xi and IMO his days are numbered.

 

AI Overview

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China's total debt is substantial, exceeding $50 trillion, with a significant portion owed by local governments and corporations. The national debt is estimated at 16.65 trillion U.S. dollars in 2024, with projections indicating a continued upward trend. This debt represents a large percentage of China's GDP, with local government debt in particular raising concerns about potential financial instability. 

[annotator]

3 hours ago, theblether said:

 

AI Overview

+2

China's total debt is substantial, exceeding $50 trillion, with a significant portion owed by local governments and corporations. The national debt is estimated at 16.65 trillion U.S. dollars in 2024, with projections indicating a continued upward trend. This debt represents a large percentage of China's GDP, with local government debt in particular raising concerns about potential financial instability. 

What's America's total debt?

[angryguy]

36 minutes ago, annotator said:

What's America's total debt?

Uh oh..seems the america first guy isnt really for america is he

[annotator]

24 minutes ago, angryguy said:

Uh oh..seems the america first guy isnt really for america is he

You don't think that the US debt is a problem? You think national bankruptcy is a good way to go? Better sharpen your math skills, buddy!

[Yellowtail]

On 6/29/2025 at 4:34 PM, candide said:

It's a possible explanations. There may be other explanations.

 

"However, much of the speculation about Xi’s political misfortunes relies on unsubstantiated rumors or glaring ignorance of context. In some cases, a cursory look at the so-called “signs” reveals them to be entirely normal occurrences. In other cases, there are simpler and more convincing explanations for developments regarded as unusual. This article addresses some of the oft-repeated and less speculative arguments and evidence brought up by those who buy into the Xi “losing power” narrative."

https://sinoinsider.com/2025/06/xi-is-losing-power-or-is-he/

 

That's a hoot: 

 

"Founded in 2017, SinoInsider is a China political risk consultancy based in New York. We have an unparalleled track record in predicting Chinese Communist Party elite politics. Our accurate forecasting and authoritative analysis are derived from a unique political risk assessment model."

[Yellowtail]

I visited China several times about 20 years ago with our Hong Kong rep looking for a location for a joint venture. 

 

The volume of new construction was amazing, and the amount of vacant residential, commercial and industrial properties was astounding. 

 

We went through one huge industrial park, row after row of buildings, all apparently vacant except one, and it was a about a 10,000m^2 plant, with about twenty guys sitting on the floor, doing what looked like recycling electronic cr*p. 

 

Some years later, I visited an aluminum extruder as a protentional new supplier. They were using three times the labor our Thailand supplier uses, and our Thailand supplier uses twice the labor a US plant would use, and the Chinese conversion cost was still significantly less than what our Thai supplier charged. 

 

I am amazed China has lasted this long. 

[annotator]

Always a bad idea to indulge wishful thinking about your enemies. And make no mistake about it, China is the enemy and it's gunning for us. Foolish to expend our military resources on interminable mideast conflicts.

 

[annotator]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I visited China several times about 20 years ago with our Hong Kong rep looking for a location for a joint venture. 

 

The volume of new construction was amazing, and the amount of vacant residential, commercial and industrial properties was astounding. 

 

We went through one huge industrial park, row after row of buildings, all apparently vacant except one, and it was a about a 10,000m^2 plant, with about twenty guys sitting on the floor, doing what looked like recycling electronic cr*p. 

 

Some years later, I visited an aluminum extruder as a protentional new supplier. They were using three times the labor our Thailand supplier uses, and our Thailand supplier uses twice the labor a US plant would use, and the Chinese conversion cost was still significantly less than what our Thai supplier charged. 

 

I am amazed China has lasted this long. 

You're claiming that Chinese manufacturing is a source of weakness for China? Next you'll be tellling us that its ongoing real estate disaster is a source of strength. Too funny.

[Yellowtail]

9 minutes ago, annotator said:

You're claiming that Chinese manufacturing is a source of weakness for China? Next you'll be tellling us that its ongoing real estate disaster is a source of strength. Too funny.

I am not at all claiming that. I am claiming that continuing to build new properties when mile after mile of existing properties is vacant make little sense, as does used five times the labor you need. 

 

Labor may be cheap, but it is not free. They were selling us aluminum extrusion at below their cost. That is just not sustainable. 

[annotator]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

I am not at all claiming that. I am claiming that continuing to build new properties when mile after mile of existing properties is vacant make little sense, as does used five times the labor you need. 

 

Labor may be cheap, but it is not free. They were selling us aluminum extrusion at below their cost. That is just not sustainable. 

Most of the cost in smelting aluminum has to do with the cost of electricity. Not labor. That's why it's so much cheaper for Canada to make aluminum than it is in the US,