Medicare/Medicaid reason for retirees repatriation will soon be degraded

[Jingthing]

Regarding Trump's big bill, he appears to now have the votes in the senate to pass it soon.

The bill that will probably pass includes MASSIVE cuts to both Medicaid and Medicare.

Admittedly the cuts to Medicaid will be the more severe but it was promised that Medicare wouldn't be touched, but that turns out to be a BIG LIE.

In my opinion, the main reason long term retired American expats repatriate is because of declining health and to take advantage of Medicare/Medicaid benefits.

But with the probably imminent bill passage, both will be significantly reduced, it seems to me that reason to repatriate to the US will become less compelling especially considering all the other economic hits the repatriated face.

BTW -- you may think you're "too rich" to ever worry about Medicaid but what often happens is that people end up spending down and needing long term care paid by Medicaid. You probably can't afford privately paid long term care.

 

 

[novacova]

Wait and see exactly what transpires with the final product of the bill.

[Jingthing]

Just now, novacova said:

Wait and see exactly what transpires with the final product of the bill.

I haven't heard word about softening those medical cuts. In fact there are senators trying to make the cuts even harsher.

[John Drake]

People become radicalized when they cannot afford 1) a place to live 2) health care and 3) opportunities for a decent education. It's practically past the point of return in all three of those categories. Gutting medicare/medicaid could be the last straw. Mortgages/home insurance/property taxes already forcing people out of their homes. Student loans putting people in debt for the rest of their lives. And now those lives themselves being threatened with medical facility closures, a lack of access, and spiraling costs. All to fund tax cuts for billionaires. It is beyond stupid for America's rulers to push people into such extreme conditions. In the past the formula for American success was built upon 1) cheap land and 2) high demand for labor/salaries. That's gone, now.

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Regarding Trump's big bill, he appears to now have the votes in the senate to pass it soon.

The bill that will probably pass includes MASSIVE cuts to both Medicaid and Medicare.

Admittedly the cuts to Medicaid will be the more severe but it was promised that Medicare wouldn't be touched, but that turns out to be a BIG LIE.

In my opinion, the main reason long term retired American expats repatriate is because of declining health and to take advantage of Medicare/Medicaid benefits.

But with the probably imminent bill passage, both will be significantly reduced, it seems to me that reason to repatriate to the US will become less compelling especially considering all the other economic hits the repatriated face.

BTW -- you may think you're "too rich" to ever worry about Medicaid but what often happens is that people end up spending down and needing long term care paid by Medicaid. You probably can't afford privately paid long term care.

 

 

I don't often comments on emoji responses, but I'm really wondering why I got even one (so far) down vote on this post.

 

What's the problem?

 

You don't believe the bill includes massive cuts to Medicaid and Medicare?

 

You don't like to hear anything that reflects badly on Trump's policies even if they are his policies accurately represented?

 

You're mad I didn't call it the big "beautiful" bill? I was tempted to call it the big ugly bill which is my opinion, but I restrained myself for the sake of discussion of a bipartisan topic. I also didn't mention the obvious reason for these cuts -- to help fund cutting taxes for the RICHEST Americans which is of course immoral and obscene.

 

You don't think people in declining health sometimes repatriate for Medicare/Medicaid?

 

 

[KhunLA]

"The bill that will probably pass includes MASSIVE cuts to both Medicaid and Medicare"

 

MASSIVE ...  Not seeing anything MASSIVE happening here:

 

https://www.medicarerights.org/medicare-watch/2025/06/26/senate-reconciliation-bill-would-increase-financial-hardships-for-medicare-enrollees

 

[Jingthing]

44 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

"The bill that will probably pass includes MASSIVE cuts to both Medicaid and Medicare"

 

MASSIVE ...  Not seeing anything MASSIVE happening here:

 

https://www.medicarerights.org/medicare-watch/2025/06/26/senate-reconciliation-bill-would-increase-financial-hardships-for-medicare-enrollees

 

Timed required cuts every year to Medicare.

Reduction in services.

Medicaid cuts as stated much bigger.

ACA too.

 

 

 

[ricklev]

I don't understand why it is not emphasized more that when poor people lose their health care they use emergency rooms for health care at a horrendous cost.  Do the Republican politicians have the balls to let people die in the streets?  I mean that is what they believe should happen to the losers, but it is not politically feasable.  So what happens when hospital emergency rooms function as health insurance?   The answer is pretty obvious if you think about it.