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Macron Blames Brexit for Channel Migrant Surge as UK-French Deal Faces Turmoil

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6 hours ago, ericbj said:

 

Like it or not, the differences between different 'races' are not merely cultural but also physiological.  And not merely differences of outward appearance (of genetic origin) but also internal.  E.g.  Asians are said to have longer, thinner intestines than Europeans.

Of course these differences can be attributed to differences of environment over many generations.  But such differences of environment, including climate, food, activities, have an impact upon the genes.

 

There are also 'races' within animal species, although we tend to refer to them as breeds.

 

Finally, if there exists only one human race, what is the meaning of 'racism'?

Is anti-racism a figment of our imagination?

 

 

For once I looked at wiki. The definitions for race and reasonings given for same seem as close to fair as any:

 

Race is a categorization of humans based on shared physical or social qualities into groups generally viewed as distinct within a given society.[1] The term came into common usage during the 16th century, when it was used to refer to groups of various kinds, including those characterized by close kinship relations.[2] By the 17th century, the term began to refer to physical (phenotypical) traits, and then later to national affiliations. Modern science regards race as a social construct, an identity which is assigned based on rules made by society.[3][4][5] While partly based on physical similarities within groups, race does not have an inherent physical or biological meaning.[1][6][7] The concept of race is foundational to racism, the belief that humans can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_categorization)

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6 hours ago, Hummin said:

 

 

Racism is alive out of many reasons and also valid reasons if youbask me. Common sense to be racists in the term of being sceptical and afraid other people from different cultures. Historically seen proved that. 

 

When it comes to genetics, our dna can make our differences by time just by changing food and daily environment. Look at Hong Kong Chinese, tall as many Dutch people, and I see Bangkok thais growing as well, and also get more light skin color. 

 

And since im not a scientist, I can only rely on science.

 

Africa got the tallest pople, the shortest people, the most intelligent on thos planet because their dna is the most diverse on the planet.

 

 

 

 

 

His first groups seemed to be all black Africans, from different parts, but he inferred, by visual reference to pyramids, that the Egyptians were the most intelligent, at least at that time. However, the pharaohs are widely believed to have been of various ethnicities and a mix of races, many with Near Eastern and Arabian blood. It looks like the jury is still out on this.  

3 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

You wont see this on main british TV.

 

 

 

GB News is not considered acceptable to them on pedestals.

2 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

Stopping 30,000 immigrants risking their lives coming on a boat is not going to improve your life. If it's crap, it will be crap once they've stopped coming. 

 

Governments want you to blame someone else for your problem and not them. Always the same old story, and thick gammons always fall for it. 

 

Why don't you like muslims by the way? Have you bad experiences?

 

I've met plenty of Christian idiots, met hindu idiots, and met muslims idiots. You get idiots everywhere. The vast majority however are just trying to get on with life. Most muslim people i know are walking on egg shells these days - if there is any incident on TV or terror act they wait with fear incase it's one of them, and the ensuing media onslaught, racists turning up. WHen it's often a  white guy they feel relieved (and it becomes a non story). 

 

There are some things we could learn from the way muslims live - namely wife tends to stay at home and raise the children (not advocating this), but it would be a solution to the population issue you keep bringing up, in that western cultures are now having women go out and work. THe population in islamic countries is going through the roof.  Food is amazing. I love Turkish, arab, spicy indian food all over the UK. It's the best things about going there. They also tend to have a very strong family unit, and the community look after one another. We these days western cultures throw our family, parents in the bin as we are so determined to get to some mythic lifestyle. 

 

If you ask me if i want to visit white majority Sunderland where 90% of people are white, or a mixed city like Manchester - i'd go Manchester everytime.

 

There are things we can learn from too. 

 

 

 

 

My my, you've met an awful lot of idiots. You must be an expert in idiocy then.

2 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

 

We cannot leave the ICJ due to the Irish peace process. America, which was heavily involved in that process, would not allow us either. That war was far more destructive than 30,000 migrants coming on a boat - most people don't remember these incidents now, but go study up. 

 

Farage and co know this. They wouldn't leave this agreement either. 

 

That agreement needs rewriting. The Irish people might like that idea given their own acute immigration woes now,

15 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

His first groups seemed to be all black Africans, from different parts, but he inferred, by visual reference to pyramids, that the Egyptians were the most intelligent, at least at that time. However, the pharaohs are widely believed to have been of various ethnicities and a mix of races, many with Near Eastern and Arabian blood. It looks like the jury is still out on this.  

He said Africans is the most diverse population, and as far I know Egyptians lives in Africa, with a mix from neighboring countries. 

 

He didnt mention one word about being black or not. 

 

What you going to say about Americans? They are Europeans with a mix of all continents? But they lives in America. Still Africa have more diversity for now

2 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

Before Brexit you could return most of these boats back to France. It's only since Brexit that this has become an issue. 

 

Even the conservative MP Chris Philips for immigration said as much. 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tories-brexit-small-boats-asylum-philp-b2751177.html

 

 

No. Before Brexit these boats were very few. The migrants used trucks. No customs then. Easy.

2 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

 

Unfortunately for gammons, media and racists it's become an issue to beat the government with. They have not controlled the narrative on the subject. 

 

He does indeed like he has no clue on how to address this issue. 

 

He hasn't helped matters by coming out with a half baked Enoch Powell speech. Learnt nothing from the Tories. His one solution might have been to embrace immigration and how we are a compassionate nation - and make the argument, that the numbers crossing are very small. 

 

He can also control legal immigration. But this will them harm the economy in the short term. 

 

 

 

Waffles for breakfast again?

12 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Few and far between but might not know that. 

 

That is probably because most of these protests are local and not considered sufficiently newsworthy to be broadcast nationally but you probably know that.

3 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

No. Before Brexit these boats were very few. The migrants used trucks. No customs then. Easy.

 

And when you caught them you sent them straight back. Now we have to process them. 

2 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

This what happens when you allow a hotel in your town to be used for migrants. This was witheld from most news reports I wonder why?

 

 

Imported kiddy fiddlers, as if there weren't enough before. Insane.

32 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

His first groups seemed to be all black Africans, from different parts, but he inferred, by visual reference to pyramids, that the Egyptians were the most intelligent, at least at that time. However, the pharaohs are widely believed to have been of various ethnicities and a mix of races, many with Near Eastern and Arabian blood. It looks like the jury is still out on this.  

So glad you both enjoy my work.

6 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

And when you caught them you sent them straight back. Now we have to process them. 

 

Not so. Same problem, different year.

7 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Imported kiddy fiddlers, as if there weren't enough before. Insane.

 

 

You got personal experience of something happening to you ?

9 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

That is probably because most of these protests are local and not considered sufficiently newsworthy to be broadcast nationally but you probably know that.

 

They are definitely newsworthy to the many people living close to these migrant bases.

On 7/12/2025 at 8:57 AM, frank83628 said:

be, France don't care about the crossings, it get rid of them, save france money and puts the burden on the UK.

 

Should get the Rwanda flights back up n running, 

Why migrants are so crazy to go to England ? They have a sole obsession ; England 

they go to France only to go to Calais and then England 

Just now, DonniePeverley said:

 

 

You got personal experience of something happening to you ?

 

What do you mean by that??

12 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

But let's be real - 30,000 people coming on a boat is nothing really, when you think nearly 1 million came leagally a few years ago. It just makes for headlines. 

 

Those 30,000 people coming on a boat (over a population of 70 million) is not the reason your life is crap. 

Thousands of undocumented young men with no background checks possible, from countries with vastly different standards and attitudes to women and children, able to loiter around UK streets and schools among British women and children. And the UK tax payer is funding this to the tune of £4,000,000 PER DAY. 

That's why people want the boats stopped! 

 

You're delusional if you think it's just about comparing legal to illegal migration numbers. Or you're trolling. 

6 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

They are definitely newsworthy to the many people living close to these migrant bases.

 

I'm sure they are. It's called local news.

5 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Thousands of undocumented young men with no background checks possible, from countries with vastly different standards and attitudes to women and children, able to loiter around UK streets and schools among British women and children. And the UK tax payer is funding this to the tune of £4,000,000 PER DAY. 

That's why people want the boats stopped! 

 

You're delusional if you think it's just about comparing legal to illegal migration numbers. Or you're trolling. 

 

 

The UK spends 252 billion on the NHS. If your figure of 4 million a day is even true (which i doubt) then that's about 0.7% of the NHS budget. 

 

Hardly a game changer. Process them quicker, allow them to get some jobs, etc 

 

As i say, it's not going to change your life.

 

The UK is full of waste. They spent 300 million on a pointless fascade for a railway station in Sunderland, which changed nothing. The spending is out of control up and down the country. 

 

 

12 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

 

The UK is full of waste. They spent 300 million on a pointless fascade for a railway station in Sunderland, which changed nothing. The spending is out of control up and down the country. 

 

 


Probably around £90 billion wasted on HS2 which will shave about 15-20 minutes off a 215kms journey from London to Birmingham and nothing else.

Should have been finished in 2026 but latest estimates are closer to 2037. Absolutely shocking mismanagement and waste from the Tories.  Over 20 years to build it......and for what?  

In the time since it was approved until now China has built upwards of 35,000 kms of high speed rail. And by the time it'll be finished they'll have built maybe 60,000kms.  HS2 will be 215kms. It's a joke. And it costs China on average (including tunnels and viaducts) around £18m per km. But we are spending £90b for 215kms, about £418m per km, or about £4.5 billion per minute saved. How utterly shameful.

Why are the anti immigration people not moaning about that colossal waste of money? Why is it only the money spent on hotels which seems to bother them?

39 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

I'm sure they are. It's called local news.

 

And it's happening all over the country, as in nationally.

5 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:


Probably around £90 billion wasted on HS2 which will shave about 15-20 minutes off a 215kms journey from London to Birmingham and nothing else.

Should have been finished in 2026 but latest estimates are closer to 2037. Absolutely shocking mismanagement and waste from the Tories.  Over 20 years to build it......and for what?  

In the time since it was approved until now China has built upwards of 35,000 kms of high speed rail. And by the time it'll be finished they'll have built maybe 60,000kms.  HS2 will be 215kms. It's a joke. And it costs China on average (including tunnels and viaducts) around £18m per km. But we are spending £90b for 215kms, about £418m per km, or about £4.5 billion per minute saved. How utterly shameful.

Why are the anti immigration people not moaning about that colossal waste of money? Why is it only the money spent on hotels which seems to bother them?

 

 

Which one of you is Mini Me?

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

And it's happening all over the country, as in nationally.

 

When the protests happened nationwide this time last year, they were headline news across the media, including the BBC 6 o'clock and 10 o'clock news bulletins. An isolated local protest in Epping - which is what the OP posted - is just that: a local protest.

37 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

 

The UK spends 252 billion on the NHS. If your figure of 4 million a day is even true (which i doubt) then that's about 0.7% of the NHS budget. 

 

Hardly a game changer. Process them quicker, allow them to get some jobs, etc 

 

As i say, it's not going to change your life.

 

The UK is full of waste. They spent 300 million on a pointless fascade for a railway station in Sunderland, which changed nothing. The spending is out of control up and down the country. 

 

 

 

Notable you did not comment regarding main point that CG1 makes, which is the danger to women and children. The money is an issue but not the main concern, I think.

8 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Notable you did not comment regarding main point that CG1 makes, which is the danger to women and children. The money is an issue but not the main concern, I think.

Quite a few of his responses have swerved the issue of the dangers to women and children. Even making light of it. Makes you wonder what sort of a person he is. 

1 minute ago, RayC said:

 

When the protests happened nationwide this time last year, they were headline news across the media, including the BBC 6 o'clock and 10 o'clock news bulletins. An isolated local protest in Epping - which is what the OP posted - is just that: a local protest.

 

The problem that you refer to is the Southport (terror) incident I think.

 

The protests and aggravated problems nationwide concerning the settlement of immigrants are different. They have not been simultaneous but they are serious enough to warrant national coverage. Families spread throughout the country get this news directly from kin, and they worry about it. It is a national concern now. 

2 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Quite a few of his responses have swerved the issue of the dangers to women and children. Even making light of it. Makes you wonder what sort of a person he is. 

 

Yup. Can't answer a straight question either. 

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