Tommy Robinson love him or Hate him.

[jori123]

52 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Certainly — here’s a calm, fact-based rebuttal that addresses the main claims while avoiding inflammatory language and keeping a balanced tone:

Rebuttal to Claims About Tommy Robinson

 

While Tommy Robinson (Stephen Yaxley-Lennon) has long claimed to be a whistleblower on issues related to Islam and grooming gangs, it’s important to separate legitimate concerns about public safety from misinformation, exaggeration, and politically motivated narratives.

He founded the EDL — a group widely condemned for far-right extremism, street violence, and Islamophobic rhetoric. This wasn’t simply a case of “warning about radicalisation”; it was an organised movement that inflamed tensions and made life worse for many peaceful British Muslims.

 

Muslim mayors?

 

This is misleading. In a democracy, mayors are elected by voters of all backgrounds. Sadiq Khan, for example, was voted in by millions of Londoners, not because he is Muslim, but because of his policies and political platform. Religion alone does not dictate governance, and suggesting otherwise veers into conspiracy thinking.

 

Mosques and radicalisation

 

While a small number of individuals have been linked to extremist preaching in certain mosques (especially in the 2000s), the vast majority of UK mosques are peaceful community centres. The UK security services have prosecuted extremists, including within religious settings, without relying on Robinson’s help or approval.

 

Prisons “controlled” by radical Muslims

 

There are indeed concerns about radicalisation in prisons. But these are complex problems managed by the Ministry of Justice and counterterrorism units, not revelations unique to Tommy Robinson. His version tends to over-simplify and racialise a broader criminal justice issue.

 

He was “silenced”?

 

No. Tommy Robinson has had an enormous platform — books, social media, interviews, speeches, foreign backers. When he was jailed, it was for contempt of court, not his opinions. He broke the law by prejudicing ongoing trials, risking justice for actual victims. That’s not bravery — it’s recklessness.

 

“Evidence” and secret dossiers

 

These are often referenced but never produced in a credible, legally actionable form. Grooming gang scandals have been rightly exposed — by journalists, police, and survivors, not just Robinson. Suggesting he alone uncovered these crimes erases the real bravery of victims and investigative reporters.

 

Support from Elon Musk?

 

No credible public record confirms that Elon Musk offered to pay Robinson’s court costs. This is likely internet myth-making.

In summary: While it’s valid to want accountability in policing, immigration, or community integration, Tommy Robinson is not a trustworthy advocate. He frequently mixes truth with distortion, making problems seem exclusively “Islamic” when they are far more nuanced. This fuels division, not solutions.

 

Real change comes from evidence-based policy, cross-community dialogue, and the rule of law — not martyrdom narratives and culture war posturing.

 

Real change? Yes Ill agree,its coming,next election or even sooner as events unfold as they are doing now.  Evidence based ? You mean Lee Rigby..2017 Westminster attacks...London Bridge attack..Parson Green attack...Manchester Victoria Stabbings.. Manchester Arena 50 kids slaughtered..  7/7 another 50 odd slaughtered..Glasgow airport attack..David Amess MP killing...Liverpool womens hospital attempted bombing (but nutcase blew himself up thankfully)..2020 Reading stabbings...it goes on and on,of course not Inc the attempted and foiled that are countless,all commited by Muslims,not getting their own way and attempted influencing by killings,just likened to Tommy ,in a way, his word of mouth,greater than the sword. Robinson is a magnificent influencer ,but not a political foe............and of course Southport,killings of 3 small kids,not obv by Muslims,but inspired by them,they are filth

[Bday Prang]

15 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Why do people even care what a convicted criminal and admitted thug thinks?

 

By the lack of response to this thread it would seem no one does, and now I regret posting!

            Sure he has had a colourful past and he doesn't deny it,   people can change though.   People should be careful what they believe about him. especially if ones source of info is mainstream media.     His willingness to mention the unmentionable and expose some uncomfortable truths has made him very unpopular with the authorities, he has become a state sanctioned figure of hate and the victim of a disgusting campaign to discredit him.

            Its open season on him and the media have been primed accordingly and pretty much given a free pass to print whatever they want as long as it puts him in a bad light

            Just like trump , if he ended world famine and poverty. and saved the life of drowning children he would receive no credit and would continue to be attacked

            Constant allegations of racism which just are not true, and all the anti muslim accusations never mention that it is illegal muslim immigrants and the muslim grooming gangs along with the islamist terrorists  that he squares up to not muslims generally   But we can't criticise these people openly in the UK  they are protected

             Try watching some of the more objective interviews with him, he is nothing like how msm portray him

[Bday Prang]

14 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

And yet....

 

https://hopenothate.org.uk/2022/01/11/tommy-robinson-is-a-hypocrite-when-it-comes-to-opposing-child-sexual-exploitation/

"hope not hate"    lol   enough said,  would you believe an article about Elon Musk that was written in "Socialist worker" or a similar hard left publication ?    No of course not

[BarraMarra]

He did form the EDL and admitted it nothing to hide. He walked away because he saw the thug elements like the BMP,  National Front, he saw what was creeping in and he did not want to be part of it, but you lot on here won't accept it. You will trot out the old He was this he was that nonsense. What you don't like to hear is that he saw what the future of the UK will become if it was not prevented there and then. He was called a Racist a Neo Nazi, and a campaign began to silence him for going against the establishment. He made a film called " Silenced " which I suggest you watch, then come back on here, you will be able to screen it on a US platform due to being it banned here in the UK. While in Prison he was told by the Authorities to delete it or any court appeal will be out of the Window. In the end he was forced to delete it for the sake of his family. On the day of his release on appeal two reporters from the daily Mail accused him of threatening them with an Article they published about him. He could be brought back to Prison immediatly because he was on licence. Off course the MSM jumped on this but what they didn't report was why Tommy went after them. These two scumbag reporters went all the way to Turkey and tracked the hotel down where Tommy was on holiday with his family and the headline read " We found tommy Robinson hiding out in his hotel planning the riots that were ongoing in the UK and hiding away from his upcoming court case we ( The Daily Mail ) tracked him to to his hidaway hotel.  The local press knew he was going on Holiday in Turkey so there was no tracking him down. Tommy Robinson traced these two reporters down and asked them why did you print these lies about me, of course the perfect excuse to make a case of threats and intimidation against the reporters. Another lie fabricated by the BBC top Investigating programme called Panorama deliberatly tried to set up a sting opporation to Smear Tommy Robinson but an insider let it be known what Panorama were going to do. Tommy sent a member undercover  for a supposed interview to spread lies about him with a concealed camera and a Mic he turned the tables by turning up with a camera crew and exposed the whole pack of lies on Air. Panorama was found out paying people to make up stories. The presenter surprisingly took early Retirement. I know its a long post but bare with it and read it fully. This is what happens when you go against the Establishment.

[hotandsticky]

4 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

He did form the EDL and admitted it nothing to hide. He walked away because he saw the thug elements like the BMP,  National Front, he saw what was creeping in and he did not want to part of that, but you lot on here won't accept it and trot out the old He was this he was that nonsense. What you don't like to hear is that he saw what the future of the UK will become if it was not prevented there and then. He was called a Racist a Neo Nazi, and a campaign began to silence him for going against the establishment. He made a film called " Silenced " which I suggest you watch it then come back on here, you will be able to screen it due to being it banned here in the UK. While in Prison he was told by the Authorities to delete it or any court appeal will be out of the Window in the end he had to delete it for the sake of his family. On the day of his release on appeal two reporters from the daily Mail accused him of threatening them with an Article they published about him. He could be brought back to Prison immediatly because he was on licence. Off course the MSM jumped on this but what they didn't report was why Tommy went after them. These two scumbag reporters went all the way to Turkey to turkey tracked the hotel down where Tommy was on holiday with his family and the headline read " We found tommy Robinson hiding out in his hotel planning the riots that were ongoing in the UK and hiding away from his upcoming court case we ( The Daily Mail ) tracked him to to his hidaway hotel.  The local press knew he was going on Holiday in Turkey so there was no tracking him down. Tommy Robinson Traced these two reporters down and asked them why did you print these lies of course the perfecy excuse to make a case of threats and intimidation against the reporters. Another lie fabricated by the BBC top Investigating programme called Panorama deliberatly tried to set up a sting opporation to Smear Tommy Robinson but an insider let it be known what Panorama were going to do. Tommy sent a member undercover  for a supposed interview to spread lies about him with a concealed camera and a Mic he turned the tables by turning up with a camera crew and exposed the whole pack of lies Panorama was found out paying people to make up stories. The presenter surprisingly took early Retirement. I know its a long post but bare with it and read it fully. 

 

 

You really are a fully paid up Fan Boy, aren't you.

 

It is a pity that Yaxley-Lennon decided to position himself as a self-styled "Far right activist" because that just pushes him away from mainstream politics - the only place where anything can be achieved. As a consequence a lot of the good stuff he did achieves nothing. Farage has discovered how to become more of a statesman; and therefore electable  -  something "Tommy" is not capable of.

 

 

[BarraMarra]

9 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

You really are a fully paid up Fan Boy, aren't you.

 

It is a pity that Yaxley-Lennon decided to position himself as a self-styled "Far right activist" because that just pushes him away from mainstream politics - the only place where anything can be achieved. As a consequence a lot of the good stuff he did achieves nothing. Farage has discovered how to become more of a statesman; and therefore electable  -  something "Tommy" is not capable of.

 

 

Are you one of Starmers " Fan Boy's " hotnsticky. He called all the rioters after the Southport riots Right wing thugs too. You do know many got locked up for demonstating against the illegals coming into the country dont you ? were they all far right Activist's ?

[hotandsticky]

1 minute ago, BarraMarra said:

Are you one of Starmers " Fan Boy's " hotnsticky. He called all the rioters after the Southport riots Right wing thugs too. You do know many got locked up for demonstating against the illegals coming into the country dont you ? were they all far right Activist's ?

 

 

There ya go.....fitting the stereotype of a right wing thug by stereotyping other people.

 

 

[BarraMarra]

8 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

There ya go.....fitting the stereotype of a right wing thug by stereotyping other people.

 

 

Great deflection 100% Effort.

[quake]

Wasn't a big fan of Tommy.

But the uk, needs the likes of Tommy now.

To many pansies, have let the uk down very bad.

Go. Go, Tommy Robinson. 

We  you. 

 

[blaze master]

6 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

UK HM Revenue & Customs..........i.e where in the world do you live?

 

Canada me from.

[brewsterbudgen]

Even Nigel Farage doesn't want anything to do with him and won't let him near Reform UK.

[Will B Good]

8 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Even Nigel Farage doesn't want anything to do with him and won't let him near Reform UK.

 

 

You have to admit, that is pretty damning.

 

Good point, well made.

[quake]

24 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Even Nigel Farage doesn't want anything to do with him and won't let him near Reform UK.

 

Well he can't,  can he. Tommy has criminal convictions , so it will never fit.

But we need the likes of tommy to nip at the heels of all the lefty do-gooders.

With out the likes of Tommy,

Do you think we would ever have had,

The now on going investigation of the Pakistani  Muslim rape gangs in the uk.

 

[Will B Good]

7 minutes ago, quake said:

 

Well he can't,  can he. Tommy has crim convictions , so it will never fit.

But we need the likes of tommy to nip at the hells of all the lefty do-gooders.

With out the likes of Tommy,

Do you think we would ever have had,

The now on going investigation of the Pakistani  Muslim rape gangs in the uk.

 

 

Translated into English for our readers.......

 

Whilst it’s true that Tommy Robinson’s criminal convictions may disqualify him from holding public office, figures like him have played a role in drawing attention to issues that might otherwise have been overlooked.

 

Regardless of one’s opinion of his methods or rhetoric, it’s arguable that without individuals willing to challenge mainstream narratives, there may not have been as much public pressure to investigate serious matters — such as the grooming gangs involving predominantly Pakistani Muslim men in parts of the UK.

[quake]

7 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Translated into English for our readers.

 

Thanks. 

[BarraMarra]

1 hour ago, quake said:

 

Well he can't,  can he. Tommy has criminal convictions , so it will never fit.

But we need the likes of tommy to nip at the heels of all the lefty do-gooders.

With out the likes of Tommy,

Do you think we would ever have had,

The now on going investigation of the Pakistani  Muslim rape gangs in the uk.

 

Correct Quake the Government and the Previous Goverment would still be denying it.

[BarraMarra]

Farage and Reform are a new party so they need to be squeeky clean with Starmer just waiting to for them to slip up or have a member bringing bad news on them. I bet he would love to have Tommy on Board with all the Bullets he has loaded against the Government and they know the damage he is going to do. You have already seen Starmers attempts to smear Farage and reform but its backfired and just made Reform Stronger.

[connda]

Tommy who?  

[BarraMarra]

Tommy Cooper.

[proton]

3 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Even Nigel Farage doesn't want anything to do with him and won't let him near Reform UK.

 

Farage just wants yes men around him, he is not good at working with other people

[proton]

On 7/18/2025 at 7:43 PM, brewsterbudgen said:

Why do people even care what a convicted criminal and admitted thug thinks?

 

By the lack of response to this thread it would seem no one does, and now I regret posting!

 

Jesus was a convicted criminal, Muhammad who committed countless crimes was not

[BarraMarra]

4 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Farage just wants yes men around him, he is not good at working with other people

Is that why his party is winning all the Polls ? He must be good at something, maybe its his answer to rid the illegal freeloaders coming across the Channel. Or maybe keeping the Millions of pounds given out in Foreighn aid while our goverment watches our own going to Foodbanks for food.

[BarraMarra]

20 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Jesus was a convicted criminal, Muhammad who committed countless crimes was not

Be carefull proton name calling Muhamad could get you beheaded in certain country's.

[josephbloggs]

13 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Farage and Reform are a new party so they need to be squeeky clean with Starmer just waiting to for them to slip up or have a member bringing bad news on them. I bet he would love to have Tommy on Board with all the Bullets he has loaded against the Government and they know the damage he is going to do. You have already seen Starmers attempts to smear Farage and reform but its backfired and just made Reform Stronger.

Squeaky clean. I am sure he didn't mean to do 9/11.

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/reform-uk-councillor-pen-pal-10337304

[quake]

9 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Squeaky clean. I am sure he didn't mean to do 9/11.

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/reform-uk-councillor-pen-pal-10337304

 

Oh dear, that's not so good.

That will hang around, like a bad fart.

[josephbloggs]

15 hours ago, quake said:

 

Well he can't,  can he. Tommy has criminal convictions , so it will never fit.

But we need the likes of tommy to nip at the heels of all the lefty do-gooders.

With out the likes of Tommy,

Do you think we would ever have had,

The now on going investigation of the Pakistani  Muslim rape gangs in the uk.

 

Brainwashed.

The truth is he had NOTHING to do with exposing the grooming gangs. Nothing. Nothing at all. He just exploited it for his own publicity, and people like you fell for it and many of you donated to him and he thanks you very muchly. He hasn't exposed a single paedophile. He hasn't exposed a single grooming gang. He has only ever regurgitated what was already exposed by others way before he ever knew anything about it.

What happened in Rotherham, Rochdale, and Telford were first brought to light through the efforts of local journalists, whistle-blowers, survivors, and independent inquiries, not Yaxley-Lennon.

In the early 2010 Andrew Norfolk wrote national stories on them in The Times (you might have heard of it - it's a national newspaper). Not Yaxley-Lennon. He hadn't found this bandwagon in 2010.  

Graham Blackburn and Robert Jackson were convicted in 2010 and 2013 for being part of grooming gangs in Stockport with their Muslim friends and raping young girls (9-11 years old) over a period of years after rendering them practically unconscious with drink and drugs. Yaxley-Lennon has been very vocal about these two disgusting humans and played a huge part in their convictions. Oh wait, no he has never mentioned them, there must be something wrong.....perhaps because they are white and have English names? And he hadn't found his deep emotional concern for the children then, that came later.

Sammy Woodhouse actually played a major role in exposing the Muslim grooming gangs. She was groomed by these gangs, abused, and actually helped bring it to light. She did actual brave stuff. You would think she would praise anyone who helped as she was abused herself and suffered immensely and did all she could to help bring them down, but funnily enough she said Yaxley-Lennon was jumping on the bandwagon and "taking credit for things he hadn't done." She said "he didn't expose it" and was being "disrespectful."

You have been duped by a liar, a grifter, and a racist thug.

Let's not forget that the man who cares so deeply about the children and the victims almost called their trial to collapse with his self serving live streaming from court even after being warned. It could easily have caused a mistrial and - at the very least - would have put the victims through the pain and suffering of giving evidence again. Luckily he was jailed before he could completely wreck the trial.

Oh, and also let's not forget he publicly defended his white friends for child related convictions. Leigh MacMillan (three counts of indecent assault, two of indecency with a child, and one of attempted rape) was his good friend, and Yaxely-Lennon said he had been "stitched up". And Stephen Price, another good friend and co-founder of the EDL was convicted for having indecent images of children on his computer - in other words child porn. Yaxley-Lennon, true to his righteous beliefs, immediately condemned him and expelled him from the EDL and went public with his condemnation. Oh wait, no, sorry, he didn't. He actually publicly defended him even after his conviction and led protests for his release. He finally caved in after public pressure and condemned him but then lied that he was ever a member of the EDL. 

https://hopenothate.org.uk/2022/01/11/tommy-robinson-is-a-hypocrite-when-it-comes-to-opposing-child-sexual-exploitation/



There is a list of maybe 10-15 of his chums and associates who have been found guilty of child offences including child rape. He hasn't spoken out against a single one of them. I can provide a list if you like, but this post is long enough already. I could go on for ages about all his hypocrisy, bandwagon jumping, and deceit. Only to say that people like you are the reason he exists, you believe every turd that spills out of his big ugly mouth, you get riled, you share, you donate.

He thanks you. It's not your fault, he has taken in many others too, so don't feel bad. Just learn to do research before you believe things you are told.

[quake]

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

Brainwashed.
You have been duped by a liar, a grifter, and a racist thug.
Only to say that people like you are the reason he exists, you believe every turd that spills out of his big ugly mouth, you get riled, you share, you donate.
He thanks you. It's not your fault, he has taken in many others too, so don't feel bad.

 

We don't need to talk anymore.

Bye. 

[josephbloggs]

4 minutes ago, quake said:

 

We don't need to talk anymore.

Bye. 

Excellent, so no replies to any of my fully reasoned points, just disappear. That is the normal response I have to say. None of his defenders can ever respond to direct challenges. I guess the truth is hard to read, hard to accept you've been lied to and duped, I get it. 

Which of the points in particular do you take issue with, and why? They are all facts. Ah, sorry, forgot, you are not talking anymore, awwwwww.

[BarraMarra]

No one replies to you joebloggs because your a troll. Always trying to belittle members and insulting them. 

[josephbloggs]

2 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

No one replies to you joebloggs because your a troll. Always trying to belittle members and insulting them. 

I belittled the opinion that if it wasn't for Yaxley-Lennon we wouldn't have investigations into the grooming gangs. Because it is a ridiculous opinion that has no basis in fact at all.

I pointed out the he had absolutely nothing to do with exposing them or there being an investigation. Nothing. We would be exactly where we are today if he didn't exist.

I then pointed out all of the hypocrisy of Yaxley-Lennon and all the facts of how often he turns a blind eye to kiddy fliddling by his friends, how the grooming gangs were actually exposed, and the opinion of YL of a survivor who bravely came out and did actually expose them. She said he had nothing to do with it, he was jumping on a bandwagon, he's claiming the work of others as his own, and it is disrespectful. 

All I get in return is "not talking". Funny, huh? Not one person will challenge any of the statements I made, not one questions what I wrote, they just run away.