Question regarding 90 days report

[marino28]

Hi everyone,

I entered Thailand on July 16, so my 90-day report is due on October 14. I’ll be leaving the country on October 18 — within the 7-day grace period I’ve heard about. Do I still need to file the report, or will the 90-day count reset when I re-enter?

Thanks

[fredwiggy]

As far as I know, and seen for myself, when you return it starts all over as soon as you arrive back here. Make sure you get a re-entry permit at the airport before you leave.

[Jingthing]

Interesting question but there are ambiguities.

Technically you should report as you'll be in Thailand on the due date.

There will no check if you reported or not at the airport.

Yes reentering the country will reset the 90 day clock.

So the real question is if there will ever be any consequence from immigration in Thailand as they will be able to see that you didn't report at the last due date.

I don't know. Maybe somebody does.

My guess is probably not, but again it would be cleaner to just do it

 

[DrJack54]

27 minutes ago, marino28 said:

Do I still need to file the report, or will the 90-day count reset when I re-enter?

Many in your situation just exit Thailand. 

There will be no issue with immigration at departure. 

Upon return your count restarts and you will need to report in person. 

Doubtful the io will notice you did not report prior to last exit. 

[rwilem]

3 hours ago, marino28 said:

Do I still need to file the report, or will the 90-day count reset when I re-enter?

A couple questions. What's the hangup about doing it? Have you been in-country on a long-stay extension prior to your most recent arrival? And if so, have you had occasion(s) to do the 90-day reporting? You can do them online, it's not any hassle whatsoever, unless you were/have been rejected and had to do it/them in-person. 

 

Whether you do it or not won't have any effect on a subsequent 'due date', because the '90-day clock' is reset when one returns from a trip abroad. OK, the fine for not doing it is 2000 baht, it's not a biggie, and maybe you might slip by and not get caught out. (And if you don't have further business to attend to at immigration, you're home scot-free.)

 

But if doing some biz at immigration, there will be that one time an IO will be looking at the computer screen, look at the passport, check the screen and passport again, study....hmm...and inform the person before them, 'hey, looks like you didn't do the 90-day report for such-and-such period'. You could do yours anytime from Oct. 1 to Oct. 17, certainly well before leaving the country, and online, 5-10 minutes max, why not just do it?

 

 

 

 

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Many in your situation just exit Thailand. 

There will be no issue with immigration at departure. 

Upon return your count restarts and you will need to report in person. 

Doubtful the io will notice you did not report prior to last exit. 

I agree of course but there is always the tiny possibility that the officer would notice and then there might be a consequence. So if it's convenient enough may as well report. If not, not a big risk not to.

[DrJack54]

43 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

So if it's convenient enough may as well report. If not, not a big risk not to

The "risk" would amount to 2k.

Also unlikely.

Depends on location to office and the actual office.

 

[Jingthing]

13 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

The "risk" would amount to 2k.

Also unlikely.

Depends on location to office and the actual office.

 

Correct me if I'm wromg but don’t they also stamp your passport with a red stamp? 

[puck2]

Why don't you ask your immigration office (by e-mail)?  Problem solved.

[Tod Daniels]

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Correct me if I'm wromg but don’t they also stamp your passport with a red stamp? 

Went you go to file a 90 day report late.

 

They stamp the failure to file a 90-day report on time fine stamp into your passport that shows you pay the 2,000 baht fine. 

 

There are no negative implications from having that stamp, not when getting an extension or exiting or entering the country. 

[DrJack54]

6 minutes ago, puck2 said:

Why don't you ask your immigration office (by e-mail)?  Problem solved.

That would be waste of time.

 

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, Tod Daniels said:

Went you go to file a 90 day report late.

 

They stamp the failure to file a 90-day report on time fine stamp into your passport that shows you pay the 2,000 baht fine. 

 

There are no negative implications from having that stamp, not when getting an extension or exiting or entering the country. 

There could be if applying for visas or entering other countries. 

[DrJack54]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

There could be if applying for visas or entering other countries. 

No

[Tod Daniels]

It is a common misperception that many people think the fact you can file a 90 day report up to 7-days after the due date somehow equates to some mythical 'grace period' where if you leave the country during those 7 days you're not obligated to report. 

 

That is not the case,

 

The rule is clear, if you're in country for 90 days on a visa/extension that requires 90 day reporting, you report. 

 

That you can file in person from 2 weeks before the due date up to 1 week after is just the 'window of opportunity' you have to do a 90 days report in person. 

 

Now with that being said, if you don't do one NOTHING happens to you at passport control when you go to stamp out, not a thing. It is not the officer's job at passport control to see if you did a 90-day report they do not care if you ever filed one. 

AND

When you come back in you're following 90-day report will be to 89 days from the day you stamp in. 

 

It is highly unlikely when you do file that report they will notice you failed to do your previous 90 day report on time. As people pointed out, even if they did catch it the worst that can happen is the failure to file 2000 baht fine (which is the same whether you're 8 days late or 8 months late)

[Tod Daniels]

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

There could be if applying for visas or entering other countries. 

Said no one ever. 

I have not read a single report of anyone having an issue filing for an extension after getting a 2000 baht failure to file a 90 day report stamp. 

 

In fact I know several long stay foreigners here who never do 90-day reporting throughout the whole year, only pay a 2,000 fine and file one 90 day report just before they do their next yearly extension. 

 

I saw a passport that had page after page of failure to file 90 report fine stamps and immediately under it a new yearly extension stamp (at least 8 yearly extensions along with failure to file 2000 baht fine stamps) 

 

I stand by my statement: there are no negative implications for failing to file a 90-day report on time and paying the 2000 baht fine.. 

[Hamus Yaigh]

The op said they are leaving the country within the 7 day grace period for 90 day reporting, so what is the big issue? Doesn't being in a grace period mean they are still legit and not breaking any requirements? They can just leave without doing a report and come back and its an absolute non issue. @Jingthing comments seem way off track to me.

[SamSpade]

1 hour ago, rwilem said:

A couple questions. What's the hangup about doing it? Have you been in-country on a long-stay extension prior to your most recent arrival? And if so, have you had occasion(s) to do the 90-day reporting? You can do them online,

If he re-entered Thailand on 16th July then this is his 1st report since re-entering Thailand so cannot be done online, he or (his "Agent") needs to do it in person, can maybe mail it in, but cannot do online. 

 

OP you'll have no problems leaving (or coming back) without doing the report but if it were me, I'd go pay my agent 100B to file it for me.