On 8/31/2025 at 2:00 AM, Yagoda said:

No German should ever use the terms "mass murder" as an epithet against anyone.

 

Oh really, I did not know that.

 

To ease your mind I will use the term "genocide" from now on.

 

On 8/31/2025 at 12:18 PM, ezzra said:

That's the problem, no other country wants them, especially other Muslim countries, as they know what they will

be letting in.

 

Be careful with such statements.

 

Ever heard the term "Jewish question"?

 

Europe wanted to get rid of the Jews  since the 19th century, leading to the foundation of Zionism.

 

The Palestinians were more or less the only people welcoming Jews, even letting them live in their houses. Until they found out their true intentions, but it was too late.

 

I guess both people would not win a popularity contest.

 

However, Palestinians were forcefully removed from their homes, where they had been living for centuries and as they never received any help from the rest of the world to get back what was rightfully theirs, in their desperation they turned into terrorists in the last century.

 

Jews on the other side somehow were always chased, rejected, murdered and kicked out, like for Millennia. At least that's what they say about themselves.

 

 

On 8/31/2025 at 1:31 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Really ?

Are Israel grabbing Palestinian woman off the street , sexually abusing them and taking them back to Israel and holding them hostages in tunnels for years on end  ?

    NO , Israel are not like Hamas

 

 

Israel grabs women, children and men, incarcerates and brutalizes them including rape.

 

Only they call it prisoners not hostages, to make it sound legal.

 

And when one Palestinian gets raped so brutally that he almost dies in hospital, the Israeli Media treats the rapist like a hero.

 

 

inviting him to TV shows for a meet and great with fans

 

 

And in the Knesset they discuss if raping of detainees is ok or not, like every democratic barbarian government should do.

 

 

4 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

xxx

 

No need to be sorry because what I wrote was totally true.  You, on the other hand, make some wild claims without providing any sources for them.  I'll try to correct that,

 

I don`t understand your post. You wrote Hamas would never let anyone flood the place and I doubted that.

 

4 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

It's not a matter of restricting the delivery of supplies but of diverting or looting supplies once inside Gaza.

 

The famine started a few months ago after Israel completely blocked Gaza and took the food delivery out of the hand of the UN with their 400 delivery sites and only allowed the GHF do the job, which has only 4 delivery sites.

 

That is when starvation started same as the intentional shooting of hungry Gazans at the delivery sites.

 

That is depraved.

 

4 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

That quote is from  an article by AFP (Agence France-Presse) on Feb. 18, 2006, titled, Hamas readies for government, Israel prepares sanctions.  The words were spoken by Dov Weisglass, who, as you say, was at that time an adviser to Ehud Olmert.  However, he wasn't speaking literally of food supplies but figuratively of tax money that Israel collected on behalf of the Palestinian Authority.  The context of the quote makes that clear.  From the article: 

"Israel was also plotting economic sanctions, preparing to withhold millions of dollars in tax duties from the Palestinian Authority, amounting to about one-third of the Palestinians' budget.

'The idea is to put the Palestinians on a diet but not make them die of hunger,' prime ministerial adviser Dov Weisglass was quoted as saying at a meeting to discuss how to deal with a Hamas government.

'As of Saturday, Hamas will be in charge of the Palestinian finance ministry and money,' Mark Regev, spokesman for the Israeli foreign ministry, told AFP."

https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/113386/Hamas-readies-for-government-Israel-prepares-sanctions

 

Thanks to the passage of time, the quote has been taken out of context to "prove" Israel had a policy of starving Gazans.  It didn't.

 

No need to thank me, but if you would have read my post with attention you would have noticed that I mentioned the year 2006.

 

My post was a proof, thanks for backing it, that Israel has for long been putting Gaza on a diet, meaning making their lives as miserable as possible.

 

4 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

That's  a false interpretation.  The goal was to PREVENT starvation, not cause it. 

 

 

Now that is depraved and cynical.

 

Who gives them the right to restrict them from farming, fishing, keeping livestock?  For decades.

 

And restrict food to later say, we were worried they don`t eat enough.

 

Ridiculous.

 

Same as the IDF guy was asked, why they had the imprisoned Palestinians take off their clothes he answered, well this is a hot country, we wanted them to feel comfortable.

 

I hope all those "we gave them Gaza and instead of turning it into a Riviera they decided to become terrorists." guys read that.

 

And shooting all those kids at the border, remember the Israeli sniper boasting about 42 children`s kneecaps he shot in one day, was to prevent them from doing too much sports, right?

 

 

Plainly shows the world how useless the UN is and how right Trump is to cut their funding.

 

Not all UN agencies of course are useless, mainly those affiliated to trade agreements,

 

But all the others. Those left winged woke ideology climate propaganda sections, the humain rights organisations, UNESCO, humanitarian NGO's or XXL sized assemblies..utter waste of public funds and plainly places to give overpaid jobs to all the political cronies of member states. 

26 minutes ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

Plainly shows the world how useless the UN is and how right Trump is to cut their funding.

 

Not all UN agencies of course are useless, mainly those affiliated to trade agreements,

 

But all the others. Those left winged woke ideology climate propaganda sections, the humain rights organisations, UNESCO, humanitarian NGO's or XXL sized assemblies..utter waste of public funds and plainly places to give overpaid jobs to all the political cronies of member states. 

Calling the UN “useless” is a strange statement  – UN agencies wiped out smallpox, nearly ended polio, fed over 100 million people a year through the World Food Program,  and kept refugees alive in wars and disasters no single nation could handle. That’s fact, that’s millions of lives saved, including Americans in disaster relief.

Writing off the entire organization means throwing away the one global organization that actually delivers when famine, epidemics, and wars break out. Cutting U.S. funding doesn’t punish “woke bureaucrats” – it punishes starving kids, refugees, and ordinary people who depend on lifesaving programs.

If anything, America weakens itself by walking away – and leaves space for rivals like China to step in. 

39 minutes ago, Somjot said:

And shooting all those kids at the border, remember the Israeli sniper boasting about 42 children`s kneecaps he shot in one day, was to prevent them from doing too much sports, right?

Really? I’d like to hear more about this. Shocking

8 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Calling the UN “useless” is a strange statement  – UN agencies wiped out smallpox, nearly ended polio, fed over 100 million people a year through the World Food Program,  and kept refugees alive in wars and disasters no single nation could handle. That’s fact, that’s millions of lives saved, including Americans in disaster relief.

Writing off the entire organization means throwing away the one global organization that actually delivers when famine, epidemics, and wars break out. Cutting U.S. funding doesn’t punish “woke bureaucrats” – it punishes starving kids, refugees, and ordinary people who depend on lifesaving programs.

If anything, America weakens itself by walking away – and leaves space for rivals like China to step in. 

I respect your idea. But you are refering to a UN antenna called the WHO. Not the same thing compared to what I was refering to which was many useless, costly bureaucratic dinosaurs that need to be disolved. Trump plainly set the ball rolling for what even the UN  bodies had planed years ago to dissolve and cut costs. It is called the "UN80 initiative". Trump plainly set it in motion and spead up the process. 

2 minutes ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

I respect your idea. But you are refering to a UN antenna called the WHO. Not the same thing compared to what I was refering to which was many useless, costly bureaucratic dinosaurs that need to be disolved. Trump plainly set the ball rolling for what even the UN  bodies had planed years ago to dissolve and cut costs. It is called the "UN80 initiative". Trump plainly set it in motion and spead up the process. 

There does need to be some reform in UN but it’s far from useless.

Trump’s habit of swinging a wrecking ball at institutions isn’t ‘reform,’ it’s recklessness. Real leadership is about strengthening what works and fixing what doesn’t - not hollow chest-thumping that others later have to clean up. He does mean well but isn’t really qualified for the job.

 

Just now, JimCM said:

There does need to be some reform in UN but it’s far from useless.

Trump’s habit of swinging a wrecking ball at institutions isn’t ‘reform,’ it’s recklessness. Real leadership is about strengthening what works and fixing what doesn’t - not hollow chest-thumping that others later have to clean up. He does mean well but isn’t really qualified for the job.

 

If you have followed European politics, or Thai politics, Israel politics,  African politics etc....show me any other one in these countries who is qualified for the job ? That is one of the flaws perhaps of democracy maybe ?  You can be an utter dud in a democracy, but reach office thanks to a slick speech and cunning political games. 

21 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Really? I’d like to hear more about this. Shocking

https://imemc.org/article/analysis-42-knees-in-one-day-israeli-snipers-open-up-about-shooting-gaza-protesters/

 

 

So much for everything started October 7.

 

Israel even sterilized Jews from Ethiopia as they did not want too many black jews.

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/28/ethiopian-women-given-contraceptives-israel

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gave-birth-control-to-ethiopian-jews-without-their-consent-8468800.html

 

 

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9 hours ago, Somjot said:

https://imemc.org/article/analysis-42-knees-in-one-day-israeli-snipers-open-up-about-shooting-gaza-protesters/

 

 

So much for everything started October 7.

 

Israel even sterilized Jews from Ethiopia as they did not want too many black jews.

 

 

9 hours ago, Somjot said:

 

Israel even sterilized Jews from Ethiopia as they did not want too many black jews.

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/28/ethiopian-women-given-contraceptives-israel

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gave-birth-control-to-ethiopian-jews-without-their-consent-8468800.html

 

 

 

 

 

   Untrue claim from 13 years go .

The drug in question was a temporary birth control ,drug , it wasnt permeant sterilisation 

26 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Untrue claim from 13 years go .

The drug in question was a temporary birth control ,drug , it wasnt permeant sterilisation 

Noted, you don’t deny the IDF sniper video.

2 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Noted, you don’t deny the IDF sniper video.

 

   I have just logged on and there's many false claims been made above .

I don't have the time to respond to them all .

Numerous links to click  and videos to watch .

I do have other things to be getting on with .

Its just going over the same old topics .

I dont have the time to look into the sniper claims .

And I just know that the claims will not be true or correct 

As most of the claims are 

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I have just logged on and there's many false claims been made above .

I don't have the time to respond to them all .

Numerous links to click  and videos to watch .

I do have other things to be getting on with .

Its just going over the same old topics .

I dont have the time to look into the sniper claims .

And I just know that the claims will not be true or correct 

As most of the claims are 

Hmmm, every time I log on here, you are here, I don’t believe you have no time.

I’ve time to help you research. The following from Amnesty international. Do you deny it still?

 

Israel is carrying out a murderous assault against protesting Palestinians as its armed forces continue to kill and maim demonstrators who pose no imminent threat to them, according to research by Amnesty International.

As the ‘Great March of Return’ protests continue in the Gaza Strip today (27 April), Amnesty has renewed its call on governments worldwide to impose a comprehensive arms embargo on the country following its disproportionate response to mass demonstrations along the fence that separates the Gaza Strip from Israel.

The Israeli military has killed 35 Palestinians and injured more than 5,500 others – some with what appear to be deliberately inflicted life-changing injuries – during the weekly Friday protests that began on 30 March.

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/israel-deliberate-attempts-military-kill-and-maim-gaza-protesters-continues

 

3 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Hmmm, every time I log on here, you are here, I don’t believe you have no time.

I’ve time to help you research. The following from Amnesty international. Do you deny it still?

 

Israel is carrying out a murderous assault against protesting Palestinians as its armed forces continue to kill and maim demonstrators who pose no imminent threat to them, according to research by Amnesty International.

As the ‘Great March of Return’ protests continue in the Gaza Strip today (27 April), Amnesty has renewed its call on governments worldwide to impose a comprehensive arms embargo on the country following its disproportionate response to mass demonstrations along the fence that separates the Gaza Strip from Israel.

The Israeli military has killed 35 Palestinians and injured more than 5,500 others – some with what appear to be deliberately inflicted life-changing injuries – during the weekly Friday protests that began on 30 March.

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/israel-deliberate-attempts-military-kill-and-maim-gaza-protesters-continues

 

 

   That report is from 2018

27 Apr 2018, 

I really do not have the time to research it and also, I am getting a bit bored talking bout Israel

12 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I have just logged on and there's many false claims been made above .

I don't have the time to respond to them all .

Numerous links to click  and videos to watch .

I do have other things to be getting on with .

Its just going over the same old topics .

I dont have the time to look into the sniper claims .

And I just know that the claims will not be true or correct 

As most of the claims are 

An Israeli reservist who served three tours of duty in Gaza has told Sky News in a rare on-camera interview that his unit was often ordered to shoot anyone entering areas soldiers defined as no-go zones, regardless of whether they posed a threat, a practice he says left civilians dead where they fell.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/israeli-soldier-describes-arbitrary-killing-of-civilians-in-gaza-13393422

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That report is from 2018

27 Apr 2018, 

I really do not have the time to research it and also, I am getting a bit bored talking bout Israel

I believe you are bored talking about Israel as the point has come where trying to defend it is looking foolish and you can’t support them anymore.

Please give your opinion on the snipers firing at kneecaps and stop avoiding it with lies like you have no time or are bored talking about it.

 

10 hours ago, Somjot said:

https://imemc.org/article/analysis-42-knees-in-one-day-israeli-snipers-open-up-about-shooting-gaza-protesters/

 

 

So much for everything started October 7.

 

Israel even sterilized Jews from Ethiopia as they did not want too many black jews.

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/28/ethiopian-women-given-contraceptives-israel

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gave-birth-control-to-ethiopian-jews-without-their-consent-8468800.html

 

 

Here’s another video exposing the terrorist IDF.

 

 

3 minutes ago, JimCM said:

 

Please give your opinion 

 

 

 

What are you doing to help those poor poor Palestinian ppl ?

 

 

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Your claim was false.

 

There is no evidence of Hamas systematically stealing food and other humanitarian aid.

 

I provided a link.

 

 

 

   

I made  prediction for the future , a prediction for the future cannot be  lie 

 

(The link that you provided states that  Hamas steal food and I myself have posted videos of Hamas stealing food )

   You falsely accused me of lying and you will not retract that false claim

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5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   

I made  prediction for the future , a prediction for the future cannot be  lie 

 

(The link that you provided states that  Hamas steal food and I myself have posted videos of Hamas stealing food )

   You falsely accused me of lying and you will not retract that false claim

Yep a false prediction based on the lie that Hamas are systemically stealing food and other humanitarian aid.

 

The only way you can honestly predict Hamas will steal food and other humanitarian aid is if Hamas always do so.

 

There is no evidence that Hamas systematically steal food and other humanitarian aid.

 

Your statement was a false and baseless pejorative assumption as an argument against providing g aid to starving civilians.

 

I provided a link.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Yep a false prediction based on the lie that Hamas are systemically stealing food and other humanitarian aid.

The only way you can honestly predict Hamas will steal food and other humanitarian aid if if Hamas always do so.

There is no evidence that Hamas systematically steal food and other humanitarian aid.

Your statement was a false and baseless pejorative assumption.

I provided a link.

 

   You didn't provide  link .

The link that you provided stated Hamas hasn't stolen any USA aid , it doesn't mention aid from any other country/source . The link didn't claim that Hamas hasn't stolen any food at all 

The link you posted states Hamas do steal aid .

   Hamas have indeed stolen aid (I have posted videos of Hamas stealing aid) and I predicted Hamas would steal  in the future .

   A future prediction cannot be  lie .

You falsely accused me of lying and you will not retract that false claim 

 

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You posted four different videos/links to newspaper report in an hour.

as you cannot be bothered to write anything yourself , you just post videos and links to media reports .

   Why should I be bothered to watch the videos and comment on them ?

Its like you've installed yourself as the teacher and sent me my homework for the day .

   "Read these and hand you're comments in by this evening" 

What you don’t condemn, you condone.

 

It seems that you can’t condemn ANYTHING that Israel are doing, which is a bit weird tbh.

 

You now know about the IDF snipers but CHOOSE not to comment, which means you don’t condemn it. Think about that.

A new study which supports the claim Hamas is stealing aid deliveries to Gaza

New study says aid theft by terror groups and regimes is prolonging global conflicts

A new study says the United Nations and other aid groups have repeatedly looked the other way as aid intended for civilians is stolen by terror groups and dictators, from Hamas in Gaza to the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Last month, researchers Dr. Netta Barak-Corren of Jerusalem's Hebrew University and Dr. Jonathan Boxman outlined the harmful impact of aid diversion in war zones, including Somalia, Ethiopia, Syria, Yemen, Sudan and Afghanistan, before presenting the likely case of diversion in Gaza.  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/new-study-says-aid-theft-by-terror-groups-and-regimes-is-prolonging-global-conflicts/ar-AA1LDJ1b?ocid=msedgntp&pc=EDGEESS&cvid=

 

 

Other relevant articles which point to systematic looting of humanitarian aid to Gaza.  Not all whistleblowers are pro-Palestine.

Exclusive: Whistleblower alleges misconduct by United Nations in Gaza

UN denies disrupting aid, stresses coordination with Israel to deliver aid to Gazans

EXCLUSIVE - An international aid worker operating in Gaza has filed a formal whistleblower complaint to the Inspector General of the United States Agency for International Development (USAID), alleging "gross misconduct and misuse of humanitarian funds by the World Food Programme and other U.N. Agencies," according to a copy of the complaint obtained by Fox News Digital.

Details of alleged United Nations interference in the delivery of aid to Gazans have been revealed by the whistleblower who was in Gaza in July. The whistleblower confirmed to Fox News Digital the content of the complaint. 

https://www.foxnews.com/world/exclusive-whistleblower-alleges-misconduct-united-nations-gaza

 

As Israel faces blame for the hunger crisis in Gaza, UN's own data shows most of its aid is looted

UNOPS figures show 1,753 of 2,013 trucks stolen by armed actors or civilians since May 19

New data published last week by the U.N. agency UNOPS shows that most of its aid entering the war-torn Gaza Strip has been looted inside the Palestinian territory. UNOPS provides management services for the world body's own humanitarian operations.

Despite this, condemnation of Israel over the hunger crisis in Gaza has been ramping up, prompting an increasing number of Western governments to declare intentions to recognize a Palestinian state as punishment, and leading some media outlets to totally tune out the role both international humanitarian organizations and Hamas, whose October 2023 mass terror attack in Israel started the nearly two-year-old war, have played in this catastrophe. 

https://www.foxnews.com/world/israel-faces-blame-hunger-crisis-gaza-uns-own-data-shows-most-its-aid-looted

 

18 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

A new study which supports the claim Hamas is stealing aid deliveries to Gaza

New study says aid theft by terror groups and regimes is prolonging global conflicts

A new study says the United Nations and other aid groups have repeatedly looked the other way as aid intended for civilians is stolen by terror groups and dictators, from Hamas in Gaza to the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Last month, researchers Dr. Netta Barak-Corren of Jerusalem's Hebrew University and Dr. Jonathan Boxman outlined the harmful impact of aid diversion in war zones, including Somalia, Ethiopia, Syria, Yemen, Sudan and Afghanistan, before presenting the likely case of diversion in Gaza.  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/new-study-says-aid-theft-by-terror-groups-and-regimes-is-prolonging-global-conflicts/ar-AA1LDJ1b?ocid=msedgntp&pc=EDGEESS&cvid=

 

 

Other relevant articles which point to systematic looting of humanitarian aid to Gaza.  Not all whistleblowers are pro-Palestine.

Exclusive: Whistleblower alleges misconduct by United Nations in Gaza

UN denies disrupting aid, stresses coordination with Israel to deliver aid to Gazans

EXCLUSIVE - An international aid worker operating in Gaza has filed a formal whistleblower complaint to the Inspector General of the United States Agency for International Development (USAID), alleging "gross misconduct and misuse of humanitarian funds by the World Food Programme and other U.N. Agencies," according to a copy of the complaint obtained by Fox News Digital.

Details of alleged United Nations interference in the delivery of aid to Gazans have been revealed by the whistleblower who was in Gaza in July. The whistleblower confirmed to Fox News Digital the content of the complaint. 

https://www.foxnews.com/world/exclusive-whistleblower-alleges-misconduct-united-nations-gaza

 

As Israel faces blame for the hunger crisis in Gaza, UN's own data shows most of its aid is looted

UNOPS figures show 1,753 of 2,013 trucks stolen by armed actors or civilians since May 19

New data published last week by the U.N. agency UNOPS shows that most of its aid entering the war-torn Gaza Strip has been looted inside the Palestinian territory. UNOPS provides management services for the world body's own humanitarian operations.

Despite this, condemnation of Israel over the hunger crisis in Gaza has been ramping up, prompting an increasing number of Western governments to declare intentions to recognize a Palestinian state as punishment, and leading some media outlets to totally tune out the role both international humanitarian organizations and Hamas, whose October 2023 mass terror attack in Israel started the nearly two-year-old war, have played in this catastrophe. 

https://www.foxnews.com/world/israel-faces-blame-hunger-crisis-gaza-uns-own-data-shows-most-its-aid-looted

 

 

How did this get here?

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/

 

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30 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

How did this get here?

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/

 

Overall, we rate Fox News right biased based on editorial positions that align with the right and Questionable due to the promotion of propaganda, conspiracy theories, pseudoscience, the use of poor sources, and numerous false claims and failed fact checks. 

 

   Which publication will it need to be reported in for you to believe it ?

7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Which publication will it need to be reported in for you to believe it ?

Exactly, Fox news is often in Gaza and reporting directly from there.

 

This video report from just a few days ago

 

Fox News national correspondent Jeff Paul gets an inside look at a new aid distribution site in Gaza on ‘Special Report.’

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6377540126112

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4 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

How did this get here?

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/

 

Any news source can be accused of bias; it all depends on the readers'/viewers' perspectives.  This is what the source you cited has to say about The Guardian and Al Jazeera, two news sources often used by the pro-Palestinian members of  AN.

 

"The Guardian often emphasizes progressive issues such as environmental activism, social justice, and human rights. This left-leaning bias is apparent in its story selection and editorial policies, which tend to support liberal perspectives.

"Despite its bias, The Guardian is praised for its investigative journalism. However, this paper has a track record of numerous failed fact checks, which impacts its credibility and reliability." https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-guardian-a-closer-look-at-bias-and-credibility/

"Overall, we rate Al Jazeera Left-Center biased, based on story selection that slightly favors the left, and Mixed for factual reporting due to failed fact checks that were not corrected and misleading extreme editorial bias that favors Qatar."

Further down in the review it says:

"Al Jazeera also has an opinion page that exhibits significant bias against Israel. ... In general, opinion pieces are routinely biased against Israel and right-wing ideologies."     https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/al-jazeera/