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Ukraine is winning the war

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I think no person in their senses will either believe Ukraine is winning or even gives a sh....  People just want Trump to stop asap those sanctions against Russia that are putting the global economy in tension and creating an artificial inflation on goods and services and increasing social anger mainly in Europe. 

6 minutes ago, SingAPorn said:

I think no person in their senses will either believe Ukraine is winning or even gives a sh....  People just want Trump to stop asap those sanctions against Russia that are putting the global economy in tension and creating an artificial inflation on goods and services and increasing social anger mainly in Europe. 

 

The scale “our grandparents and great-grandparents endured”.

Let’s review in chronological order, WW1 was started by the Austria-Hungarian empire backed by the German one decided to declare war on Serbia triggering the Great War due to the complex alliances existing at the time forcing Russia, France and Britain into the conflict.

WW2 was started by the Germans when they thought conquering all of Europe was feasible and exterminating the Slavs for their Lebensraum was doable.

The current coalition of the willing has the French, the Brits and the Germans.

Seems that the only repeating pattern in wars of significant scale are the Germans and the yapping Baltics. We should offer one to Putin as a price for peace in our time. 

 

 

Ukrainian Armed Forces’ drone units struck Russian chemical plants producing key chemical substances for the Russian army on the night of December 11, according to Robert "Madyar" Brovdi, commander of the Ukrainian Armed Forces' Unmanned Systems Forces, on Telegram.

 

"Madyar" stated that the strike in Russian territory hit two chemical plants. The attack was carried out by fighters from the 1st Separate UAV Center and the GRAF unit of the Unmanned Systems Forces.

 

Earlier, Russian Telegram channels had already reported that the chemical plant in Veliky Novgorod was under drone attack.

 

Unmanned systems forces carry out strike on Russian chemical plants: Details

 

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It seems to me at this point that the biggest threat to Ukraine's hope to emerge from this war as a sovereign nation is upon one person -- Donald John Trump. As an American, that disgusts me to the core.

15 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Let me search for information about Zelensky's family history and whether this claim is accurate.Yes, this is essentially true, though the exact details are slightly more nuanced:

The Core Facts Are Accurate

Zelensky's grandfather, Semyon Ivanovich Zelensky, and three great uncles did fight in World War II for the Soviet's Red Army against the Nazis. His grandfather had four brothers who all went to war, and he was the only one who had a military education. They all died in the war except for him.

Zelensky's Own Words

In January 2020, during the 75th anniversary commemoration of Auschwitz's liberation, Zelensky told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu about a family of four brothers: "Three of them, their parents and their families became victims of the Holocaust. All of them were shot by German occupiers who invaded Ukraine. The fourth brother survived. Two years after the war, he had a son, and in 31 years, he had a grandson. In 40 more years, that grandson became president".

Additional Family Holocaust History

Zelensky revealed that his great-grandparents died when the Nazis burned their village. His grandfather's father and mother were killed in a terrible fire when the Nazis set ablaze the entire village where they lived.

Zelensky described his grandfather as having graduated from military academy and fighting through the entire war in the infantry, receiving many wounds and medals. Days before taking office in 2019, Zelensky put flowers on his grandfather's grave in his hometown of Kryvyi Rih.

So the image's claim is accurate - four brothers from the same Jewish family fought against the Nazis, only one survived (Zelensky's grandfather), and his grandson is indeed the current President of Ukraine.

Jews murdered in the Ukraine by Nazis could only be killed with help of Ukrainians who happily kill Jews and of course steal from them. So Mr zelenski's family probably murdered by ukrainians. They pulled the trigger because they like to and because shooting baby maybe make a German upset

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2 minutes ago, IDFHero said:

Jews murdered in the Ukraine by Nazis could only be killed with help of Ukrainians who happily kill Jews and of course steal from them. So Mr zelenski's family probably murdered by ukrainians. They pulled the trigger because they like to and because shooting baby maybe make a German upset

There was collaboration against Jews everywhere that the Nazi's controlled. Irrelevant to this current war.

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

There was collaboration against Jews everywhere that the Nazi's controlled. Irrelevant to this current war.

You do not know history. Dutch people do not put Jews in front of ditches and pull trigger. Even anti-semite French people do not do. Ukrainians drag old people from house and shoot them in the street and throw baby from window and burn shul and then steal money because ukrainian steal from Jew. Ukrainian beat naked women and children and make them run into gas chamber. It is good for Ukrainian because all Jewish men are in Red Army so easy for Ukrainian to kill women and children and old lady

 

Ukrainian always steal, this is why they get rich from stealing from USA

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Just now, IDFHero said:

You do not know history. Dutch people do not put Jews in front of ditches and pull trigger. Even anti-semite French people do not do. Ukrainians drag old people from house and shoot them in the street and throw baby from window and burn shul and then steal money because ukrainian steal from Jew. Ukrainian beat naked women and children and make them run into gas chamber. It is good for Ukrainian because all Jewish men are in Red Army so easy for them to kill women and children and old lady

 

Ukrainian always steal, this is why they get rich from stealing from USA

I'm well aware of Ukrainian history.

But in these times they overwhelmingly elected a Jewish president.

This current war isn't about world war 2.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

I'm well aware of Ukrainian history.

But in these times they overwhelmingly elected a Jewish president.

This current war isn't about world war

Well aware? So you forget Jewish babies being murdered by Ukrainian Nazis. still Nazis in the Ukraine. Election for President mean nothing he is funny comedian

 

Russian no good for Jewish people either but better than Ukraine

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7 minutes ago, IDFHero said:

Well aware? So you forget Jewish babies being murdered by Ukrainian Nazis. still Nazis in the Ukraine. Election for President mean nothing he is funny comedian

 

Russian no good for Jewish people either but better than Ukraine

The Nazi faction in their last election didn't actually win representation in the Ukrainian government.

There are Nazis all over the world.

The current U.S. president has dined with Nazis.

His VP openly courts their support.

Not suggesting forgetting anything. 

In the current war, the side acting like Nazis is RUSSIA.

 

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

The Nazi faction in their last election didn't actually win representation in the Ukrainian government.

Not suggesting forgetting anything. 

In the current war, that side acting like Nazis is RUSSIA.

 

Russia not act like Nazis. Only people like Nazis are Muslim terrorist 

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6 minutes ago, IDFHero said:

Russia not act like Nazis. Only people like Nazis are Muslim terrorist 

Not as in attacking Jews. 

As in invading Ukraine comparable to how Hitler started in Poland, stealing land, and massive war crimes against civilians,

To add, painting Ukraine as Nazi is a Putin propaganda talking point.

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36 minutes ago, IDFHero said:

You do not know history. Dutch people do not put Jews in front of ditches and pull trigger. Even anti-semite French people do not do. Ukrainians drag old people from house and shoot them in the street and throw baby from window and burn shul and then steal money because ukrainian steal from Jew. Ukrainian beat naked women and children and make them run into gas chamber. It is good for Ukrainian because all Jewish men are in Red Army so easy for Ukrainian to kill women and children and old lady

 

Ukrainian always steal, this is why they get rich from stealing from USA

 

36 minutes ago, IDFHero said:

You do not know history. Dutch people do not put Jews in front of ditches and pull trigger. Even anti-semite French people do not do. Ukrainians drag old people from house and shoot them in the street and throw baby from window and burn shul and then steal money because ukrainian steal from Jew. Ukrainian beat naked women and children and make them run into gas chamber. It is good for Ukrainian because all Jewish men are in Red Army so easy for Ukrainian to kill women and children and old lady

 

Ukrainian always steal, this is why they get rich from stealing from USA

 

I’ll put your dubious avatar to one side for a moment, because you’re probably not who you appear to be. I’ll quote someone I don’t even like  Douglas Murray who said that Hamas were worse than the Nazis because they enjoyed killing Jews, whereas the Nazis felt shame, covered their crimes up, and drank themselves to sleep to hide it.

Some Ukrainians and people from the Baltic states were among the most enthusiastic Nazi collaborators and foreign SS volunteers, steeped in centuries-old pogroms and backed by the German industrial war machine. And while there was some sense of grievance  for example, the belief that the Bolsheviks were a Jewish conspiracy, since Soviet communists included a notable number of Jews  that hardly excuses the violence.

 

The black-and-red flags seen everywhere at Maidan, in Ukrainian cemeteries, and on some soldiers’ patches celebrate a virulent form of Ukrainian nationalism in which killing “reds” and their fellow travellers Jews, Galicians, Poles was considered an act of pleasure rather than duty. So while I can find no evidence that Zelenskyy’s family were killed by OUN-Banderites, there’s a good chance they helped the extermination along.

 

Azov, with a new coat of paint and a Western reboot, has roots in that murky world. And while Soviet war memorials have been torn down or defaced, streets, statues, and institutions have been named after Bandera and even worse butchers. But we don’t talk about that - because in the trouble roots of earstern europe lies the seeds of many wars and from my Brit perch and years of historical curiosity I've learnt one thing don't poke the Russian bear. 

 

Mr Rutte I have Napoleon and Mr Hitler on the phone - do you want to take the call ?

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

 

 

I’ll put your dubious avatar to one side for a moment, because you’re probably not who you appear to be. I’ll quote someone I don’t even like  Douglas Murray who said that Hamas were worse than the Nazis because they enjoyed killing Jews, whereas the Nazis felt shame, covered their crimes up, and drank themselves to sleep to hide it.

Some Ukrainians and people from the Baltic states were among the most enthusiastic Nazi collaborators and foreign SS volunteers, steeped in centuries-old pogroms and backed by the German industrial war machine. And while there was some sense of grievance  for example, the belief that the Bolsheviks were a Jewish conspiracy, since Soviet communists included a notable number of Jews  that hardly excuses the violence.

 

The black-and-red flags seen everywhere at Maidan, in Ukrainian cemeteries, and on some soldiers’ patches celebrate a virulent form of Ukrainian nationalism in which killing “reds” and their fellow travellers Jews, Galicians, Poles was considered an act of pleasure rather than duty. So while I can find no evidence that Zelenskyy’s family were killed by OUN-Banderites, there’s a good chance they helped the extermination along.

 

Azov, with a new coat of paint and a Western reboot, has roots in that murky world. And while Soviet war memorials have been torn down or defaced, streets, statues, and institutions have been named after Bandera and even worse butchers. But we don’t talk about that - because in the trouble roots of earstern europe lies the seeds of many wars and from my Brit perch and years of historical curiosity I've learnt one thing don't poke the Russian bear. 

 

Mr Rutte I have Napoleon and Mr Hitler on the phone - do you want to take the call ?

 

 

 

So even though insult me, you agree. My user name from my baby is not allowed here?

7 hours ago, IDFHero said:

Russia not act like Nazis.

 

They did in WW2. Occupied Belarus and Russia had much the same stories of collaboration as Ukraine. Additionally, the Soviets had a pact with Nazi Germany. The Soviet Union was an Anti-Semitic state, hence, as soon as the rotten apparatus fell apart, Jewish people were queuing up to get out.

 

Putin is an out and out anti-semite. He used pretty strong and crude language here:

 

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-834232

 

Not the first time. Do you remember when Lavrov claimed Hitler was Jewish. Pretty monstrous language from a man who ought to know better.

 

 

30 minutes ago, Roadsternut said:

 

They did in WW2. Occupied Belarus and Russia had much the same stories of collaboration as Ukraine. Additionally, the Soviets had a pact with Nazi Germany. The Soviet Union was an Anti-Semitic state, hence, as soon as the rotten apparatus fell apart, Jewish people were queuing up to get out.

 

Putin is an out and out anti-semite. He used pretty strong and crude language here:

 

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-834232

 

Not the first time. Do you remember when Lavrov claimed Hitler was Jewish. Pretty monstrous language from a man who ought to know better.

 

 

Russia curses Jews but is nothing without them

Yaroslavl in Russia was attacked by unidentified drones during the night of December 12. Locals reported on social media that an oil refinery was hit, according to Russian media.

 

Footage shows flames, fire, and thick black smoke. One social media account reported that around seven explosions were heard over Yaroslavl. Smoke was seen over one of the districts, and an unusual humming sound could also be heard in the sky.·

 

An air-raid alert was in effect in Smolensk, Russia, for an extended period, having been declared since the evening. It is unclear whether this is related to the drone attack or whether the thermal power plant was actually hit, although preliminary reports suggested this.

 

Drones attack Russia: Hits reported at Smolensk power plant and Yaroslavl oil refinery

 

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The Syzran oil refinery in the Saratov region completely ceased operations following strikes by Ukrainian strike drones during the night of December 5. It was also reported that on the night of December 6, the Armed Forces of Ukraine carried out a successful strike on Russian targets. Ukrainian drones hit the Alchevsk Metallurgical Plant and, once again, the Ryazan oil refinery.

 

 

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14 hours ago, IDFHero said:

So even though insult me, you agree. My user name from my baby is not allowed here?

 

How is Siem Reap these days?

7 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

 

They did in WW2. Occupied Belarus and Russia had much the same stories of collaboration as Ukraine. Additionally, the Soviets had a pact with Nazi Germany. The Soviet Union was an Anti-Semitic state, hence, as soon as the rotten apparatus fell apart, Jewish people were queuing up to get out.

 

Putin is an out and out anti-semite. He used pretty strong and crude language here:

 

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-834232

 

Not the first time. Do you remember when Lavrov claimed Hitler was Jewish. Pretty monstrous language from a man who ought to know better.

 

 

It's a 50:50 

 

‘Putin’s rabbi’ calls for end to war in Ukraine, offers to mediate
Berel Lazar says he’s ready to do anything ‘to silence the guns and to stop the bombs,’ after Ukrainian rabbis rail against invasion

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/putins-rabbi-calls-for-end-to-war-in-ukraine-offers-to-mediate/

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berel_Lazar

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/19/trump-jewish-voters-election

 

Trump has been criticised for associating with extremists who promote antisemitic rhetoric, such as the far-right activist Nick Fuentes and the rapper Ye, formerly known as Kanye West. When the former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke endorsed Trump in 2016, Trump responded that he knew “nothing about David Duke, I know nothing about white supremacists”.

 

https://antisemitism.adl.org/antisemitism-in-american-history/

 

 

 

 

30 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

How is Siem Reap these days?

Sounds more like TomTom to me, new record for going on ignore for me

12 hours ago, IDFHero said:

Russia curses Jews but is nothing without them

 

Oh, right, pidgeon English. Better off posting in Hebrew, then we can use Google Translate what you mean.

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