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Israel was a pioneer in the use of targeted drone strikes that it said were aimed at killing Palestinian militant leaders while avoiding civilian harm.

 

However, investigations have shown that Israel loosened its rules of engagement after the October 7 attacks. The New York Times reported that an order by military leadership authorised officers to risk killing up to 20 people in each airstrike targeting Hamas. In one extreme example from July 2024, a strike on Hamas military leader Mohammed Deif killed at least 90 civilians and injured around 300 more.

 

Israel’s own military data also now shows that Israeli officials have both overstated the number of militants they say have been killed and, by implication, the ratio of civilian to militant deaths. Prior to the Guardian’s report, Israeli officials said the military had killed 17,000 to 18,000 Hamas combatants and other “terrorists”. They also implied that 50% of the total deaths in Gaza were Hamas or other combatants. 

 

Gaza: civilian death toll outpaces other modern wars

 

 Israel’s own numbers show the actual civilian casualty rate in Gaza is much higher than the figure Netanuyahu calls outrageous. It is also high compared to other conflicts. 

 

 

 

Fake headline :

Both current  Sudan and Yemen  wars have more civilian casualties than Gaza

30 minutes ago, bannork said:

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Israel was a pioneer in the use of targeted drone strikes that it said were aimed at killing Palestinian militant leaders while avoiding civilian harm.

 

However, investigations have shown that Israel loosened its rules of engagement after the October 7 attacks. The New York Times reported that an order by military leadership authorised officers to risk killing up to 20 people in each airstrike targeting Hamas. In one extreme example from July 2024, a strike on Hamas military leader Mohammed Deif killed at least 90 civilians and injured around 300 more.

 

Israel’s own military data also now shows that Israeli officials have both overstated the number of militants they say have been killed and, by implication, the ratio of civilian to militant deaths. Prior to the Guardian’s report, Israeli officials said the military had killed 17,000 to 18,000 Hamas combatants and other “terrorists”. They also implied that 50% of the total deaths in Gaza were Hamas or other combatants. 

 

Gaza: civilian death toll outpaces other modern wars

 

 Israel’s own numbers show the actual civilian casualty rate in Gaza is much higher than the figure Netanuyahu calls outrageous. It is also high compared to other conflicts. 

 

 

 

 

    That's odd .

When you click on the link above in the link provided , the first sentence is ,

 

Hamas killed about 1,200 people in Israel, mostly unarmed civilians, in its surprise attack on southern Israel on October 7 2023. Using Gaza health ministry statistics, the UN says more than 62,000 people have subsequently been killed in Gaza since Israel launched its military campaign against Hamas. An additional 1,000 Palestinians have been killed in the West Bank. 

 

    which is different to the first sentence that you posted .

Have you been breaking forums rules again by cherry picking sentences from reports and posting those ?

1 hour ago, bannork said:

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Israel’s own numbers show the actual civilian casualty rate in Gaza 

 

   Cannot be true.

Israel hasn't released the number of civilians killed in Gaza

Israel doesn't know the number of civilians killed in Gaza  

 

3 hours ago, bannork said:

17,000 to 18,000 Hamas combatants and other “terrorists”

Thats it? You are screeching over a few so called "innocent" civilians in an armed zone where less than 20,000 have bought it? Thats not a genocide, the National Socialists could do that in a day LOL. Hell, the Brits lost more on the fist day of the Somme.

 

You need at least a million for a real genocide.

Children under 15 years old made up almost a third of outpatients treated for wounds in field hospitals run by Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) in Gaza last year, statistics published in The Lancet reveal.

 

The figures were released by MSF in correspondence with the respected medical journal and come from six health facilities in Gaza supported by the international medical NGO. The facilities are predominantly in the south and centre of the devastated territory.

 

More than 90,000 outpatient consultations involving wounds were carried out at the facilities in 2024. Bombs, shelling or shooting was involved in just under half of these, MSF said.

 

A third of outpatients treated for wounds at MSF’s Gaza hospitals in 2024 were children, figures show

 

 

 

5 hours ago, JimCM said:

They are credible, stop believing Israel lies.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2024/10/13/why-the-gaza-health-ministry-s-death-count-is-considered-reliable_6729264_8.html

 

A 40-page report by the Henry Jackson Society, a U.K.-based foreign policy and national security think tank, has challenged the credibility of the Hamas figures.

Questionable Counting: Analysing the Death Toll from the Hamas-Run Ministry of Health in Gaza

https://henryjacksonsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/HJS-Questionable-Counting-–-Hamas-Report-web-v2.pdf

 

The following  is a paragraph from the report's Executive Summary (page 6):

"This report raises serious concerns that the Gaza MoH figures have been overstated. The data behind their figures contains natural deaths, deaths from before this conflict began and deaths of those killed by Hamas itself; it contains no mention of Hamas combatant fatalities; and it overstates the number of women and children killed."

 

1 hour ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

A 40-page report by the Henry Jackson Society, a U.K.-based foreign policy and national security think tank, has challenged the credibility of the Hamas figures.

Questionable Counting: Analysing the Death Toll from the Hamas-Run Ministry of Health in Gaza

https://henryjacksonsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/HJS-Questionable-Counting-–-Hamas-Report-web-v2.pdf

 

The following  is a paragraph from the report's Executive Summary (page 6):

"This report raises serious concerns that the Gaza MoH figures have been overstated. The data behind their figures contains natural deaths, deaths from before this conflict began and deaths of those killed by Hamas itself; it contains no mention of Hamas combatant fatalities; and it overstates the number of women and children killed."

 

 

References to the Henry Jackson Society from Wikipedia:

 

 

Co-founder Matthew Jamison, who now works for YouGov, wrote in 2017 that he was ashamed of his involvement, having never imagined the Henry Jackson Society "would become a far-right, deeply anti-Muslim racist ... propaganda outfit to smear other cultures, religions and ethnic groups". He claimed that "The HJS for many years has relentlessly demonised Muslims and Islam".

 

In 2020, the Society paid damages to the UK Muslim educational channel Huda Television Ltd, having confused it in 2018 with the similarly named Egyptian station, Huda TV, which it accused of a "radical agenda" and hosting Islamic extremist content.[64]

 

Dr Nafeez Ahmed, executive director of the Institute for Policy Research & Development, criticised the group for hawkishly advocating for regime changes and war-mongering in the Middle East and "hyping up US homeland terror". He wrote in The Guardian that the Society's list of international patrons was like reading a list of 'Who's Who' of American right-wing hawks, and alleged that the think tank was behind Tory foreign policy that serves Anglo-American financial, security and fossil fuel interests in the Arab world.[66]

 

Henry Jackson Society - Wikipedia