18 minutes ago, CANSIAM said:

Its strange that you cannot see the 30-06  42"-44" rifle as he ran across the roof after the shooting, shimmy off the roof and drop 4-5 feet to the ground and continue running. It wasn't in his pants moving like that and that rifle cannot be broken down in seconds stuffed into his back pack and put back together where it was found. Strange........

That was my first question when I saw that video. Where's the 06'? How did it get in the woods? wierd

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Why do you say the rifle can't be broken down?

 

If the rifle has a sling, he can sling it and put the backpack over it.

That type of rifle would take time to be broken down, and if it was broken down beforehand, would take time to assemble, and the scope's aim point could be affected. That rifle was over 3 1/2 feet long. 

Just now, Sully_ said:

That was my first question when I saw that video. Where's the 06'? How did it get in the woods? wierd

Things not really adding up......see what happens lol 

Just now, fredwiggy said:

That type of rifle would take time to be broken down, and if it was broken down beforehand, would take time to assemble, and the scope's aim point could be affected. That rifle was over 3 1/2 feet long. 

The stock comes off with a few screws and the scope is unaffected. 

 

In any event, if the weapon was not taken off the roof, it would still be up there, yes?

 

Or are you suggesting someone else climbed up and took it from the roof, and hid it in the woods.

14 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

That type of rifle would take time to be broken down, and if it was broken down beforehand, would take time to assemble, and the scope's aim point could be affected. That rifle was over 3 1/2 feet long. 

Not only that,  the pic they showed it was assembled, if you did break it down why would you reassemble it to throw in the woods?

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

The stock comes off with a few screws and the scope is unaffected. 

 

In any event, if the weapon was not taken off the roof, it would still be up there, yes?

 

Or are you suggesting someone else climbed up and took it from the roof, and hid it in the woods.

I don't see him on the top of the roof with a rifle running, nor when he goes to jump, while he's jumping, or when he's on the ground getting up to run again. What I had said days ago is that there could be another shooter, that he was on the roof as a decoy. He ran past a few people and cars and no one said anything  or saw a person with a rifle? You think a person's going to take the time to break down a full size Mauser after they take a shot?

Tin foil hat stuff

Just now, fredwiggy said:

 You think a person's going to take the time to break down a full size Mauser after they take a shot?

 

From the time of the shot to the figure running there wasn't enough time for that, IMHO

Just now, Sully_ said:

 

From the time of the shot to the figure running there wasn't enough time for that, IMHO

Of course not. He got up and ran, and nowhere in that video do you see a rifle in his possession.

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

Tin foil hat stuff

Not really , just curious,  and I'm waiting to hear the answers as this unfolds.

15 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Why do you say the rifle can't be broken down?

It certainly could not have been broken down, because when it was found it still had bullets inside. Nobody breaks down a rifle with bullets inside. Plus he didn't have enough time after the shot.

13 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

The stock comes off with a few screws and the scope is unaffected. 

 

In any event, if the weapon was not taken off the roof, it would still be up there, yes?

 

Or are you suggesting someone else climbed up and took it from the roof, and hid it in the woods.

To break down the 06, remove bullets, need to drop the floor plate, take off the barrel band hand guard and disconnect the barrel from the stock. Which makes it only about a 12-15" shorter.  

Assassin' Tyler Robinson wrote note saying 'I have the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I'm going to take it', FBI boss says

 

'The note was written before the shooting, it was in the suspect's partner's home,' Patel said.

 

Patel also revealed that DNA matching Robinson was found at the spot where Kirk's shooter hid, as well as on the towel that covered the murder weapon when it was ditched in the woods by the killer. 

 

Family and friends of the suspect described his politics as veering left in recent years as he spent large amounts of time scrolling the 'dark corners of the internet,' Cox said Sunday.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15099929/Charlie-Kirk-assassin-Tyler-Robinson-note.html

 

And, convinced now, Fred?

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

I don't see him on the top of the roof with a rifle running, nor when he goes to jump, while he's jumping, or when he's on the ground getting up to run again. What I had said days ago is that there could be another shooter, that he was on the roof as a decoy. He ran past a few people and cars and no one said or saw a person with a rifle? You think a person's going to take the time to break down a full size Mauser after they take a shot?

I am not saying he broke it down, I am only saying it is not that difficult. 

 

There are not that many possible scenarios. 

 

He took/dropped it off the roof

He left in on the roof and someone else took it off the roof

He left in on the roof, and it is still on the roof

It was never on the roof, and the guy on the roof was not the shooter

The death was staged with phony blood, like Trump's ear, 

The CIA took him out because he knew too much about Trump and Epstein

Gavin Newsome had him taken out because he had the dirt PP debacle 

8 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Assassin' Tyler Robinson wrote note saying 'I have the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I'm going to take it', FBI boss says

 

'The note was written before the shooting, it was in the suspect's partner's home,' Patel said.

 

Patel also revealed that DNA matching Robinson was found at the spot where Kirk's shooter hid, as well as on the towel that covered the murder weapon when it was ditched in the woods by the killer. 

 

Family and friends of the suspect described his politics as veering left in recent years as he spent large amounts of time scrolling the 'dark corners of the internet,' Cox said Sunday.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15099929/Charlie-Kirk-assassin-Tyler-Robinson-note.html

 

And, convinced now, Fred?

Your links never open. The only thing else I was thinking is that he had a short rifle in his backpack,, like the kind that fits in a short case, and it looks like he has a backpack while running. He may have taken a shot that way, and had someone leave that Mauser in the woods as a decoy. The only way we'll know is if that Mauser matches the bullet by ballistics. If it doesn't then the rifle could have been a short version and disappeared by now, which also could be why he's not talking. Any DNA can help, but again, if that Mauser doesn't match the bullet, there's nothing they can do. 

Did the rifle have a sling? If the kid grew up in Utah, hunting with his family, he could easily sling it and run with it.

 

It would be pretty hard to see on crappy video and a backpack over it, 

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I am not saying he broke it down, I am only saying it is not that difficult. 

 

There are not that many possible scenarios. 

 

He took/dropped it off the roof

He left in on the roof and someone else took it off the roof

He left in on the roof, and it is still on the roof

It was never on the roof, and the guy on the roof was not the shooter

The death was staged with phony blood, like Trump's ear, 

The CIA took him out because he knew too much about Trump and Epstein

Gavin Newsome had him taken out because he had the dirt PP debacle 

Yeah I don't think the exit wound from the left side of Kirks neck is from 30-06 round, maybe Kash and the CIA pathologists report in court will tell us.......😉

1 minute ago, CANSIAM said:

Yeah I don't think the exit wound from the left side of Kirks neck is from 30-06 round, maybe Kash and the CIA pathologists report in court will tell us.......😉

That's another reason why I'm thinking there was either another shooter, or he did have a short version in a backpack and that Mauser was a decoy. A 30-06 would make an entrance wound that size, but the exit out the back would be huge. A lot of answers when forensics and ballistics are told.

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Your links never open. The only thing else I was thinking is that he had a short rifle in his backpack,, like the kind that fits in a short case, and it looks like he has a backpack while running. He may have taken a shot that way, and had someone leave that Mauser in the woods as a decoy. The only way we'll know is if that Mauser matches the bullet by ballistics. If it doesn't then the rifle could have been a short version and disappeared by now, which also could be why he's not talking. Any DNA can help, but again, if that Mauser doesn't match the bullet, there's nothing they can do. 

 

That link opens.

 

So are you saying a note written by the Perp that he will kill Charlie Kirk, and DNA evidence on the towl the rifle was wrapped in and in the spot the shooter was hiding is not enough?

 

Still not convinced?

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Did the rifle have a sling? If the kid grew up in Utah, hunting with his family, he could easily sling it and run with it.

 

It would be pretty hard to see on crappy video and a backpack over it, 

On that video, it looks like he's holding a backpack or shirt. When he jumps, he's still holding it. It wouldn't be impossible to hold onto a backpack with a light rifle after he hit the ground, but not easy. he also picks up something small on the ground before he runs.

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

That's another reason why I'm thinking there was either another shooter, or he did have a short version in a backpack and that Mauser was a decoy. A 30-06 would make an entrance wound that size, but the exit out the back would be huge. A lot of answers when forensics and ballistics are told.

Correct should have blown a huge hole out the left side of his neck with flesh everywhere........it's a pistol wound from behind and to the right of Kirk hmmmm

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

That link opens.

 

So are you saying a note written by the Perp that he will kill Charlie Kirk, and DNA evidence on the towl the rifle was wrapped in and in the spot the shooter was hiding is not enough?

 

Still not convinced?

You have to remember, Trump being shot in the ear was staged, that was not real blood,

3 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Not bs. Facts. Mussolini was a socialist. Do some research boy.

Hey "boy"

 Benito Mussolini was quite literally the father of fascism, there's no debate about this. I mean FFS.

 

Mussolini was a socialist before becoming a fascist. ... Mussolini  founded the fascist movement, which would later become the Fascist Party.

 

https://www.paradigmshift.com.pk/benito-mussolini-fascism/

 

https://www.history.com/articles/mussolini-italy-fascism

 

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/benito-mussolini-1

 

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Benito-Mussolini

 

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-mussolini-invented-fascism/

 

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/benito-mussolini-rise-of-fascism-in-italy

 

https://time.com/5556242/what-is-fascism/

 

https://www.oerproject.com/en/oer-materials/oer-media/html-articles/origins/unit8/fascism-in-italy

 

 

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

That link opens.

 

So are you saying a note written by the Perp that he will kill Charlie Kirk, and DNA evidence on the towl the rifle was wrapped in and in the spot the shooter was hiding is not enough?

 

Still not convinced?

No, they need ballistics to show that rifle was the one Kirk was killed with. Notes mean little. many threats are made daily not carried out. That spot was in a good place, but that shot could have been taken from anywhere around that area, 50 yards or more to either side, seeing the bullet hit from the front. He could have placed that Mauser beforehand in the woods. If that rifle doesn't match the ballistics, they're gonna need more.

40 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I don't see him on the top of the roof with a rifle running, nor when he goes to jump, while he's jumping, or when he's on the ground getting up to run again. What I had said days ago is that there could be another shooter, that he was on the roof as a decoy. He ran past a few people and cars and no one said anything  or saw a person with a rifle? You think a person's going to take the time to break down a full size Mauser after they take a shot?

I think its very possible there's another shooter like you have suggested, there's a video of the killing thats quite disturbing and compelling regarding this..... 

24 minutes ago, CANSIAM said:

Correct should have blown a huge hole out the left side of his neck with flesh everywhere........it's a pistol wound from behind and to the right of Kirk hmmmm

Well, and this is a long shot but, what happens if they find a .223 or pistol round in Kirk's neck, and the Mauser is a 30-06? What can they do to Robinson if he left a rifle in the woods? He could say, "yes, I was planning to shoot, and went up on the roof to get a good vantage point, but then someone actually shot Kirk, and hearing the shot, I ran". Or he was just was a patsy, didn't have a rifle on him if he was nabbed, and seeing he wasn't nabbed, someone was waiting to pick him up on the other side of the woods. He might not be talking, waiting for the authorities to do ballistics, and if it doesn't match that Mauser, what then?

1 minute ago, CANSIAM said:

I think its very possible there's another shooter like you have suggested, there's a video of the killing thats quite disturbing and compelling regarding this..... 

But it would not be another shooter, because if the suspected shooter had no rifle on the roof he was not a shooter, 

 

20 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You have to remember, Trump being shot in the ear was staged, that was not real blood,

I'm thinking it was just a lucky thing he missed Trump, and he was silenced. Getting that close is very strange, and a promise of a lot of money , along with being allowed to get that close, had him thinking there would be a payoff. What have we heard about him since?

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

But it would not be another shooter, because if the suspected shooter had no rifle on the roof he was not a shooter, 

 

If he had no rifle on the roof, there definitely was another shooter.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

I'm thinking it was just a lucky thing he missed Trump, and he was silenced. Getting that close is very strange, and a promise of a lot of money , along with being allowed to get that close, had him thinking there would be a payoff. What have we heard about him since?

I think he's on CNN now