1 hour ago, TDCNINJA said:

Every leftist I know is unhappy, miserable, a drug user, has a criminal record, a history of mental illness, and is sexually promiscuous.

 

In fact, the only time I've ever seen them happy is when someone they disagree with is murdered....

I would disagree only about the sex. The leftist males here arent getting any

11 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

No. The messages on the bullets are anti-fascist messages. Not just "Hey fascist. Catch", but also the Italian old anti-fascist slogan he used. Just because musicians and actors use the "N" word does not mean that word ceases to be a derogatory racist term. Your position is faslse.

 

Also, you are ignoring the FACT that he killed one of Trump's main supporters. So your notion that the killer was a Trump supporter is ludicrous from the outset.

 

You are also ignoring the FACT that the killer was trans and LGBT ally, who was living with a transsexual lover. So he was obviously not a Trump supporter but an extremist left winger.

Hey Fascist. Catch reference to a video game that has been interpreted as a satire of fascism. In any case, interpreting engracing messages are misleading to meant motive. There are history of shooter using misleading to ironic messages in ways that defy categorization. I have yet to see any written evidence of Robinson calling Kirk or others a fascist. If you have a reference, I like to see it. 

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Deranged nonsense.

Says Mr. Happy...

The killer wrote messages with 20 other people on Discord just after the killing, joking he was Charlie Kirk.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15096261/Charlie-Kirks-killer-sick-jokes-just-hours-shooting-activist-dead.html

 

12 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Hey Fascist. Catch reference to a video game that has been interpreted as a satire of fascism. In any case, interpreting engracing messages are misleading to meant motive. There are history of shooter using misleading to ironic messages in ways that defy categorization. I have yet to see any written evidence of Robinson calling Kirk or others a fascist. If you have a reference, I like to see it. 

 

No, you are not referring to a gamer convention, you are referring to a bullet that was used to kill a man with far right views. The bullet's message "Hey Fascist Catch" is Robinson calling Kirk a fascist, he was just steeped in video game lore, so his message was framed in that way. However, the substance is clear. Wired's claim that this is purely video game lore ignores context and substance, if a rapper or actor use the "N Word" that does not mean the "N Word" is not a racist term as well. It is both.

 

We also have evidence that the killer came to a family dinner and preached about his dislike of Kirk and how he spread hate.  

 

We also know he was a homosexual who lived with a trans boyfriend. It is complete nonsense to try and flip the narrative to claim the killer is a Trump supporter. That is ludicrous.

35 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

That's impossible, because he killled one of the main political forces in the US at the time. So he was clearly highly interested in politics. As indeed his use of an old highly political anti-fascist song proves. As does his reference to Kirk as "fascist" proves.

 

In addition,  you are ignoring that there is evidence from the family, who have testified that the killer became highly political in a short time, and raised Kirk's political views at a family dinner.

Nothings impossible when killing is concerned and another;s motives. Look at what minor things people kill here for.As has been said, we know very little about this man besides the fact he lived with a trans and a witness said he appeared to be gay. He was arrested and hasn't talked, and there are reasons for that. There's a good chance he had an accomplice, a decoy gun was planted, and the real shooter can still be out there, especially seeing there isn't a ballistic answer yet. Only if he talks will we know the why. What others have said is still second hand word of mouth, even from the family, who have reasons to not say certain things, and reasons to say others. Look at all the different stories coming from many sources, and he, again, hasn't talked. Hard into online gaming, where some of those things written likely came from, and what people say doesn't always mean it's what they mean. Fantasy , especially in online gaming. ........Experts urged caution in interpreting the engravings, citing a long history of shooters using misleading or ironic messages, often mixing politics and internet culture in ways that defy easy categorization................https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/charlie-kirk-shooting-suspect-fascism-memes-bullets-tyler-robinson-rcna230950..

25 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Nothings impossible when killing is concerned and another;s motives. Look at what minor things people kill here for.As has been said, we know very little about this man besides the fact he lived with a trans and a witness said he appeared to be gay. He was arrested and hasn't talked, and there are reasons for that. There's a good chance he had an accomplice, a decoy gun was planted, and the real shooter can still be out there, especially seeing there isn't a ballistic answer yet. Only if he talks will we know the why. What others have said is still second hand word of mouth, even from the family, who have reasons to not say certain things, and reasons to say others. Look at all the different stories coming from many sources, and he, again, hasn't talked. Hard into online gaming, where some of those things written likely came from, and what people say doesn't always mean it's what they mean. Fantasy , especially in online gaming. ........Experts urged caution in interpreting the engravings, citing a long history of shooters using misleading or ironic messages, often mixing politics and internet culture in ways that defy easy categorization................https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/charlie-kirk-shooting-suspect-fascism-memes-bullets-tyler-robinson-rcna230950..

 

Your'e swalllowing NBC koolaid.

 

Enjoy.

There are many assumptions and theories on why this nut killed Kirk, and some of them are convinced it's political, and it surely can be,as this link notes but in reality, politically involved murders are still rare in the US, most of them on the right side..............https://www.cato.org/blog/politically-motivated-violence-rare-united-states.

Just now, fredwiggy said:

There are many assumptions and theories on why this nut killed Kirk, and some of them are convinced it's political, for a number of speculations, but in reality, politically involved murders are still rare in the US..............https://www.cato.org/blog/politically-motivated-violence-rare-united-states.

 

Of course it's political. He killed a political figure. Who held political views. That were politically opposed to his furry, transsexual and homosexual lifestyle.

 

His own family testified that the perp became highly political, even pontificating at a family dinner about the political views of Charlie Kirk.

 

Don't let Wired, MSNBC, ABC and CBS confuse you. They're trying to obfuscate on purpose, and believe it or not....for political purposes...lol.

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Of course it's political. He killed a political figure. Who held political views. That were politically opposed to his furry, transsexual and homosexual lifestyle.

 

His own family testified that the perp became highly political, even pontificating at a family dinner about the political views of Charlie Kirk.

 

Don't let Wired, MSNBC, ABC and CBS confuse you. They're trying to obfuscate on purpose, and believe it or not....for political purposes...lol.

Him killing Kirk doesn't mean it's political., especially if Kirk said things Robinson didn't like. That makes it more personal. I don't get confused. I just have my theories as I've seen this happening all my life, and the amount of BS from all sides until the truth comes out. Assuming why people do things never works, as you don't know their thinking, even if they themselves tell things. Of course both sides are trying to point the fingers, as that's what they do. That's why it's best to remain in the middle. What someone said his family said doesn't mean anything unless they say it themselves on TV, and even then, grain of salt, because people don't tell of of their true selves, and this family surely doesn't want the world to know what actually went on in the family history.

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Your'e swalllowing NBC koolaid.

 

Enjoy.

No, I look up all I can on the subject, and see ,like always, there are many biased opinions and specultions made, and then there comes the truth, which could be what someone said, or nothing anyone has assumed. How much do we know about the shooter who died trying to kill Trump, and even about Kennedy, over 60 years later? You think there aren't people in high places who didn't want Kirk to disappear? 

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Him killing Kirk doesn't mean it's political., especially if Kirk said things Robinson didn't like. That makes it more personal. I don't get confused. I just have my theories as I've seen this happening all my life, and the amount of BS from all sides until the truth comes out. Assuming why people do things never works, as you don't know their thinking, even if they themselves tell things. Of course both sides are trying to point the fingers, as that's what they do. That's why it's best to remain in the middle. What someone said his family said doesn't mean anything unless they say it themselves on TV, and even then, grain of salt, because people don't tell of of their true selves, and this family surely doesn't want the world to know what actually went on in the family history.

When a drug dealer gets killed, nine times out of ten, it's about drugs.

 

Yeah, it might the girl he traded on for a newer model, but probably not. 

Just now, Yellowtail said:

When a drug dealer gets killed, nine times out of ten, it's about drugs.

 

Yeah, it might the girl he traded on for a newer model, but probably not. 

on that note over out 

8 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Him killing Kirk doesn't mean it's political., especially if Kirk said things Robinson didn't like. That makes it more personal. I don't get confused. I just have my theories as I've seen this happening all my life, and the amount of BS from all sides until the truth comes out. Assuming why people do things never works, as you don't know their thinking, even if they themselves tell things. Of course both sides are trying to point the fingers, as that's what they do. That's why it's best to remain in the middle. What someone said his family said doesn't mean anything unless they say it themselves on TV, and even then, grain of salt, because people don't tell of of their true selves, and this family surely doesn't want the world to know what actually went on in the family history.

Not personal. Complete stranger. It was a political statement.

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

No, I look up all I can on the subject, and see ,like always, there are many biased opinions and specultions made, and then there comes the truth, which could be what someone said, or nothing anyone has assumed. How much do we know about the shooter who died trying to kill Trump, and even about Kennedy, over 60 years later? You think there aren't people in high places who didn't want Kirk to disappear? 

 

Keep looking. You're not looking hard enough.

Just now, Harrisfan said:

Not personal. Complete stranger. It was a political statement.

Many murders daily are to complete strangers, but most are personal, people they know or have a hate for. Again, until Robinson says anything, everything is just theories and assumptions. 

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

Keep looking. You're not looking hard enough.

Until someone posts what Robinson says, it's opinions from others.

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

When a drug dealer gets killed, nine times out of ten, it's about drugs.

 

Yeah, it might the girl he traded on for a newer model, but probably not. 

More likely about money.

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Many murders daily are to complete strangers, but most are personal, people they know or have a hate for. Again, until Robinson says anything, everything is just theories and assumptions. 

Personal means you know each other.

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Until someone posts what Robinson says, it's opinions from others.

He hated Kirk's views on trans most likely. Not rocket science.

7 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Not personal. Complete stranger. It was a political statement.

Think so too that it was a political statement about guns. 

Just now, Harrisfan said:

Personal means you know each other.

And also it means they could have done something that affected you personally, like calling trans people sick, which he could have taken personally for obvious reasons. 

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

He hated Kirk's views on trans most likely. Not rocket science.

You right wingers got to make up your minds on whether it’s about trans, fascism, white man angst, MAGA revolt or whatever is political convenient. Trump is a master on the latter. 

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

You right wingers got to make up your minds on whether it’s about trans, fascism, white man angst, MAGA revolt or whatever is political convenient. Trump is a master on the latter. 

He dated a tranny. Kirk used to argue about what a woman is. Thats why he was famous.

3 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

He dated a tranny. Kirk used to argue about what a woman is. Thats why he was famous.

That’s how a college dropout became rich and famous. 

6 hours ago, KhaoHom said:

 

BLM is a largely defunct (dead) terrorist offshoot and psyop run under the larger Antifa.

 

By using BLM in your username you align with terrorists which evidently the AN board (tacitly) supporting your online presence. You should be banned.

 

Wish it was just fetish, but you and your ilk spread ignorance and hate. The hate that so many weak willed leftists absorb and internalize.

 

You don't get extrajudicial rights. Never gonna happen... Especially now.

 

And here we have the nazi trope again...how tiresome 

 

Oh dear.....

 

 

 

Just now, Eric Loh said:

That’s how a college dropout became rich and famous. 

Social media is mostly crappy stuff. Otherwise he was a nobody. Same with Andrew Tate.

3 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Social media is mostly crappy stuff. Otherwise he was a nobody. Same with Andrew Tate.

Hmm I agree with you. I find Charlie Kirk arguments not particularly strong and tend to badger opponents with intimidating debate tricks. He don’t do well debating Cambridge U students but has more success in American Universities. 

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

Hmm I agree with you. I find Charlie Kirk arguments not particularly strong and tend to badger opponents with intimidating debate tricks. He don’t do well debating Cambridge U students but has more success in American Universities. 

He was a dumb version of Shapiro. But harmless. 22yo is a loser. No good comes from it.

55 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Of course both sides are trying to point the fingers, as that's what they do. That's why it's best to remain in the middle.

 

No, this is not a case of "both sides" are trying to "point the finger". One side pointed a loaded rifle and shot someone dead. And that side is very clearly the ANTIFA/Trans/LGBT side.

 

We know the killer is homosexual, lived with a transsexual lover and had on obsession with fascism. 

 

We all saw Jerry's point about the Reagan shooting, and it's a valid one. But this is not like the Reagan shooting. The perp did not mean to impress a girl, he is a homosexual who targeted Charlie Kirk because he did not like Kirk's right wing views, particularly on trans and LGBT issues. This is more like a real political assassination on the Martin Luther King or JFK lines. Political reasons.

 

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

 

 

55 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

What someone said his family said doesn't mean anything unless they say it themselves on TV

 

No, whether they say it on TV is irrelevant. They have already told law enforcement that as of late the Perp got increasinly political and pontificated at a family dinner about Kirk's views, how they were spreading hate in his view, and he did not like them.

 

The family is on record saying this to the FBI and police. The family is cooperating fully and is telling the FBI all they know. The thing is they don't know everything, as the homosexual perp lived a double life.

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

We all saw Jerry's point about the Reagan shooting, and it's a valid one. But this is not like the Reagan shooting.

At the time I wrote that, I was only trying to say 'stranger things have happened'.

 

But maybe there is a closer similarity -- the 'other' person says he knows nothing about it and is co-operating in the investigation.

 

So possibly -- since it would seem Robinson pretty well figured to be caught -- this is an act of undying/dying devotion to the chrysalis in transition.