11 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

That type of rifle would take time to be broken down, and if it was broken down beforehand, would take time to assemble, and the scope's aim point could be affected. That rifle was over 3 1/2 feet long. 

Some bolt action rifles can have stock and barrel/bolt including magazine separated very quickly with just a screwdriver. (found on roof) I had a Ruger bolt action .30-06 and the barrel/bolt is nested in the wood stock and can be separated with  about 1/4 " bolt from bottom of stock into the barrel 

DNA evidence found near scene of Charlie Kirk’s shooting matches suspect, FBI director says

 

Updated 3:34 AM GMT+7, September 16, 2025  OREM, Utah (AP) — DNA on a towel wrapped around a rifle found near where conservative activist Charlie Kirk was assassinated matched that of the 22-year-old accused in the killing, FBI Director Kash Patel said on Monday.

 

https://apnews.com/article/charlie-kirk-tyler-robinson-dna-fbi-patel-92a643a3f16bce587fd34896ca7f4f76

6 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

DNA evidence found near scene of Charlie Kirk’s shooting matches suspect, FBI director says

 

Updated 3:34 AM GMT+7, September 16, 2025  OREM, Utah (AP) — DNA on a towel wrapped around a rifle found near where conservative activist Charlie Kirk was assassinated matched that of the 22-year-old accused in the killing, FBI Director Kash Patel said on Monday.

 

https://apnews.com/article/charlie-kirk-tyler-robinson-dna-fbi-patel-92a643a3f16bce587fd34896ca7f4f76

The rifle better have some evidence connecting it to Robinson. 

17 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

The rifle better have some evidence connecting it to Robinson. 

From the AP above:

 

Investigators also have used DNA evidence to link the suspect, Tyler Robinson, with a screwdriver recovered from the rooftop where the fatal shot was fired, Patel said Monday on the Fox News show “Fox & Friends.”

 

NB the DNA reference could come from a toothbrush in the house not necessarily directly from the suspect in custody.

 

NB2 re: the rifle: Patel stressed that only the towel wrapped around the firearm has been processed so far — the gun itself is being analyzed by Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives experts in Maryland.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/charlie-kirk-murder-suspect-linked-crime-scene-evidence-dna-match-fbi-rcna231324

 

58 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

From the AP above:

 

Investigators also have used DNA evidence to link the suspect, Tyler Robinson, with a screwdriver recovered from the rooftop where the fatal shot was fired, Patel said Monday on the Fox News show “Fox & Friends.”

 

NB the DNA reference could come from a toothbrush in the house not necessarily directly from the suspect in custody.

 

NB2 re: the rifle: Patel stressed that only the towel wrapped around the firearm has been processed so far — the gun itself is being analyzed by Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives experts in Maryland.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/charlie-kirk-murder-suspect-linked-crime-scene-evidence-dna-match-fbi-rcna231324

 

I haven't read about who the rifle was registered to, initially.

Charlie Kirk suspect's astonishing 'it was me' confession to online chat group revealed just before he turned himself in

Suspected Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson allegedly confessed to the slaying in an online chat before he surrendered to police, it has emerged.

'Hey guys, I have bad news for you all,' Robinson allegedly wrote in a message on Discord, The Washington Post reports. 

'It was me at UVU yesterday. im sorry for all of this.'

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15101319/charlie-kirk-suspect-tyler-robinson-discord-confession.html

 

How about now fredwiggy? Still not convinced?

The Perp has justified his killing.

 

Message found where he says "Some hatred cannot be negotiated with".

 

FBI is going after an extremist left cell in the mountains of Utah. Every single person Robinson texted is being investigated.

 

 

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

I haven't read about who the rifle was registered to, initially.

I doubt very much if there is a requirement to register long-guns in Utah. 

 

25 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I doubt very much if there is a requirement to register long-guns in Utah. 

 

 

Once Maryland is done with the analysis of the rifle there will be doubt whatsoever that the furryfreak did it.

 

Patel’s (Fox & Friends) comments come despite Attorney General Pam Bondi, whose Justice Department oversees the FBI, saying she cannot discuss details of the ongoing investigation.

 

“I can’t talk about details at all,” Bondi said earlier on Fox News.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-presidency-charlie-kirk-repercussions-09-15-25

9 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Patel’s (Fox & Friends) comments come despite Attorney General Pam Bondi, whose Justice Department oversees the FBI, saying she cannot discuss details of the ongoing investigation.

 

“I can’t talk about details at all,” Bondi said earlier on Fox News.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-presidency-charlie-kirk-repercussions-09-15-25

Do you think both or neither should be discussing it? 

 

If it is going to be commented on, it makes sense that the comments would only come from one source, don't you think? 

What is so striking is how dumb Tylor Robinson acted. Using Discord is incredibly stupid. All he had to do was use Telegram, whose servers are in Dubai, owned by a Russian national, and all encrypted.

 

Using Discord means the FBI can get ALL the messages in due course.

 

Though Discord does have 20 million servers, so they can't monitor everything of course.

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

What is so striking is how dumb Tylor Robinson acted. Using Discord is incredibly stupid. All he had to do was use Telegram, whose servers are in Dubai, owned by a Russian national, and all encrypted.

 

Using Discord means the FBI can get ALL the messages in due course.

 

Though Discord does have 20 million servers, so they can't monitor everything of course.

Assuming Tylor is the killed, I feel sorry for him. He is a victim of the left, and his life is over. 

 

That said, if he is guilty, I hope he is convicted and punished to the fullest extent of the law, but I do not want him to burn in Hell for eternity, 

44 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Patel’s (Fox & Friends) comments come despite Attorney General Pam Bondi, whose Justice Department oversees the FBI, saying she cannot discuss details of the ongoing investigation.

 

“I can’t talk about details at all,” Bondi said earlier on Fox News.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-presidency-charlie-kirk-repercussions-09-15-25

The inexperience and incompetence of Kash Patel is piling up. Pam Bondi was right. What Kash said as FBI Director can be use in the defence of the accused that the case has been pre-judged and therefore compromised. Even his earlier statement when he incorrectly said that they have caught the shooter can be used by the defence attorney to creat legal ambiquity of the case to the jurors. That may explain why he is not cooperating. Sound advise from his attorneys. 

A Fox news van had a bomb planted. The suspects were arrested in a house that a flag outside reading "Let's go TACO".

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/utah-man-arrested-after-explosive-device-found-news/story?id=125564512

 

Pam Bondi has said that she will go after extremist leftist groups.

 

Looks like Utah is a hotbed of extremist leftist groups.

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Assuming Tylor is the killed, I feel sorry for him. He is a victim of the left, and his life is over. 

 

That said, if he is guilty, I hope he is convicted and punished to the fullest extent of the law, but I do not want him to burn in Hell for eternity, 

 

He does come across as not fully competent mentally, his behaviour is very odd. Joking non-chalantly about the killing with 20 of his "friends" Just strange after he just murdered someone.

 

Clearly he came from a good family and fell in with the wrong people, trans furry video game addicts of an extreme left ANTIFA persuasion.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

A Fox news van had a bomb planted. The suspects were arrested in a house that a flag outside reading "Let's go TACO".

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/utah-man-arrested-after-explosive-device-found-news/story?id=125564512

 

Pam Bondi has said that she will go after extremist leftist groups.

 

Looks like Utah is a hotbed of extremist leftist groups.

Wouldn't that be an eye opener. Utah deep red state where Trump won by almost 20 pts and Congressional representative majority Republicans is now a hotbed of lefties. How the fortune of Maga has turned in Utah.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

He does come across as not fully competent mentally, his behaviour is very odd. Joking non-chalantly about the killing with 20 of his "friends" Just strange after he just murdered someone.

 

Clearly he came from a good family and fell in with the wrong people, trans furry video game addicts of an extreme left ANTIFA persuasion.

I would not comment on how good his family is one way or another, except to say they seem like a nice family. Their lives are all ruined as well.

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I would not comment on how good his family is one way or another, except to say they seem like a nice family. Their lives are all ruined as well.

 

Yes. A bit odd for the father to denounce his son to police, when he knew Trump was calling for the death penalty for the perpetrator.

 

 

34 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

don't you think? 

That was a direct quote from CNN. From Casablanca (1942)

 

Ugarte: Oh, n-n-n-nothing, but when you first came to Casablanca, I thought...
Rick: You thought what?
Ugarte: Hm, what right do I have to think, huh?

Senior White House officials have said they will dismantle an alleged “vast domestic terror movement” that they claim led to the killing of right-wing activist Charlie Kirk last week.

 

The comments were delivered on Monday on Kirk’s podcast, which was hosted by United States Vice President JD Vance and featured a parade of government officials.

 

“We are going to channel all of the anger that we have over the organised campaign that led to this assassination, to uproot and dismantle these terrorist networks,” said Stephen Miller, the White House deputy chief of staff.

Miller added that “It will happen, and we will do it in Charlie’s name.”

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/15/white-house-promises-crackdown-on-left-wing-terror-after-kirk-killing

4 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

That was a direct quote from CNN. From Casablanca (1942)

 

Ugarte: Oh, n-n-n-nothing, but when you first came to Casablanca, I thought...
Rick: You thought what?
Ugarte: Hm, what right do I have to think, huh?

What I asked was, if it is going to be commented on, it makes sense that the comments would only come from one source, don't you think? 

 

Did you not understand the question? 

9 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Did you not understand the question? 

I am not obligated to respond to your questions.

Okay, so this demolishes the "hit the breast plate"  theory, but is his analysis correct otherwise? 

 

Do not watch at work, very graphic.

 

 

4 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

I am not obligated to respond to your questions.

But you did, you just did not answer them.

20 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Okay, so this demolishes the "hit the breast plate"  theory, but is his analysis correct otherwise? 

 

Do not watch at work, very graphic.

 

 

What is the "hit the breastplate" theory, and what was his analysis? 

9 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What is the "hit the breastplate" theory, and what was his analysis? 

 

There was something circulating online that the bullet hit a breastplate and then broke into pieces hitting his neck, it's been discredited and was never all that credible.

7 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

I doubt very much if there is a requirement to register long-guns in Utah. 

 

You're right , they don't....huh