3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

But you did, you just did not answer them.

That's right.

Trouser Mauser explained.

 

 

Well, the motive is now firmly established.

 

As indicated earlier, the shooter was full of hatred and shot Charlie Kirk for political reasons. He is a leftist and a homosexual who lived with his trans lover.

 

A political assassination.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Well, the motive is now firmly established.

 

As indicated earlier, the shooter was full of hatred and shot Charlie Kirk for political reasons. He is a leftist and a homosexual who lived with his trans lover.

 

A political assassination.

It’s a tragedy not political. Motives established that he was full of hate that could have drove him to such an insane act. False claim that it was political. 

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

It’s a tragedy not political. Motives established that he was full of hate that could have drove him to such an insane act. False claim that it was political. 

 

He was full of hatred, for sure, but this hatred was based on the political expression of Charlie Kirk, who had right-wing views on LGBT and Trans issues.  His own family said he had started to develop left-wing views.

 

It's a false claim that is was not political. It was.

Leaked chats show Tyler Robinson's politics defy media narratives after Charlie Kirk shooting

 

there is this

21 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

He was full of hatred, for sure, but this hatred was based on the political expression of Charlie Kirk, who had right-wing views on LGBT and Trans issues.  His own family said he had started to develop left-wing views.

 

It's a false claim that is was not political. It was.

His close friends said that he was apolitical. He doesn't like Charlie Kirk's views is not binary conclusion that it is political. Could be just a personal insane hatred for Charlie Kirk. 

5 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

His close friends said that he was apolitical. He doesn't like Charlie Kirk's views is not binary conclusion that it is political. Could be just a personal insane hatred for Charlie Kirk. 

 

 The court documents reported that Robinson’s mother said that he “had become more political and had started to lean more to the left — becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented.” 

 

Prosecutors wrote in the court papers that Tyler Robinson, 22, targeted Kirk because of his “belief or perception regarding Charlie Kirk’s political expression.” 

 

 https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/09/16/kirk-shooting-suspect-tyler-robinson/

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

 The court documents reported that Robinson’s mother said that he “had become more political and had started to lean more to the left — becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented.” 

 

Prosecutors wrote in the court papers that Tyler Robinson, 22, targeted Kirk because of his “belief or perception regarding Charlie Kirk’s political expression.” 

 

 https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/09/16/kirk-shooting-suspect-tyler-robinson/

 

And obviously he was severely mentally disturbed.  Or do you think all those 'leaning left' are potential assassins?

2 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

And obviously he was severely mentally disturbed. 

 

Yes, he clearly was mentally "odd". I don't know if "disturbed" is the right word. Yes, he watched "furry" porn. Yes, he called another man "love". No, I guess you're right, he is disturbed.

 

It shows a pecular lack of insight to claim someone is full of hatred, so you go and then shoot them without realising that it is you who is much more filled with hatred. Bizarre.

 

No, of course not all left leaning pople are potential assassins. However, there are now 1600 plus people who have lost their job calling for "make more martyrs" "I'm tired of hearing violence is not the answer"...and other such comments.

 

A group of leftist terrorists has just place a bomb under a Fox news van.

 

So whilst not every left leaning is a potential killer, clearly, it is also the case that the willingness of the left, or rather some leftists, to engage in violence, has been greatly underestimated.

 

I suspect this will not be the case going forward.

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

 The court documents reported that Robinson’s mother said that he “had become more political and had started to lean more to the left — becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented.” 

 

Prosecutors wrote in the court papers that Tyler Robinson, 22, targeted Kirk because of his “belief or perception regarding Charlie Kirk’s political expression.” 

 

 https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/09/16/kirk-shooting-suspect-tyler-robinson/

All 7 charges have no reference to politics. You are only assuming based on your political leaning. 

4 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

All 7 charges have no reference to politics. You are only assuming based on your political leaning. 

 

Actually that is not true. The prosecution made extensive reference to politics.

 

The US has no domestic terrorism charges that could apply in this case. However, one of the charges mentions Robinson killing Kirk for poltiical expression, which is actually an aggravating factor. Hence the charge of "aggravated" murder.

 

How am I assuming, if I am quoting thet left newspaper Washington Post, that is in turn quoting the prosecutor, who was quoting the mother? 

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Actually that is not true. The prosecution made extensive reference to politics.

 

The US has no domestic terrorism charges that could apply in this case. However, one of the charges mentions Robinson killing Kirk for poltiical expression, which is actually an aggravating factor. Hence the charge of "aggravated" murder.

 

How am I assuming, if I am quoting thet left newspaper Washington Post, that is in turn quoting the prosecutor, who was quoting the mother? 

So the shooting of the lawmakers in Minnesota was a loner, and this is different ? 

 

Impressive last weeks posting of you, hammering the same narratives over and over again and again. You transformed in to a AI boot almost. 

 

How do you feel? Really how are you feeling ? What let loose the energy and boost to have a full on mania on the forum you had since this happened? And it seems to be more of the same all over the place at social media, where this have been a release where the long wait have come to an end. 

 

It has a dangerously effect to polarize the political bias to an extend where it becomes lethal and toxic and gives the authorities more power to do and make this to an event it never was from the beginning. 

 

How everything escalated in matter of minutes after the shooting, and continue with such power that changes the whole political environment for ever. Very much the same happened at the 9/11 attacks. The world never become the same again 

On 9/16/2025 at 8:48 AM, Cameroni said:

Charlie Kirk suspect's astonishing 'it was me' confession to online chat group revealed just before he turned himself in

Suspected Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson allegedly confessed to the slaying in an online chat before he surrendered to police, it has emerged.

'Hey guys, I have bad news for you all,' Robinson allegedly wrote in a message on Discord, The Washington Post reports. 

'It was me at UVU yesterday. im sorry for all of this.'

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15101319/charlie-kirk-suspect-tyler-robinson-discord-confession.html

 

How about now fredwiggy? Still not convinced?

It looks like he's involved yes, but I still think he's a patsy. If not, I think others were involved, and if those texts were indeed from him, it appears he's trying not to implicate his boyfriend. When he's convicted we'll know, at least some of it. Hundreds are convinced he's not alone, although he did have a motive, although a weak one to actually shoot someone. People have died for less, especially in this country. Hard to tell what's on a person like him's mind. It could be that simple, or it could involve others. I still don't see any autopsy results or ballistic, which should match the gun for a conviction. Even if he confesses, it might not be enough. 

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

It looks like he's involved yes, but I still think he's a patsy. If not, I think others were involved, and if those texts were indeed from him, it appears he's trying not to implicate his boyfriend. When he's convicted we'll know, at least some of it. Hundreds are convinced he's not alone, although he did have a motive, although a weak one to actually shoot someone. People have died for less, especially in this country. Hard to tell what's on a person like him's mind. It could be that simple, or it could involve others. I still don't see any autopsy results or ballistic, which should match the gun for a conviction. Even if he confesses, it might not be enough. 

 

Why would Robinson agree to be a patsy, and face the death penalty as a consequence?

 

And where is the evidence for this patsy theory?

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Why would Robinson agree to be a patsy, and face the death penalty as a consequence?

 

And where is the evidence for this patsy theory?

I don't think he planned to be caught. There is a lot of theories still around, and seeing this is a person who was very controversial, he had many enemies. although he was right on in most topics. I mentioned the patsy because he wasn't caught with the rifle, and it could have been planted, even if those messages say otherwise. If he was caught running from the roof, that would show he wasn't working alone. 

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I don't think he planned to be caught.

 

That's certainly true.  He was clearly concerned about his safety.

 

He stated he wanted to retrieve the rifle, but couldn't, so there's evidence that explains this.

 

Some are saying there was a second shooter. But there is zero evidence for this, apart from armchair ballistics.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

That's certainly true.  He was clearly concerned about his safety.

 

He stated he wanted to retrieve the rifle, but couldn't, so there's evidence that explains this.

 

Some are saying there was a second shooter. But there is zero evidence for this, apart from armchair ballistics.

There are multiple posts out there that could explain a conspiracy, and other shooters, and if that gun has no bullet, I'm sure his lawyer will fight that, along with the messages. 

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

There are multiple posts out there that could explain a conspiracy, and other shooters, and if that gun has no bullet, I'm sure his lawyer will fight that, along with the messages. 

 

There are conspiracies in the world that are real. But you need to have evidence for them.

 

And at this point there is no evidence apart from the evidence which points to Robinson as being the assassin..

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

There are conspiracies in the world that are real. But you need to have evidence for them.

 

And at this point there is no evidence apart from the evidence which points to Robinson as being the assassin..

And if he isn't convicted because of a lack of real evidence, he'll be a millionaire living on a desert island with his boyfriend, who is helping with the investigation for a reason, and it might not be what they think. People have gotten away with murders where they were the obvious suspect and others have been convicted that were innocent, and this happens in all courtrooms.

 

If this was planned, it's either a real good one, or one that wasn't planned well that still could end up with a different ending. the death penalty , even though they're going for it, in all likelihood won't happen.

 

Most who have commented, thousands, have said they did not see a rifle on him when he left the roof, which means he could have left it for another to dispose of, leaving a rifle that would not be matched with ballistics, while the other rifle disappears. There has been no mention of a found bullet, and some saying that the shooter fired from above left, into Kirk's right side, exiting the left (looking at him), and the bullet might have went into the grass, where it would now be gone with the memorial being built. 

18 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

And if he isn't convicted because of a lack of real evidence, he'll be a millionaire living on a desert island with his boyfriend, who is helping with the investigation for a reason, and it might not be what they think. People have gotten away with murders where they were the obvious suspect and others have been convicted that were innocent, and this happens in all courtrooms.

 

If this was planned, it's either a real good one, or one that wasn't planned well that still could end up with a different ending. the death penalty , even though they're going for it, in all likelihood won't happen.

 

Most who have commented, thousands, have said they did not see a rifle on him when he left the roof, which means he could have left it for another to dispose of, leaving a rifle that would not be matched with ballistics, while the other rifle disappears. There has been no mention of a found bullet, and some saying that the shooter fired from above left, into Kirk's right side, exiting the left (looking at him), and the bullet might have went into the grass, where it would now be gone with the memorial being built. 

He'll be a millionaire, but he'll have to show up for work at Harvard or Columbia, and make appearances on the View and whatnot, so the island is out for most of the year. 

On 9/18/2025 at 4:49 PM, fredwiggy said:

And if he isn't convicted because of a lack of real evidence, he'll be a millionaire living on a desert island with his boyfriend, who is helping with the investigation for a reason, and it might not be what they think. People have gotten away with murders where they were the obvious suspect and others have been convicted that were innocent, and this happens in all courtrooms.

 

If this was planned, it's either a real good one, or one that wasn't planned well that still could end up with a different ending. the death penalty , even though they're going for it, in all likelihood won't happen.

 

Most who have commented, thousands, have said they did not see a rifle on him when he left the roof, which means he could have left it for another to dispose of, leaving a rifle that would not be matched with ballistics, while the other rifle disappears. There has been no mention of a found bullet, and some saying that the shooter fired from above left, into Kirk's right side, exiting the left (looking at him), and the bullet might have went into the grass, where it would now be gone with the memorial being built. 

Kash said they found a screwdriver on the roof with DNA on it. How did he put the rifle back together when he got to the tree area ? spare I guess. The video from the cameras directly mounted above and directly behind Kirk would be handy to view but I believe kirks security team removed them shortly after he was carried away. yes no talk of projectile found is odd as well or medical examiner report ?  

8 hours ago, CANSIAM said:

Kash said they found a screwdriver on the roof with DNA on it. How did he put the rifle back together when he got to the tree area ? spare I guess. The video from the cameras directly mounted above and directly behind Kirk would be handy to view but I believe kirks security team removed them shortly after he was carried away. yes no talk of projectile found is odd as well or medical examiner report ?  

There isn't any way he took apart that rifle and re-assembled it in the time he had. After the shot, he ran immediately and jumped off the roof, and it wasn't on him. The more this goes on, the more it shows more are involved, and the likelihood he wasn't the shooter.

You would think a forensic medical exam report for the FBI would help immensely like most crime seen investigations, you'd have an entry -  exit wound determination and possibly a bullet, very helpful.... wait for the trial or possibly more revealing information will crack open prior to then. Something is obviously off indeed.

Sounds like both shooter and shot had their brains given an extra rinse & spin cycle.