When the Magas here starts acting like "Mitläufer" or a "fellow Traveller" and do not realize themselves, it is about time to remind them about the history behind it. 

 

No matter American or not! 

 

Look it up

1 minute ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

It must be...I Googled.

 

 

Are you going to offer an alternative?   There are a few.

Start a thread. I'd love to discuss it, but I have not interested in arguing over charts people link to. 

 

The problem is that it puts liberals all to the left of center. 

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Start a thread. I'd love to discuss it, but I have not interested in arguing over charts people link to. 

 

The problem is that it puts liberals all to the left of center. 

 

 

Liberals are never to the right of centre!

 

 

(unless they wandered there aimlessly)

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

And he is still able to exercise his right to express his opinion, does he not? No one is stopping him. 

 

He does not have to right to be paid to express his opinion, or to be provided with a public platform to express his opinion. 

 

I have the same free-speech rights as Jimmy Kimmel, why does ABC have to give me a show? 

 

Forcing ABC, to keep Kimmel on the air is compelled speech, and compelled speech is unconstitutional under the same First Amendment that guarantees free speech. c

Ok, so it seems you are ok with people who don't share the "new King's" opinions to be silenced from all media. What then happens if people like Kimmel and Colbert create their own channel on the internet....will they be then free to offer their unvarnished opinions, or will they still be subject to the authoritarian tactics employed by the GOP? 

1 minute ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Liberals are never to the right of centre!

 

 

(unless they wandered there aimlessly)

I am a liberal, and I am right of center. 

 

My sister is a liberal, and she is left of center. 

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I am a liberal, and I am right of center. 

 

My sister is a liberal, and she is left of center. 

 

 

So.................both wandering aimlessly  (or both looking for a new, more appropriate label)

Just now, b17 said:

Ok, so it seems you are ok with people who don't share the "new King's" opinions to be silenced from all media.

No, that is just you lying. 

Just now, b17 said:

What then happens if people like Kimmel and Colbert create their own channel on the internet....will they be then free to offer their unvarnished opinions,

Yes, as countless others (like us) do now. 

Just now, b17 said:

 

or will they still be subject to the authoritarian tactics employed by the GOP? 

They will not be subject any authoritarian tactics employed by the GOP.

 

The GOP will not use the same authoritarian tactics employed by the Democrats. That's what scares the left, that the Trump will use the same tactics they use. 

The thing I noticed is people are saying Kimmel said a horrible thing about Kirk.

In the monologue in question he said nothing about Kirk.

He said that MAGA was desparately trying to distance themselves from Kirk's killer, 

and then he showed the Trump clip where he was asked how he was coping and Trump said "I'm ok, look at the trucks".

 

I don't see why it was a problem.

 

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

No, that is just you lying. 

Yes, as countless others (like us) do now. 

They will not be subject any authoritarian tactics employed by the GOP.

 

The GOP will not use the same authoritarian tactics employed by the Democrats. That's what scares the left, that the Trump will use the same tactics they use. 

I give up...you are unable to see the forest for the trees. Enjoy your freedoms while you can, for they will soon disappear unless you swear allegiance to your new King, who is a 34x convicted felon, an adjudicated sex offender, a compulsive liar and the stupidest person to ever hold the office of President of the USA> 

2 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

The thing I noticed is people are saying Kimmel said a horrible thing about Kirk.

In the monologue in question he said nothing about Kirk.

He said that MAGA was desparately trying to distance themselves from Kirk's killer, 

and then he showed the Trump clip where he was asked how he was coping and Trump said "I'm ok, look at the trucks".

 

I don't see why it was a problem.

 

Did you think it was funny or entertaining to a majority of Americans? 

 

Do you not think ABC should be hire and fire as they see fit?

Just now, b17 said:

I give up...you are unable to see the forest for the trees. Enjoy your freedoms while you can, for they will soon disappear unless you swear allegiance to your new King, who is a 34x convicted felon, an adjudicated sex offender, a compulsive liar and the stupidest person to ever hold the office of President of the USA> 

Bla bla bla 

 

Go with God brother. 

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Bla bla bla 

 

Go with God brother. 

Blah Blah blah. indeed

32 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Liberals are never to the right of centre!

 

 

(unless they wandered there aimlessly)

Liberals have a free mind not bound by left or right, but when the side of power abuses their given trust, it is easier to lean to one or the other side. Either left of right obviously can't have two thoughts at the same time. 

 

When the rethoric s, the tools and the methods gets dirty, it is okay to give clear messages, but for those who goes blood in blood out, can't see one meter in front of them.

 

Locked in at target, no consequences no guilt no emphasis 

3 hours ago, Hummin said:

Liberals have a free mind not bound by left or right, but when the side of power abuses their given trust, it is easier to lean to one or the other side. Either left of right obviously can't have two thoughts at the same time. 

 

When the rethoric s, the tools and the methods gets dirty, it is okay to give clear messages, but for those who goes blood in blood out, can't see one meter in front of them.

 

Locked in at target, no consequences no guilt no emphasis 

 

“Not bound “ …..Yep - splinter ar5es from sitting on the fence.

7 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

“Not bound “ …..Yep - splinter ar5es from sitting on the fence.

I'm not fighting a f stupid war! War against what? Based on what? It's all distractions and nobody wants to admit it

If reality gets in the way of Trump's false narrative, erase history.

 

Fascists do that. Ergo, Trump is a fascist.

 

Until the Kirk killing, a report was on the Dept of Justice website detailing that the vast majority of political violence comes from the far right. That apparently was an inconvenient truth, so the day after the Kirk shooting, the report was removed. It didn't fir the narrative lie being promoted by the Administration.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fact-check-doj-removed-study-173600975.html

 

Elsewhere, in an article on Bloomberg, it noted Trump has asked DoJ and FCC is he can pull broadcast licenses of any station or network that criticizes him, gentle snowflake that he is. Apparently Trump has decided Jefferson and Madison were wrong, and the US doesn't need free speech nor a free press, but rather lese majeste laws.

 

We know from history that making jokes about Trump gets the FCC to threaten license removal of networks, while trying to hang the sitting Vice President of the United States gets you a pardon. Riddle me that, MAGAs.

 

As for Kimmel, his monologue is available on line in its complete form. One had to be really a snowflake to find anything offensive, certainly not in a land up until now ruled by a Constitution containing the important 1st Amendment.

 

And as for Kirk, here is a quite that suggests the guy wasn't exactly a saint. In fact, his "opinions" are infinitely more offensive that anything Kimmel or Colbert of anyone in media or press has ever said:

 

“Joy Reid, Michelle Obama, Sheila Jackson Lee and Kentaji Brown Jackson … We know you do not have brain processing power to otherwise be taken seriously,” he said on The Charlie Kirk Show in a clip that resurfaced as his death. “You had to go steal a white person’s slot to be taken somewhat seriously.”

 

I don't think a guy rejected by West Point, who briefly attended a community college, and never received a college degree is qualified to discuss anyone else's "brain processing power".  He never demonstrated any sort of intellectual superiority. Would it be possible today, I'd be willing to pay to sit him in a room with Ms Obama and Brown Jackson and have all three take an IQ test. Kirk would come in 3rd.

6 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

 

this guy all coked up or drunk ?

 

real glassy eyes for being in front of a camera 

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The conduct of the press was disgusting. 

23 minutes ago, Wingate said:

“Joy Reid, Michelle Obama, Sheila Jackson Lee and Kentaji Brown Jackson … We know you do not have brain processing power to otherwise be taken seriously,” he said on The Charlie Kirk Show 

This is wrong how? 

24 minutes ago, Wingate said:

 

I don't think a guy rejected by West Point, who briefly attended a community college, and never received a college degree is qualified to discuss anyone else's "brain processing power".  He never demonstrated any sort of intellectual superiority. Would it be possible today, I'd be willing to pay to sit him in a room with Ms Obama and Brown Jackson and have all three take an IQ test. Kirk would come in 3rd.

 

Charlie Kirks network at the time death was 12 million dollars.  That's not bad for a college dropout.  How does that compare to you? 

 

 

26 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Fascists do that. Ergo, Trump is a fascist.

What is a fascist these days?  

Brendan Carr, the FCC Carnival Person who threatened ABC’s license over Kimmel’s hardly provocative comments, Tweeted back on 20 February 2020:

 

“From internet memes to late-night comedians, from cartoons to plays and poems as old as organized government itself---Political Satire circumvents traditional gatekeepers & helps hold those in power accountable.

 

Not surprising that it’s long been targeted for censorship.

 

Shutting down this type of political speech---especially at the urging of those targeted or threatened by its message---would represent a serous threat to our freedoms.”

 

Apparently Carr forgot the internet is forever.

On 9/17/2025 at 10:29 PM, ezzra said:

Nowadays, my friend, one has to watch what he's saying, about what and to whom, gone are the days that you could

have said anything to anybody and no one would make anything out of it, No More.

exactly...I feel bad for all those poor Telsa owners that all of a sudden they were considered a Nazi. 

On 9/18/2025 at 7:07 AM, brewsterbudgen said:

Did the Fox News presenter who suggested euthanising the homeless get pulled too?

ABC is under FCC rules, Fox is cable. Was ABC making $$$ with the

show? 

4 hours ago, Wingate said:

 

I don't think a guy rejected by West Point, who briefly attended a community college, and never received a college degree is qualified to discuss anyone else's "brain processing power".  He never demonstrated any sort of intellectual superiority. Would it be possible today, I'd be willing to pay to sit him in a room with Ms Obama and Brown Jackson and have all three take an IQ test. Kirk would come in 3rd.

 

This shows how dumb you are.

 

 

10 hours ago, b17 said:

I give up...you are unable to see the forest for the trees. Enjoy your freedoms while you can, for they will soon disappear unless you swear allegiance to your new King, who is a 34x convicted felon, an adjudicated sex offender, a compulsive liar and the stupidest person to ever hold the office of President of the USA> 

Doesn’t say much for the USA who democratically elected him.

 

 

Everybody makes.   mistakes.

 

Trump is a good example of that

Quite right, he should be fined a lot of money too.

14 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Did you think it was funny or entertaining to a majority of Americans? 

 

Do you not think ABC should be hire and fire as they see fit?

I haven't enjoyed watching any late night monologue since Leno. I tried watching Kimmel in the past and I really don't like him. But, that's me and so I don't watch him. 

 

If he was fired for what he said then I'm not sure it was warranted. Because that opens the door for censorship. 

 

If he was fired because of $$$ then ABC has every right and glad he's gone.

 

On 9/18/2025 at 1:51 PM, Yellowtail said:

I think it was your mommy. She liked them young. 

TRUE   mom was older than dad !

 

but I gotta ask ..  Is that you daddy ?

On 9/17/2025 at 4:28 PM, Jingthing said:

Welcome to the new McCarthyism.

The USA is no longer a free country.

 

And of course JT thinks it's government that cancelled the show.  Sorry JT he was cancelled because the ABC affiliates audiences were appalled at the outright lies he spouted and lack of anything resembling humor.  Kimmel canceled himself by drinking too much of the hate koolaid from the left.