Double post

2 hours ago, khunPer said:

Seems like you still misunderstand, it got nothing to do with what happens in Denmark and Finland. But Denmark and Finland gladly share tax information with Thailand – which is a basic part of a DTO – so the Thai tax-authorities easily can check if income tax is paid either in one's home country or in Thailand, and if untaxed funds are transferred into Thailand. Actually nothing new, the 180-days tax resident rule has been in use for years.

Indeed nothing new and no individual tax audit triggering harsh penalties that we've ever heard of from the Thai side.

1 hour ago, Yumthai said:

Indeed nothing new and no individual tax audit triggering harsh penalties that we've ever heard of from the Thai side.

Indeed there is, even harder than in Denmark...

"In the event that a taxpayer was not able to submit and make the tax payment on time, there are penalty and surcharge to be paid upon submission of tax returns. This also applies if a taxpayer who filed the tax returns within the due date but does not pay the full amount of tax, or file the form late, neglected or avoided filing the tax return, he/she must pay additional fees and fines as prescribed by law. If he/she fails to pay, there might be criminal penalties as follows:

1. In case of failure to pay tax within the due date, additional surcharge of 1.5% of tax amount per month of the tax due and it must be paid within the specified time.
2. In case of filing the tax return on time but the tax amount was not paid correctly, there is a fine of 1 or twice the amount of the tax due, as the case may be. Such fine maybe reduced or exempted in accordance with the regulations prescribed by the Director-General with the approval of the Minister.
3. In the case of intentionally reporting false information or presenting false or fraudulent evidence to evade or attempt to avoid paying taxes, the penalty is imprisonment from 3 months to 7 years and a fine from THB 2,000 to THB 200,000.
4. In the case of intentional negligence in submitting a tax return in order to avoid paying taxes, there is a fine of not exceeding THB 200,000 or imprisonment not exceeding 1 year, or both."

Source link: https://msnagroup.com/late-filing-or-incorrect-filing-of-personal-income-tax/

51 minutes ago, khunPer said:

Indeed there is, even harder than in Denmark...

"In the event that a taxpayer was not able to submit and make the tax payment on time, there are penalty and surcharge to be paid upon submission of tax returns. This also applies if a taxpayer who filed the tax returns within the due date but does not pay the full amount of tax, or file the form late, neglected or avoided filing the tax return, he/she must pay additional fees and fines as prescribed by law. If he/she fails to pay, there might be criminal penalties as follows:

1. In case of failure to pay tax within the due date, additional surcharge of 1.5% of tax amount per month of the tax due and it must be paid within the specified time.
2. In case of filing the tax return on time but the tax amount was not paid correctly, there is a fine of 1 or twice the amount of the tax due, as the case may be. Such fine maybe reduced or exempted in accordance with the regulations prescribed by the Director-General with the approval of the Minister.
3. In the case of intentionally reporting false information or presenting false or fraudulent evidence to evade or attempt to avoid paying taxes, the penalty is imprisonment from 3 months to 7 years and a fine from THB 2,000 to THB 200,000.
4. In the case of intentional negligence in submitting a tax return in order to avoid paying taxes, there is a fine of not exceeding THB 200,000 or imprisonment not exceeding 1 year, or both."

Source link: https://msnagroup.com/late-filing-or-incorrect-filing-of-personal-income-tax/

Do you have any factual evidence of individuals being penalized (significant fines + jail term) regarding personal tax issues in Thailand?

Hearsay does not count.

3 hours ago, Yumthai said:

Do you have any factual evidence of individuals being penalized (significant fines + jail term) regarding personal tax issues in Thailand?

Hearsay does not count.

I don't have evidence about anybody being convicted, I only know the law, which applies for all of us.

 

5 hours ago, Yumthai said:

Actually nothing new, the 180-days tax resident rule has been in use for years.

Yes, something is new: From 1st January 2024 income from previous year(s) are no longer considered as taxfree savings, only funds from before 31st December 2023 comes under the old rule. This is a major change for many, both Thais and expats, as you cannot anymore keep your foreign earnings from previous year to after January 1st, where they magically became taxfree savings. The first new tax return is for 2024, which was due 31st March this year, so what might happen is too early to know....

10 hours ago, Yumthai said:

Do you have any factual evidence of individuals being penalized (significant fines + jail term) regarding personal tax issues in Thailand?

Hearsay does not count.

laws are not optional depending on who ‘feels’ they’re enforced". until a law is officially repealed or suspended by the proper authority, it remains valid and enforceable, whether or not you personally see it being applied ...

 

8 hours ago, khunPer said:

I don't have evidence about anybody being convicted, I only know the law, which applies for all of us.

 

Yes, something is new: From 1st January 2024 income from previous year(s) are no longer considered as taxfree savings, only funds from before 31st December 2023 comes under the old rule. This is a major change for many, both Thais and expats, as you cannot anymore keep your foreign earnings from previous year to after January 1st, where they magically became taxfree savings. The first new tax return is for 2024, which was due 31st March this year, so what might happen is too early to know....

Good explanation,thanks.

8 hours ago, khunPer said:

I don't have evidence about anybody being convicted, I only know the law, which applies for all of us.

 

I urge you to wake up.

 

1 hour ago, motdaeng said:

laws are not optional depending on who ‘feels’ they’re enforced". until a law is officially repealed or suspended by the proper authority, it remains valid and enforceable, whether or not you personally see it being applied

There is no feeling of law unenforcement, it's a fact.

 

Rule makers must ensure that each law is active, obeyed, and followed, typically by punishing those who do not comply with it.

Failing to do so simply revokes the authority any credibility and legitimacy.

 

Sheep People willing, without question, to comply with unenforced law just give authorities confidence to make more and more controlling and oppressive rules (because unchallenged and straightly complied), which is a one-way ticket to full dictatorship.

 

30 minutes ago, Yumthai said:

... which is a one-way ticket to full dictatorship.

following the law leads to full dictatorship ... i got it   

13 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

following the law leads to full dictatorship ... i got it   

It seems you've lost your glasses again or some words are somewhat invisible to you. I bold it for your convenience: unenforced law.

11 minutes ago, Yumthai said:

It seems you've lost your glasses again or some words are somewhat invisible to you. I bold it for your convenience: unenforced law.

please go to the TRD and ask is this tax law enforced or not, that would answer your claim ... 

1 minute ago, motdaeng said:

please go to the TRD and ask is this tax law enforced or not, that would answer your claim ... 

You definitely do not understand what "law enforcement" means and implies.

I surely have no interest to waste time with incompetent Thai administration.

On 9/26/2025 at 10:29 AM, Unamerican said:

Enforce what! And would enforcing any such look like?? 

Probably freezing Thai bank accounts until you file 😂