Their parents never got them vaccinated. As young adults, they faced a choice

Some who received little to no vaccination in childhood sought out the shots themselves in adulthood — and risked family relationships

 

"At 30 years old, Lacie Madison just assumed she was fully vaccinated her entire life. But when she got a job at a hospital and was required to check her immunity, the doctor called with shocking news: It appeared she was barely vaccinated as a child, if at all. “I just said, ‘Are you kidding me?’” recalled Madison, now 39.

 

Madison, who was mostly home-schooled as a child in Montana, is part of a small but growing population of U.S. adults who did not receive routine childhood vaccines — a result of parents skipping or delaying shots for their kids over religious or personal reasons, including concerns about safety.

 

As some states work to make it easier for parents to claim exemptions for many childhood vaccines — or seek to eliminate school mandates entirely — Madison’s experience is one that could become more common as today’s schoolchildren age into adulthood. Falling vaccination rates around the country mean more will grow up without protection from debilitating diseases until they are old enough to decide for themselves, typically at age 18. Delaying vaccines can have perilous long-term consequences, and some immunizations are less effective as people age. [emphasis added]

...

The U.S. is experiencing the highest number of measles cases in 33 years as well as an elevated number of cases of pertussis — commonly known as whooping cough. Experts largely attribute falling vaccination rates to misinformation, which accelerated during the pandemic, about the safety and effectiveness of certain vaccines."

 

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Washington Post

https://archive.ph/PD9DL

Lucky then. Don't need any.

If you live to 18 likely your body is strong and no drugs all the better.

Tell that to the kids and even adults who are being hospitalized, and some even dying, because of the current measles outbreaks in the U.S., which is currently suffering the largest number of measles cases in decades -- the vast majority of them among the unvaccinated.

 

 

 

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html

 

 

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Tell that to the kids who are being hospitalized, and some even dying, because of the current measles outbreaks in the U.S., which is currently suffering the largest number of measles cases in decades -- the vast majority of them among the unvaccinated.

 

 

 

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html

 

 

The leading causes of death among children and adolescents (ages 1–19) in the United States have shifted in recent years. As of 2020, firearm-related injuries became the leading cause of death in this age group, surpassing motor vehicle crashes, which had previously been the top cause. Drug overdose and poisoning rose sharply, becoming the third leading cause of death after a 83.6% increase from 2019 to 2020.

For younger children (ages 1–4), drowning is the most common cause of injury-related death, while motor vehicle crashes are the leading cause for children aged 5 to 19. Among infants (under 1 year), the leading causes differ and include congenital malformations, low birth weight, sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS), and complications related to birth. Unintentional injuries overall remain the leading cause of death for young people ages 1–24 in the U.S..

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html

 

 

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html

 

 

Why the obsession?

Measles

Measles is a highly contagious respiratory disease that can result in severe and sometimes permanent complications including pneumonia, seizures, brain damage, and even death

...

Measles is so contagious that if one person has it, up to 90% of non-immune people close to the infected person will be infected. Infected people can spread measles to others from 4 days before through 4 days after the rash appears.

...

Measles can be serious:

• About 1 in 5 unvaccinated people in the US who get measles will be hospitalized (the risk is higher in children younger than age 5 years)
• 1 out of every 1,000 people with measles will develop brain swelling, which could lead to brain damage
• As many as 1 in 20 children with measles will get pneumonia
• 1-3 out of 1,000 people with measles will die, even with the best care

 

https://www.nfid.org/infectious-disease/measles/

 

4 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Why the obsession?

 

To keep kids, young people and adults from becoming needlessly ill from a highly infectious disease that can easily be prevented, and prevented from spreading, by a simple childhood vaccination.

 

"The measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine is very safe and effective. When more than 95% of people in a community are vaccinated (coverage >95%), most people are protected through community immunity (herd immunity). However, vaccination coverage among U.S. kindergartners has decreased from 95.2% during the 2019–2020 school year to 92.7% in the 2023–2024 school year, leaving approximately 280,000 kindergartners at risk during the 2023–2024 school year. [emphasis added]

 

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html

 

Just now, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

To keep kids, young people and adults from becoming needlessly ill from a highly infectious disease that can easily be prevented, and prevented from spreading, by a simple childhood vaccination.

 

"The measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine is very safe and effective. When more than 95% of people in a community are vaccinated (coverage >95%), most people are protected through community immunity (herd immunity). However, vaccination coverage among U.S. kindergartners has decreased from 95.2% during the 2019–2020 school year to 92.7% in the 2023–2024 school year, leaving approximately 280,000 kindergartners at risk during the 2023–2024 school year. [emphasis added]

 

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html

 

99.999999999% of the population would not read it. You are posting US statistics on a Thai forum. People on here are interested in women, visas and things to do.

51 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

At 30 years old

OMG , she survived without vaccines ?

How is that possible ? /sarc

 

She should thank her parents.

Measles outbreaks due to declining vaccination rates is a worldwide problem these days, including in Thailand:

 

 

--AI assisted

 

Measles outbreaks in South-East Asia bringing cases to Australia

Wed 8 Jan

 

--Measles cases detected in Australia have been linked to outbreaks in South-East Asia.

--Vietnam and Thailand have recorded thousands of infections in 2024, a sharp increase from the dozens recorded in 2023.

...

In Vietnam, the health ministry reported a whopping 130-fold increase in measles cases in 2024 compared to the previous year. There were 6,725 confirmed cases and 13 fatalities, according to state media reports.

...

According to data reported to the World Health Organization by member states, Thailand had 7,507 cases in 2024, compared to just 38 in 2023." [emphasis added]

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-01-08/measles-outbreaks-in-south-east-asia-bringing-cases-to-australia/104789088

 

Measles Surge Hits Thailand: Protect Yourself from Severe Symptoms with MMR Vaccination

"Thailand has reported a significant rise in measles cases starting February 2024, with around 4,000 suspected and 2,000 confirmed cases, where 92% involve unclear vaccination histories.

...

Measles is one of the world’s most contagious diseases, caused by a virus. One person infected with measles can transmit the disease to nine out of ten of their unvaccinated close contacts.

 

The majority of reported cases have been in the southern part of Thailand, including Pattani, Yala, Narathiwat, and Songkhla, as well as Mae Hong Son in the northern part of the country."

 

https://wellmedbangkok.com/measles-thailand/

 

3 people have died in the US from measles this year.

 

19 have died from lightning strikes.

 

If vaccines are so important, why weren’t the border jumpers jabbed before being released into the wild?

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

To keep kids, young people and adults from becoming needlessly ill from a highly infectious disease that can easily be prevented, and prevented from spreading, by a simple childhood vaccination.

Wouldn’t it be more effective to go outside and wear a sandwich board rather than post here?   You could save sooooo many more.

 

 

 

 

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If vaccines are so important, why weren’t the border jumpers jabbed before being released into the wild?

 

Because the measles outbreaks in the U.S. predominantly originate with  unvaccinated U.S. residents who travel abroad, catch measles there, and then bring it back to spread in the U.S.

 

6 minutes ago, Airalee said:

3 people have died in the US from measles this year.

 

19 have died from lightning strikes.

 

If vaccines are so important, why weren’t the border jumpers jabbed before being released into the wild?

Yeah but lefties don't care about facts. Measles is a non top 100 thing.

1 minute ago, Airalee said:

Wouldn’t it be more effective to go outside and wear a sandwich board rather than post here?   You could save sooooo many more.

 

Your  blatant disregard for the health and safety of children speaks volumes....

 

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Because the measles outbreaks in the U.S. predominantly originate with  unvaccinated U.S. residents who travel abroad, catch measles there, and then bring it back to spread in the U.S.

 

But there's a 100 things more dangerous.

Just now, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Your  blatant disregard for the health and safety of children speaks volumes....

 

This is a Thai forum. Nobody here cares about measles. Doctors are employed for a reason.

25 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Your  blatant disregard for the health and safety of children speaks volumes....

 

You’re a very lazy advocate.   Cutting and pasting articles on a Thai forum rather than getting out and actually doing something speaks volumes….

 

11 minutes ago, Airalee said:

3 people have died in the US from measles this year.

 

19 have died from lightning strikes.

 

If vaccines are so important, why weren’t the border jumpers jabbed before being released into the wild?

That just means 19 people died from being unlucky whilst 3 died (and they were children who didn't have a say in it) from something that was entirely preventable. These strawman arguments from you and Harrisfan are neither helpful nor relevant.  

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

But there's a 100 things more dangerous.

 

And when it comes to preventable diseases that can be halted with vaccinations, like measles, you don't seem to care about most of them...

 

The reason the current cases are still comparatively small, but rising sharply lately, is because vaccines rendered many diseases virtually eliminated... such as with  measles in  the U.S., where it was finally declared eradicated in 2000.... until now lately.

 

Are you a fan of a return of polio too?

 

Just now, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

And when it comes to preventable diseases that can be halted with vaccinations, like measles, you don't seem to care about most of them...

 

The reason the current cases are still comparatively small, but rising sharply lately, is because vaccines rendered many diseases virtually eliminated... such as with  measles in  the U.S., where it was finally declared eradicated in 2000.... until now lately.

 

Are you a fan of a return of polio too?

 

Don't you have anything better to do? 

1 minute ago, johnnybangkok said:

That just means 19 people died from being unlucky whilst 3 died (and they were children who didn't have a say in it) from something that was entirely preventable. These strawman arguments from you and Harrisfan are neither helpful nor relevant.  

Anti vax people are not reading Thai forums for medical advice.

4 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Your  blatant disregard for the health and safety of children speaks volumes....

 

Take a look at all of what those two post here. Then you'll understand they care nothing about this subject but are only here to bait and troll. They'll rush to find anything that detracts or contradicts, most of it biased opinions, copy and pasting, just to argue. Not to help or discuss but troll. Them and a couple more make mostly assumptions, even after being shown evidence. Most everyone knows that vaccines have saved millions of lives, and what's been happening to children who's parents haven't gotten them the basics. Deaths from diseases that have largely been eradicated means something. I would guess they've both had all their vaccines as children, yet will argue against them, with the possibility they might be alive today because of them. Again, take some time and read what they post. Two of the biggest trollers here. 

1 minute ago, johnnybangkok said:

That just means 19 people died from being unlucky whilst 3 died (and they were children who didn't have a say in it) from something that was entirely preventable. These strawman arguments from you and Harrisfan are neither helpful nor relevant.  

3 people is hardly even a rounding error.   But you’d love to see me held down and injected against my will to “save the children”

 

 

People who want to disregard childhood vaccinations are inviting a return of diseases like this:

 

About Polio in the United States

"Polio was once one of the most feared diseases in the United States. Thanks to the polio vaccine, wild poliovirus has been eliminated in this country. [emphasis added]

 

The best way to keep people safe is through vaccination. This maintains a high level of protection (also called immunity) in the population."

...

Serious symptoms

A smaller proportion of people with poliovirus infection will develop more serious symptoms that affect the brain and spinal cord:

• Meningitis (infection of the covering of the spinal cord and/or brain)—occurs in about 1 to 5 out of 100 people with poliovirus infection, depending on virus type.
• Paralysis (can't move parts of the body) or weakness in the arms, legs, or both—occurs in about 1 out of 200 people to 1 in 2000 people, depending on virus type."

 

https://www.cdc.gov/polio/about/index.html

Just now, fredwiggy said:

Take a look at all of what those two post here. Then you'll understand they care nothing about this subject but are only here to bait and troll. They'll rush to find anything that detracts or contradicts, most of it biased opinions, copy and pasting, just to argue. Not to help or discuss but troll. Them and a couple more make mostly assumptions, even after being shown evidence. Most everyone knows that vaccines have saved millions of lives, and what's been happening to children who's parents haven't gotten them the basics. Deaths from diseases that have largely been eradicated means something. I would guess they've both had all their vaccines as children, yet will argue against them, with the possibility they might be alive today because of them. Again, take some time and read what they post. Two of the biggest trollers here. 

You guys take yourselves way too seriously. This is a Thai forum. No anti vax person comes here looking to be told what to do. The op could start 500 topics about measles. It won't save 1 life.