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Thai girl was totally shameless

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18 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Have women no shame anymore at all? I mean it's one thing to say you want to fornicate with a carousel of guys just for the fun of it. But it's quite another tell each of those guys that's what you will actually do!

 

Lol.

 

I mean, they just don't care anymore. There's so many thirsty guys, they are sure if one says no, there's 20 others willing to pay for her trip. It's astounding, it really is.

So it bothers you that a) she is honest about it and not cheating behind your back and b) she's doing the same thing  that you've done 🤔 ?

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  • And how about you Cameroni?  No doubt you are happy to stick your tackle in as many young women as possible?   what's good for the goose is good for the gander....

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    Why would a beautiful woman want to be with a smelly guy without remuneration    A beautiful woman needs to be spoilt to death.  I do it all the time, my girlfriend's are gorgeous.

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12 hours ago, Cameroni said:

But you should not approach it with that limitation because SOME girls will not care how old you are. Many will and you have no chance with those, but SOME girls do not care and even like an older guy.

 

Girls normally specify the age range they are interested in on their profiles on dating apps. 

Some girls are so strict they barely go a few years above their own age. And other girls go 15 years up and maybe more. You can try your luck to push the limit, but some girls on their profile I have seen them write they are tired of being harassed by older men. So maybe best not be too pushy and be respectful of their boundaries. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Dan O said:

So it bothers you that a) she is honest about it and not cheating behind your back and b) she's doing the same thing  that you've done 🤔 ?

 

Not it bothers me that this girl is a fraud. She was pretending to be a lonely girl looking for a man. She even told me this, if you read the screenshots of the convo you can see it, she's "just lonely".

 

However, then you see her instagram and she has 99 guys following her,  many tatooed and on steroids, iccelandic bitcoin traders etc etc.

 

And when you offer her to come to CM, all expenses paid, she starts to negotiate like a trade unionist for extra perks. I mean is this a "lonely girl"? No! Clearly not. This is a girl out on the game, trying to make money.

 

She PRETENDED to like me for me. Texting me every day. Flirting on video calls.  But then she has the NERVE to tell me she doens't  want to be tied down and wants to ride the penis carousel!

 

This girl is a total fraud! When I made a very reasonable offer she insisted on a phone and dental work on top, and as non-negotiable that she had to be free to talk to other guys! I mean this girl is not negotiating in good faith at all. She is a fraud!

11 hours ago, Cameroni said:

And why would I bother with sex workers, when you can get a perfectly normal, attractive girl, who's had  a normal body count? It just wouldn't make sense,.

 

Because there is no commitment and no pressure.

 

A real relationship has intense pressure. A real relationship has to work for many years and entails hundreds of thousands if not millions of baht, then need to deal with all sorts of potential problems (ie family members etc..).

If there are kids involved and you separate, now you have a broken family etc.

Way more potential complications.

One reason some women enter the bar scene is because they have already had a failed marriage and they don't want to go through all that drama and pain again. 

 

Lash out with some coin for this 25-year-old. It may be the last time you can.

Her husband / boyfriend may come looking for you :whistling:

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4 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Girls normally specify the age range they are interested in on their profiles on dating apps. 

Some girls are so strict they barely go a few years above their own age. And other girls go 15 years up and maybe more. You can try your luck to push the limit, but some girls on their profile I have seen them write they are tired of being harassed by older men. So maybe best not be too pushy and be respectful of their boundaries. 

 

 

Yes, some girls put age ranges, others don.t. Some will not entertain an older man at all, it has to be 30 max, others will entertain an older man.

 

There is no one size fits all on this. Diferent girls have different preferences.

 

When I see they put maximum 45 or maximum 30, I don't approach them at all. Not because I respect their boundaries, often they put this arbitrary boundaries as nice to have but would have no problem to take someone a little older than that, but because the chances are she is an entitiled princess who thinks she deserves someone of a particular age.

 

And weirdly it's usually the ugliest girls, real fatties, who have the most unrealistic demands and ranges. I just ignore any girl who puts a limit on principle. Not because I think I couldn't get her, but because it tells me she has too many preferences, is too choosy and too entitled.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Not it bothers me that this girl is a fraud. She was pretending to be a lonely girl looking for a man. She even told me this, if you read the screenshots of the convo you can see it, she's "just lonely".

 

However, then you see her instagram and she has 99 guys following her,  many tatooed and on steroids, iccelandic bitcoin traders etc etc.

 

And when you offer her to come to CM, all expenses paid, she starts to negotiate like a trade unionist for extra perks. I mean is this a "lonely girl"? No! Clearly not. This is a girl out on the game, trying to make money.

 

She PRETENDED to like me for me. Texting me every day. Flirting on video calls.  But then she has the NERVE to tell me she doens't  want to be tied down and wants to ride the penis carousel!

 

This girl is a total fraud! When I made a very reasonable offer she insisted on a phone and dental work on top, and as non-negotiable that she had to be free to talk to other guys! I mean this girl is not negotiating in good faith at all. She is a fraud!

Doesn't want to be tired down  = she isn't into you except for money or perks. No sense in crying over it. Either use her company as a benefit  or move on. 

You know my story. My wife is not mercenary and only wants me so i have the life you want right? But that means you have to settle for one yourself. Cant have your cake and eat it too

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8 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Because there is no commitment and no pressure.

 

A real relationship has intense pressure. A real relationship has to work for many years and entails hundreds of thousands if not millions of baht, then need to deal with all sorts of potential problems (ie family members etc..).

If there are kids involved and you separate, now you have a broken family etc.

Way more potential complications.

One reason some women enter the bar scene is because they have already had a failed marriage and they don't want to go through all that drama and pain again. 

 

 

Exactly right. Though of course I WANT the commitment. But not just from anyone. It has to be from the RIGHT girl. So you HAVE to take them out several times and get to know them before YOU commit. There is no way around this. And look what I 'm dealing with! Money focused women negotiating like trade unionists! Ihave had mothers who've kept quiet they had a child. Girls who stole 20000 baht from my bag.  Cheaters. Liars. You can not begin to fathom the dark, deceitful nature of a large portion of women, unless, like  me, you've been in the trenches of modern day dating. They are abominable! Some of these women, I mean, you can scarcely believe it.

 

Like this Phuket girl. Pretending to be an innocent girl, and basically being a hair removed from being a prostitute. It's heart breaking.

 

But you have to accept it, and you have to adapt. You cannot be stuck in old ideals and dreams. You have to adapt. So the way to do that is to have  5 or more girls YOURSELF, because the girls are telling you TO YOUR FACE they want to talk to other guys. I mean the mind boggles.

 

Obviously the long term relationship when it comes is more pressure, more expensive, but with the right girl it's worth it. But only with the RIGHT girl. And let me tell you 95% of women are wrong ones.

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9 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Doesn't want to be tired down  = she isn't into you except for money or perks. No sense in crying over it. Either use her company as a benefit  or move on. 

 

Yes, it may be. Like all really good looking girls she has guys pursuing her like she's the last woman alive. I've seen her Insta. She even told me she's also talking to this one Russian guy. Her insta is full of tatooed steroid guys ,Icelandic bitcoin traders, she can pick and choose.

 

So maybe a 43 year old guy like me is just okay, but not her ideal, it's possible. But i can tell you now, she's far, far, FAAAAAAR from my ideal. Despite her looks. So I'm fine with it.

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9 minutes ago, angryguy said:

You know my story. My wife is not mercenary and only wants me so i have the life you want right? But that means you have to settle for one yourself. Cant have your cake and eat it too

 

Well, firstly that your wife is not mercenary is already a jackpot. But I don't know your wife. Maybe she looks somehwat less of a 10, or her age is above 25, so I'm not sure you have the life I want. I have a good life, :I want my life, just with a hot 18 to 25 year old who is not mercenary, is loyal, trustworthy, fun and makes my life better. You'd think it's an easy ask. It is not. If I'd find her, I'd settle for her. So far no luck.

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3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes, it may be. Like all really good looking girls she has guys pursuing her like she's the last woman alive. I've seen her Insta. She even told me she's also talking to this one Russian guy. Her insta is full of tatooed steroid guys ,Icelandic bitcoin traders, she can pick and choose.

 

So maybe a 43 year old guy like me is just okay, but not her ideal, it's possible. But i can tell you now, she's far, far, FAAAAAAR from my ideal. Despite her looks. So I'm fine with it.

Yes,it certainly sounds like you are fine with it, hahahah what a loser whinging   nonstop.Get over yourself,.

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14 minutes ago, Grumpy one said:

Lash out with some coin for this 25-year-old. It may be the last time you can.

Her husband / boyfriend may come looking for you :whistling:

 

You know, I'm not gonna lie, :I did consider it, just because she was very hot. White skin, gorgeous legs, thick black long hair, fun and interesting attitude.

 

However, this mercenary, money focused attitude she has has more or less killed my attraction for her. Yes, gold digging is a an attraction killer. Just the way it is.

 

I would have no problem going with the CM girl and BKK girl instead. And I have a virgin in Nakhom Phanom and two girls in Phil in reserve, just in case. It sounds underhand, but you have to adapt. Look what you have to deal with. You cannot put all your eggs in one basket. If I had done that, more than once I would have deeply regretted it. I'm very glad I have 6 on the go. If one turns out to be a wrong one, like this Phuket girl, it's regrettable, but I can just get on with my life.

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2 minutes ago, theshu25 said:

Yes,it certainly sounds like you are fine with it, hahahah what a loser whinging   nonstop.Get over yourself,.

 

No ultimately it's fine. Is it disappointing? After 2 months of her pretending to be someone else entirely, of course. Would I have liked for it to turn out differently - sure. But I'm not bitter. She's a money focused semi-professional. So one down, 5 to go. I'm fine with it. I'm not bitter.

2 hours ago, emptypockets said:

1600 over two months??

Haha. Cheap Charlie!

No, he said 16000.

19 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

So maybe a 43 year old guy like me is just okay

You lost eleven years overnight?

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3 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

No, he said 16000.

 

You are paying attention! Excelllent job!

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Just now, KannikaP said:

You lost eleven years overnight?

 

No, because I told her I'm 43.

 

I was speaking from her perspective as it were. And she thinks I'm 43.

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

You are paying attention! Excelllent job!

Yeh, I found all my dementia pills, and went to the bank to pay them this morning. 

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

No, because I told her I'm 43.

 

I was speaking from her perspective as it were. And she thinks I'm 43.

What a fantastic liar you are. An answer/excuse for everything. 

32 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Well, firstly that your wife is not mercenary is already a jackpot. But I don't know your wife. Maybe she looks somehwat less of a 10, or her age is above 25, so I'm not sure you have the life I want. I have a good life, :I want my life, just with a hot 18 to 25 year old who is not mercenary, is loyal, trustworthy, fun and makes my life better. You'd think it's an easy ask. It is not. If I'd find her, I'd settle for her. So far no luck.

At least MalcolmB doesnt pretend like hes settling for anyone. When you have a negative perception of women there wont be anyone good enough

11 hours ago, Hummin said:

As a man you have to calculate your value, her value up against what each brings in to the relationship! 

 

Im happy being the provider and she do her thing and make sure it runs smoothly. 

 

Our livingcost at the farm is not more than I have to pay for electric a month in Europe for an average sized appartment our small house on one flat. 

 

As long happiness score is above average, why complain? 

 

Sounds like a normal, healthy sustainable relationship. Woman not sitting around on her phone all day on the dating sites and chat, as I imagine Cameroni's 'girls' are doing. Keeping the other guys on a string just in case.

He will not ever be able to relax with his freelance women. It's just a joke. He knows they are sex workers, but just doesn't want to really know they are sex workers. 

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40 minutes ago, angryguy said:

At least MalcolmB doesnt pretend like hes settling for anyone. When you have a negative perception of women there wont be anyone good enough

 

Oh there'll be someone good enough. I already have two other girls that could be just that and where I have high hopes.

 

Most girls are not good enough though. That's not said lightly. That's from cold hard experience in the trenches of modern dating. A lot of these girls are just of very poor character.

 

Look at this Phuket girl for instance. After two months proclaims "Just so you know, I don't want to be tied down. I want my freedom. I don't want anyone yet". So why are you texting me for 2 months?

 

I mean these women don't make any sense. My negative perception is, sadly, founded on emprical evidence.

 

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he will not ever be able to relax with his freelance women. It's just a joke. He knows they are sex workers,

 

I avoid freelance women and sex workers. None of my girls are in that category. When I sound out a girl like this Phuket girl and she's overly focused on money, she already gets disqualified.

 

 

13 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

If you're telling me you never paid for women, and they just bought you stuff, not viceversa, then yes, I know you're lying.

 

And you clearly live in a fantasy world. 

 

All men pay for their women.

 

No exceptions. Not even you.

 

Is that what I told you or are you only seeing the parts that you want to see? Did you read the rest of the sentence?

 

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Of course you are in it together and everything is in the pot once she's proved herself. 

 

Once the trust is there, you don't have to think about it again. I have full access to her bank accounts, email, phone.. Nothing to hide. You need a private detective and even then you'd be nervous. Which way is better do you think?

31 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

That's from cold hard experience in the trenches of modern dating.

Do you really think you are dating? Do you discuss things you both enjoy, get up early and go for a walk in the park. Do you enjoy cooking good food together? You may have some sort of relationship but I would not call it dating. Would you fly her up to Chiang Mai if you were not sure you were going to get laid. 

23 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Oh there'll be someone good enough. I already have two other girls that could be just that and where I have high hopes.

 

Most girls are not good enough though. That's not said lightly. That's from cold hard experience in the trenches of modern dating. A lot of these girls are just of very poor character.

 

Look at this Phuket girl for instance. After two months proclaims "Just so you know, I don't want to be tied down. I want my freedom. I don't want anyone yet". So why are you texting me for 2 months?

 

I mean these women don't make any sense. My negative perception is, sadly, founded on emprical evidence.

 

High hopes indeed.

Think about it for a moment...

Does a 'hot' 24 year old need a dating site to meet guys? They do not. It's a job. A side line. You are their job. You are meeting sex workers and then using that to judge all women. Everyone reading here knows they are sex workers looking for a sugar daddy. Even you. 

As long as they don't shove it in your face, you can try to maintain the illusion. But when they sit on their phone all day with nothing to say to you, unless you are taking them out shopping and spending money on them, you get nervous and want to check.

You are looking for sex workers on the cheap. No different from the ten of thousands who went before you.

What's your plan for these women? Are they going to sit on their phones all day whilst you sit in front of your laptop obsessing over money? 

What next? Front up money for a beauty salon?

At least your threads invite comment and discussion, I'll give you that.

 

 

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes, it may be. Like all really good looking girls she has guys pursuing her like she's the last woman alive. I've seen her Insta. She even told me she's also talking to this one Russian guy. Her insta is full of tatooed steroid guys ,Icelandic bitcoin traders, she can pick and choose.

 

So maybe a 43 year old guy like me is just okay, but not her ideal, it's possible. But i can tell you now, she's far, far, FAAAAAAR from my ideal. Despite her looks. So I'm fine with it.

Make your mind up. Are you 43 or 54 or a complete liar?

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28 minutes ago, BatteringRam said:

Once the trust is there, you don't have to think about it again.

 

It's all very well talking about "trust". But "trust" only comes into play when several other pre-requisites are satisfied. First, attraction, second her character has been vetted sufficiently to enable you to invest your trust in her. These things take tme and don't happen overnight. Trust in particular is built after considerable time.

 

So this presupposes you have already chosen a particular girl that you can put your trust in. Imagine, if I had just blindly placed my trust in Phuket Girl? Pretty soon it would have ended in severe disappointment.

 

So before you put your trust in anyone you have to do considerable due diligence.

 

3 minutes ago, BatteringRam said:

I have full access to her bank accounts, email, phone.. Nothing to hide.

 

As indeed it should be. And I have full access to my BKK girl's bank accounts, email and phone. Over time that should indeed by the case. Of course that fact that you request access to her bank accounts, email and phone shows that you are smart enough to understaand that trust is not an "absolute" but a "variable". Or else you would not ask for access to the things, which btw is of course the right thing to do. Trust is a variable. It can change.

 

4 minutes ago, BatteringRam said:

You need a private detective and even then you'd be nervous.

 

No I didn't. I hired the private detective on the advice of my father to check out a Filipina where things were getting serious. That girl also gave me access to her Facebook and passowrds to her email and so on, but she was extremely dishonest and was hiding things. In her case a thorough investigation was warranted, but I did not need private investigators. They were useless. My own investigation was far more successful.

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How people keep falling for your trolling is a miracle to me.

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29 minutes ago, BatteringRam said:

Does a 'hot' 24 year old need a dating site to meet guys? They do not. It's a job. A side line. You are their job. You are meeting sex workers and then using that to judge all women. Everyone reading here knows they are sex workers looking for a sugar daddy. Even you. 

 

Phuket girl may or may not be a sex worker, but that's the whole point, she is being weeded out for what she truly is. And then will be disqualified from any long term access due to her excessive focus on money. I don't want women like this.

 

29 minutes ago, BatteringRam said:

But when they sit on their phone all day with nothing to say to you

 

Almost all girls today are on their phone non-stop. The CM girl was a local and most definitely not a sex worker, and very busy on her phone. It's how girls are now.

 

29 minutes ago, BatteringRam said:

You are looking for sex workers on the cheap.

 

No, I'm looking  for the exact opposite. It's like you don't understand English.

 

29 minutes ago, BatteringRam said:

What's your plan for these women?

 

If she were a girl of quality, ie trustworthy, not overly obsessed with money, loyal, attractive, fun, and made my life better in every way, then of course I would make her life better too. But in the case of Phuket girl my plan is a hard pass.

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