1 hour ago, bubblegum said:

Here’s an excerpt paraphrased and translated from the minutes of the 5 June 1934 meeting of Nazi jurists (the “Second Meeting of the Commission on Criminal Law Reform”). The original German record is preserved in the Reich Ministry of Justice archives, and quoted in James Q. Whitman’s Hitler’s American Model (Princeton University Press, 2017, pp. 70–71).

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🗒️ Excerpt (translated summary):

One participant [Ministerialrat Dr. Stuckart] remarked that American states have achieved a “great deal” in defining the “colored” population and prohibiting their intermarriage with whites. The group noted that in some U.S. states, even “one drop of Negro blood” sufficed to classify a person as non-white, whereas other states required a higher proportion.

Another speaker pointed out that the American definitions were inconsistent and “not entirely satisfactory for our purposes,” because they relied too much on appearance or self-identification rather than ancestry. The consensus was that Germany should develop a clearer blood-based standard—perhaps two or three Jewish grandparents—as the criterion for legal classification.

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📚 What this shows

• They had direct, detailed knowledge of U.S. state race laws (especially anti-miscegenation statutes).

• They debated which parts might be useful and which were “too crude” or “too extreme.”

• They sought to rationalize racial classification more systematically — and the result was the Nuremberg Laws of 1935, which indeed adopted ancestry thresholds almost exactly as discussed in this meeting.

 

Give it a rest. The attempt to tie Nazi  discrimination to the US discriminatory practices is motivated by political bias and an attempt to denigrate the USA and to justify or excuse the wrongdoings of others. There is no denying the evil of Jim Crow or the injustice that people of colour faced in the USA, however, the practices and activities in the USA post slavery are not comparable.  

 

Your position ignores the history of the Weimar Republic. Germany post 1919, was a liberal paradise. Art, Cinema, literature and the performing arts were free of previous restraints. Sexuality and hedonism was explored. Human rights and interest in the cultures of others blossomed. Scientific advances were abundant. The Nazis were opposed to that and their laws simply were an extreme and rapid return to discriminatory and intolerant practices of the "good old days" of pre WWI  Germany. 

20 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Give it a rest. The attempt to tie Nazi  discrimination to the US discriminatory practices is motivated by political bias and an attempt to denigrate the USA and to justify or excuse the wrongdoings of others. There is no denying the evil of Jim Crow or the injustice that people of colour faced in the USA, however, the practices and activities in the USA post slavery are not comparable.  

 

Your position ignores the history of the Weimar Republic. Germany post 1919, was a liberal paradise. Art, Cinema, literature and the performing arts were free of previous restraints. Sexuality and hedonism was explored. Human rights and interest in the cultures of others blossomed. Scientific advances were abundant. The Nazis were opposed to that and their laws simply were an extreme and rapid return to discriminatory and intolerant practices of the "good old days" of pre WWI  Germany. 

Indeed, just the the good old days the GOP wants to return to.

1 hour ago, bubblegum said:

Indeed, just the the good old days the GOP wants to return to.

You like most lefties are intellectual lightweights. 

2 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

The Nazis were opposed to that and their laws simply were an extreme and rapid return to discriminatory and intolerant practices of the "good old days" of pre WWI  Germany. 

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Total nonsense of course. the Nazis were not opposed to science, scientific advance  and themselves greatly promoted interest in other cultures. I've seen it myself and held in my hands a Nazi booklet on the Ainu people, an ethnic group in Japan, the SS was basically a precursor to the United Nations in its internationalism. In terms of science, the Nazis have produced pretty much all of the scientific advances that made the modern world, rockets for space exploration, jet travel, medicines common today, breaktrhoughs in Physics, the first modern computer,  all happened under the Nazis, here's a short list:

 

Major scientific and technological advances included:

 

Aeronautics and Rocketry

 

Ballistic Missiles: The V-2 rocket (A4) was the world's first long-range guided ballistic missile and the first man-made object to reach space, forming the foundation for American and Soviet space programs, including the Apollo moon missions.

 

Cruise Missiles: The V-1 flying bomb was an early pulsejet-powered cruise missile used as a "vengeance weapon" against Allied cities.

 

Jet Aircraft: The Messerschmitt Me 262 was the world's first operational jet-powered fighter aircraft to see combat. Other designs, such as the Arado Ar 234 jet bomber, were also developed.

 

Helicopters: Anton Flettner developed advanced helicopters, including the Fl 282 Kolibri, which was highly maneuverable and reliable for its time and led to the concept of armed helicopter use.

 

Swept-Wing Design: German engineers experimented with swept wings (e.g., on the Me 262 and the P.1101 prototype), a design that later became standard for high-speed jet aircraft. 

Physics and Chemistry

 

Nuclear Fission: The scientific basis for the use of nuclear energy was established with the 1938 discovery of nuclear fission by Otto Hahn and Fritz Strassmann in Berlin.

 

Nerve Agents: Scientists at I.G. Farben developed the first military nerve agents, including sarin and soman.

 

Synthetic Materials: Due to resource shortages, German chemists developed processes for producing synthetic rubber, synthetic fuel from coal liquefaction, and new plastics like nylon-6.

 

DDT Insecticide: The insecticide DDT was invented by German scientist Paul Hermann Müller in 1939, for which he was later awarded a Nobel Prize (after the war). 

 

Computing and Electronics

 

Programmable Computers: Konrad Zuse created the Z3 in 1941, the world's first functional program-controlled, "Turing-complete" digital computer.

 

Magnetic Tape Recording: AEG developed the Magnetophon, an audio tape recorder that offered high-fidelity sound reproduction, a technology unknown to the Allies until the war's end and which revolutionized the post-war recording industry.

 

Night Vision: The German army was the first to deploy portable night-vision devices, such as the "Vampir" system for the StG 44 assault rifle.

 

Electron Microscope: Manfred von Ardenne developed an electron microscope with a magnification of 500,000 times. 

 

In fact, the Nazis thought they were avantgarde, copying the race segregation laws of the United States.

8 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

The current trend of equating  modern era populist movements to the nazis is both lazy and tiresome.  Just as Brexiteers and Farage's reformers are labeled nazis, so too are leaders like the new PM of Japan or Italy's Meloni. It is the typical fixing of labels. People who are opposed to  some Trump policies are often called "communist".  Whitman has allowed his pre-existing sentiments to sway his conclusions.

 

These people have no idea how bad the Nazi’s were. 

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

nonsense of course. the Nzzis were not opposed to science, scientific advance  and themselves greatly promoted interest in other cultures. I've seen it myself and held in my hands a Nazi booklet on the Ainu people, an ethnic group in Japan, the SS was basically a precursor to the United Nations in its internationalism. In terms of science, the Nazis have produced pretty much all of the scientific advances that made the modern world, rockets for space exploration, jet travel, medicines common today, breaktrhoughs in Physics, the first modern computer,  all happened under the Nazis, here's a short list:

They were so advanced they got their assed kicked in WWII by Radar, HUFF DUFF, and proximally fuses. 

5 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

These people have no idea how bad the Nazi’s were. 

True. On November 11,  I will be remembering the service my family members made in the US Army, RAF, RCAF and RCA to stop the Nazis and their Japanese accomplices.

2 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

True. On November 11,  I will be remembering the service my family members made in the US Army, RAF, RCAF and RCA to stop the Nazis and their Japanese accomplices.

All the young men who died in WW2 need to remembered.  

 

About 20 years ago I was taking a walk about town and saw an old man having a hard time airing up his tires.  I stopped to help.   Then I noticed was wearing a Maine 2 Division had.  I asked him about it.  Turns out he was a young man he stormed the breach at Tarawa.   It was nice to meet him. 

4 hours ago, GoodieAfterDark said:

 

Let's assume that Nazi Germany was a real white society at elite level. I see similarities between Trump and Hitler, both seem to be pro Zionists. And both Hitler and Trump seem to be Kosher certified. Did Wall Street finance Hitler? Wall Street just happens to be located in NY and the UN headquarters  too. In 1831 the gates of NY were opened to the Russian Bolsheviks that just happen to be 99 % Kosher. And a few years back we have the Russian Communist Revolution and Lenin look very Aryan, or not? And all those dollars circulating in Russia to finance the revolution at that time came from somewhere...

Hitler was jewish too, right? As was Lenin.

39 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

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Total nonsense of course. the Nazis were not opposed to science, scientific advance  and themselves greatly promoted interest in other cultures. I've seen it myself and held in my hands a Nazi booklet on the Ainu people, an ethnic group in Japan, the SS was basically a precursor to the United Nations in its internationalism. In terms of science, the Nazis have produced pretty much all of the scientific advances that made the modern world, rockets for space exploration, jet travel, medicines common today, breaktrhoughs in Physics, the first modern computer,  all happened under the Nazis, here's a short list:

 

Major scientific and technological advances included:

 

Aeronautics and Rocketry

 

Ballistic Missiles: The V-2 rocket (A4) was the world's first long-range guided ballistic missile and the first man-made object to reach space, forming the foundation for American and Soviet space programs, including the Apollo moon missions.

 

Cruise Missiles: The V-1 flying bomb was an early pulsejet-powered cruise missile used as a "vengeance weapon" against Allied cities.

 

Jet Aircraft: The Messerschmitt Me 262 was the world's first operational jet-powered fighter aircraft to see combat. Other designs, such as the Arado Ar 234 jet bomber, were also developed.

 

Helicopters: Anton Flettner developed advanced helicopters, including the Fl 282 Kolibri, which was highly maneuverable and reliable for its time and led to the concept of armed helicopter use.

 

Swept-Wing Design: German engineers experimented with swept wings (e.g., on the Me 262 and the P.1101 prototype), a design that later became standard for high-speed jet aircraft. 

Physics and Chemistry

 

Nuclear Fission: The scientific basis for the use of nuclear energy was established with the 1938 discovery of nuclear fission by Otto Hahn and Fritz Strassmann in Berlin.

 

Nerve Agents: Scientists at I.G. Farben developed the first military nerve agents, including sarin and soman.

 

Synthetic Materials: Due to resource shortages, German chemists developed processes for producing synthetic rubber, synthetic fuel from coal liquefaction, and new plastics like nylon-6.

 

DDT Insecticide: The insecticide DDT was invented by German scientist Paul Hermann Müller in 1939, for which he was later awarded a Nobel Prize (after the war). 

 

Computing and Electronics

 

Programmable Computers: Konrad Zuse created the Z3 in 1941, the world's first functional program-controlled, "Turing-complete" digital computer.

 

Magnetic Tape Recording: AEG developed the Magnetophon, an audio tape recorder that offered high-fidelity sound reproduction, a technology unknown to the Allies until the war's end and which revolutionized the post-war recording industry.

 

Night Vision: The German army was the first to deploy portable night-vision devices, such as the "Vampir" system for the StG 44 assault rifle.

 

Electron Microscope: Manfred von Ardenne developed an electron microscope with a magnification of 500,000 times. 

 

In fact, the Nazis thought they were avantgarde, copying the race segregation laws of the United States.

Jewish physics anyone?

The scientific exodus from Nazi Germany
Beginning in 1933, hundreds of physicists and other academics fled the country, transforming their lives and the global scientific landscape.

https://physicstoday.aip.org/news/the-scientific-exodus-from-nazi-germany

 

Germany's prowess in science had nothing to do with the Nazis. It preceded them by decades. The Nazis kneecapped German scientific research thanks to their anti-Semitism.

Or do you believe that scientific research in Nazi Germany benefited from the absence of Jewish Germans?

3 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Germany's prowess in science had nothing to do with the Nazis.

 

To claim German academic success was due to the Nazis would be just as ludicrous as claiming it was due to a jewish minority, nobody made this outlandish claim. Rather Patpong suggested the Nazis opposed scientific advance.

 

Given that humanity's greatest scientifi/technological advances were achieved and overseen by the Nazis, that is clearly a false claim. The incredible list of scientific and technological successes speaks for itself. The Nazis did not oppose scientific advance.

 

4 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

The Nazis kneecapped German scientific research thanks to their anti-Semitism

 

What a brutally inaccurate claim yet again, the Nazis did no such thing. Rather they trimmed a few branches of some shimmering leaves and flowers, but the strong tree of German academia was still strong, productive and yielded delicious fruit.

 

4 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

The scientific exodus from Nazi Germany

 

The exodus of the jews, in terms of scientific impact in Germany, is massively exaggerated. In reality of course Germany still had more brilliant scientists than anyone else, despite the Jewish exodus.

 

Whilst Einstein left, Germany still had Heisenberg, who was arguably a greater physicist than Einstein ever was, plus a whole cadre of exceptional scientists., Max Planck, Otto Hahn, Werner von Braun, Otto Hahn, and many, many more still powered German science onwards and upwards.

 

Until the Allies of course knee-capped German academia after 1945, not the Nazis. So in reality the real opponents of science were the Allies, though of course they stole all the scientists and know-how they could with Operation Paperclip.

 

Whilst there were successful jewish academics in Germany, there were far more in Germany itself, even after the exodus. 

 

What really caused German dominance in science at the time, was the superb academic environment, which also suckled at its teats jews and other foreign elements, who benefitted greatly from this. Famously Oppenheimer himself studied in Germany. He was lucky that Heisenberg purposely sabotaged the German endeavour to secure a nuclear bomb, so as not to put it in the hands of Hitler.

 

 

18 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

To claim German academic success was due to the Nazis would be just as ludicrous as claiming it was due to a jewish minority, nobody made this outlandish claim. Rather Patpong suggested the Nazis opposed scientific advance.

 

Given that humanity's greatest scientifi/technological advances were achieved and overseen by the Nazis, that is clearly a false claim. The incredible list of scientific and technological successes speaks for itself. The Nazis did not oppose scientific advance.

 

 

What a brutally inaccurate claim yet again, the Nazis did no such thing. Rather they trimmed a few branches of some shimmering leaves and flowers, but the strong tree of German academia was still strong, productive and yielded delicious fruit.

 

 

The exodus of the jews, in terms of scientific impact in Germany, is massively exaggerated. In reality of course Germany still had more brilliant scientists than anyone else, despite the Jewish exodus.

 

Whilst Einstein left, Germany still had Heisenberg, who was arguably a greater physicist than Einstein ever was, plus a whole cadre of exceptional scientists., Max Planck, Otto Hahn, Werner von Braun, Otto Hahn, and many, many more still powered German science onwards and upwards.

 

Until the Allies of course knee-capped German academia after 1945, not the Nazis. So in reality the real opponents of science were the Allies, though of course they stole all the scientists and know-how they could with Operation Paperclip.

 

Whilst there were successful jewish academics in Germany, there were far more in Germany itself, even after the exodus. 

 

What really caused German dominance in science at the time, was the superb academic environment, which also suckled at its teats jews and other foreign elements, who benefitted greatly from this. Famously Oppenheimer himself studied in Germany. He was lucky that Heisenberg purposely sabotaged the German endeavour to secure a nuclear bomb, so as not to put it in the hands of Hitler.

 

 

 

The scientific exodus from Nazi Germany
Beginning in 1933, hundreds of physicists and other academics fled the country, transforming their lives and the global scientific landscape. 

The names in the physics section read like a who’s who of early 20th-century physics: Hans Bethe, Felix Bloch, Max Born, Albert Einstein, James Franck, Otto Frisch, Fritz London, Lise Meitner, Erwin Schrödinger, Otto Stern, Leo Szilard, Edward Teller, Victor Weisskopf, Eugene Wigner. Three of the displaced scientists—Einstein, Franck, and Schrödinger—were already physics Nobel laureates; five more would eventually receive the prize. A 2016 study found that the 15% of physicists who were dismissed from German universities accounted for 64% of all German physics citations.

https://physicstoday.aip.org/news/the-scientific-exodus-from-nazi-germany

 

And if ever there was a case to be made for how bigotry makes people stupid there's this:

 

"What really caused German dominance in science at the time, was the superb academic environment, which also suckled at its teats jews and other foreign elements, who benefitted greatly from this. "

How exactly were Jews foreign elements? Were they not born in Germany? Raised in Germany? Wasn't German their native language? Weren't they in fact an integral part of the German scientific establishment until the ascent of the Nazis?

 

 

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

To claim German academic success was due to the Nazis would be just as ludicrous as claiming it was due to a jewish minority, nobody made this outlandish claim. Rather Patpong suggested the Nazis opposed scientific advance.

 

Given that humanity's greatest scientifi/technological advances were achieved and overseen by the Nazis, that is clearly a false claim. The incredible list of scientific and technological successes speaks for itself. The Nazis did not oppose scientific advance.

 

 

What a brutally inaccurate claim yet again, the Nazis did no such thing. Rather they trimmed a few branches of some shimmering leaves and flowers, but the strong tree of German academia was still strong, productive and yielded delicious fruit.

 

 

The exodus of the jews, in terms of scientific impact in Germany, is massively exaggerated. In reality of course Germany still had more brilliant scientists than anyone else, despite the Jewish exodus.

 

Whilst Einstein left, Germany still had Heisenberg, who was arguably a greater physicist than Einstein ever was, plus a whole cadre of exceptional scientists., Max Planck, Otto Hahn, Werner von Braun, Otto Hahn, and many, many more still powered German science onwards and upwards.

 

Until the Allies of course knee-capped German academia after 1945, not the Nazis. So in reality the real opponents of science were the Allies, though of course they stole all the scientists and know-how they could with Operation Paperclip.

 

Whilst there were successful jewish academics in Germany, there were far more in Germany itself, even after the exodus. 

 

What really caused German dominance in science at the time, was the superb academic environment, which also suckled at its teats jews and other foreign elements, who benefitted greatly from this. Famously Oppenheimer himself studied in Germany. He was lucky that Heisenberg purposely sabotaged the German endeavour to secure a nuclear bomb, so as not to put it in the hands of Hitler.

 

 

Interesting that you should mention Gottingen which before the Nazi's ascent had the world's foremost mathematics dept

A Math Lesson From Hitler’s Germany
 

"On April 7, two months after Hitler became chancellor, Germany passed a law making it illegal for Jews — or rather those considered Jewish by the Nazis — and Communists to hold civil service jobs, with a few exceptions including for people who had served Germany in World War I. That immediately forced several Göttingen mathematicians from their jobs. The crisis snowballed, and over the course of the year, a total of 18 left or were driven out.

By the time of Hilbert’s legendary dinner with Rust, Germany had lost its status as the world’s foremost country for mathematical research."

https://undark.org/2017/02/01/math-lesson-hitlers-germany/

German academia would have thrived without jews if it had not been destroyed  after 1945 by the Allies in a haze of mass bombings of cvilians and infrastructure.

 

We all know who knee-capped German academia. 

 

And it wasn't the Nazis or Jews leaving.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

German academia would have thrived without jews if it had not been destroyed  after 1945 by the Allies in a haze of mass bombings of cvilians and infrastructure.

 

We all know who knee-capped German academia. 

 

And it wasn't the Nazis or Jews leaving.

Not surprising that you can offer no specific rebuttal to the specific points I raised. 

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

German academia would have thrived without jews if it had not been destroyed  after 1945 by the Allies in a haze of mass bombings of cvilians and infrastructure.

 

We all know who knee-capped German academia. 

 

And it wasn't the Nazis or Jews leaving.

And you seem to have forgotten all about the Nazis' immense contributions to the scientific world in the form of racial science. Among other things their determination that Slavic peoples were subhuman which made it perfectly okay to plan for their genocide.

5 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

And you seem to have forgotten all about the Nazis' immense contributions to the scientific world in the form of racial science.

 

Not at all. You seem to have forogotten how out and out Nazis were among the world's leading academics, contributing to academia in immense ways, and not just in "racial science". Take for instance Heidegger, by a long, long, looooong distance the most pre-eminent philsopher of his day. His contributions to academia are unequalled and his Sein und Zeit continues to be one of the most important books of all time, and certainly of philosophy. An out and out Nazi.

 

And the Nazis were hardly the first to determine a local people was beneath them to justify extermination, where did we hear that before, oh that's right, from the British and Americans in America....

4 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Not at all. You seem to have forogotten how out and out Nazis were among the world's leading academics, contributing to academia in immense ways, and not just in "racial science". Take for instance Heidegger, by a long, long, looooong distance the most pre-eminent philsopher of his day. His contributions to academia are unequalled and his Sein und Zeit continues to be one of the most important books of all time, and certainly of philosophy. An out and out Nazi.

 

And the Nazis were hardly the first to determine a local people was beneath them to justify extermination, where did we hear that before, oh that's right, from the British and Americans in America....

What has Heideigger got to do with science? And anyway by the time the Nazis came to power his best work was behind him. And it's pretty clear he wasn't a very good Nazi. He was a lifelong friend of Hannah Arendt, the Jewish political philosopher. It was she who coined this phrase in regard to the Nazi mentality: the banality of evil.

 

And as for extermination of others. It was typical for Europeans to think of themselves as superior and inflict damage on technologically less formidable peoples. This kind of brutality was not confined to them. It's usually the case when a more technologically advanced people encounter the less advanced. But the Nazis were different. They turned on people who people who were their fellow Germans. Not "foreigh elements" as you repulsively call them. Systematically murdered millions of them. Whose families had lived in Germany for hundreds of years. And others outside of Germany but participants in the sciences, the arts, trade, etc of Europe  And the Nazis did it in the name of a fake and pernicious science. What does that say about the quality of their mentality? Oh, I've got it. How about the banality of evil?

 

And you can still offer no specific rebuttal to the points I raised. In physics, the 15% of scientists who the Germans got rid of one way or the other, were responsible for 64% of scientific citations. 64%! The Nazis destroyed German pre-eminence in mathematics. And their scientific achievements, such as they were,  were of the practical kind, As for theoretical sciences, they had little use for what they called Jewish physics.

 

I guess it must really eat into your craw that Jewish people have achieved so much in the sciences, the arts, in business and finance. Even in Israel,  a country whose treatment of Palestinians becomes ever more repulsive, there can be no doubt of their extraordinary achievements. Hence your moronic attempt to diminish Einstein by comparing him unfavorably to Heisenberg.

 

 

 

 

44 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

What has Heideigger got to do with science?

 

Everything. Truly a moronic question. He brought a scientific approach to philosophy that puts even Foucault in the shadow. He was a leading light in academia and an academic superstar. Another example of where Germany lost the great Adorno, the excellent Cassirer and the underrated Marcuse, they still kept the cream of the crop with Heidegger in unassailable pole position, but notable giants like Carl Schmitt and Kar Jaspers staying in Germany.

 

This whole notion that the Nazis did not tolerate dissent was another crock of sh"£, Karl Jaspers openly opposed Nazism and suffered no consequences at all.

 

Yes, Heidegger was obviously too bright to be an out and out antisemite, and he studied under Edmund Husserl after all, who became a Jewish emigre, but his support for Nazism is well documented.

 

Says a lot about female nature that Hannah Arendt was all her life deeply devoted to Heidegger, despite his antisemitic reputation.

 

So the Nazis were different because they turned on fellow Germans? Have you studied no history at all? And  the Brits did not turn on their fellow Brits when the Americans fought over independence? The English civil war?

 

The Nazis were not different at all in this regard. They justified their conquests. Like Americans did before them.

 

These families who lived for hundreds of years in Germany, did they have their own courts? Their own morality? Their own cementeries?  Granted some were assimilated, but many were not. They remained foreign bodies in their host country all their life.

 

44 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

And others outside of Germany but participants in the sciences, the arts, trade, etc of Europe 

 

Yes, and you forget in finance, where they financed war after war, for all sides, not just for Germany, for many other countries. 

 

44 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

And the Nazis did it in the name of a fake and pernicious science.

 

This science was not "fake" and "pernicious". Much of science produced  by the Nazis is the foundation of the modern world as we know it. Nuclear fission. Jet planes. Rockets that bring us to other planets and launch satellites.

 

Obviously, as with all science there were some false avenues, as we saw them in our time. Who could forget the fraud that was Daniel Goldhagen from Harvard? Not so long ago. Not to mention the never ending sea of slime and drivel that is gender studies and other pseudo-academia today.

 

Actually when you read some of these racial science works, they are remarkably empathetic, for instance, they attested high cultural ability to Indonesians in one prominent work.

 

Your figures for physics look completely false. With Heisenberg, Max Planck and Otto Hahn Germany had the leading scientists of the day working in German academia. Nobody could touch them. Even Einstein would have kissed their feet.

 

44 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

As for theoretical sciences, they had little use for what they called Jewish physics

 

Well, neither do we, what use has theoretical physics brought us? Fringe theories and a lot of hot air. Certainly not as much as nuclear fission, quantum mechanics as developed by Heisenberg and other German physics achievements.

 

44 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

I guess it must really eat into your craw that Jewish people have achieved so much in the sciences, the arts, in business and finance. Even in Israel,  a country whose treatment of Palestinians becomes ever more repulsive, there can be no doubt of their extraordinary achievements. Hence your moronic attempt to diminish Einstein by comparing him unfavorably to Heisenberg.

 

Einstein does compare unfavourably to Heisenberg in many ways. But why would I be upset when jews add to the knowledge of the world. Wonderful that they, too, can do so. And yes some of their successes in Israel are remarkable today, but again they are the result of jews suckling at the teat of American academia. Just as they suckled at the teat of German academia before. Have you noticed they have been unable to build any academic infrastructure worthy of the name, that even compares remotely with what the Germans or Americans achieved? Despite their great achievements. Where is the Israeli Harvard? The Israeli Heidelberg? Nowhere to be found.

17 hours ago, JAG said:

A classic "big lie" as espoused by Joseph Goebels - "Hitler was a Marxist, Nazis were really socialists!"

 

Do you (and others on here) actually believe it, and thus fly in the face of and reject 90 odd years of history, are you simply deluded, or are you constantly pushing it in an attempt to justify a foul political creed?

He was a marxist. You lefties know nothing. You prove it daily. I doubt you could tell a dog from a cat.

https://www.the-independent.com/arts-entertainment/hitler-and-the-socialist-dream-1186455.html

Andrew Jackson.  Father of the Democratic Party.  The party of slavery and KKK.

 

 

I know the site was struggleing with new topics but my God how as it got this bad. Tell you what I love Porridge in the morning but im struggleing gettin me head round adding Salt should i put it in or not ??

3 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

He was a marxist. You lefties know nothing. You prove it daily. I doubt you could tell a dog from a cat.

They sure can’t tell a man from a woman.

2 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

I know the site was struggleing with new topics but my God how as it got this bad. Tell you what I love Porridge in the morning but im struggleing gettin me head round adding Salt should i put it in or not ??

No.

10 hours ago, Cameroni said:

German academia would have thrived without jews if it had not been destroyed  after 1945 by the Allies in a haze of mass bombings of cvilians and infrastructure.

 

We all know who knee-capped German academia. 

 

And it wasn't the Nazis or Jews leaving.

The side effect of staring a world war.

2 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

I know the site was struggleing with new topics but my God how as it got this bad. Tell you what I love Porridge in the morning but im struggleing gettin me head round adding Salt should i put it in or not ??

 

I got some salt for your porridge.

On 11/4/2025 at 11:02 PM, TedG said:

Which party had a Grandwizard serve in the Senate?   Does Robert Byrd(D) ring a bell?  
 

what about FDRs first Supreme Court justice?  Hugo Black.

 

I have no idea who those dead blokes were, nor do I care. Why do you care about worm food?

 

I support capital  punishment for murderers, pedophiles, traitors and drug dealers. The current law doesn't go ahead, because it doesn't allow for the reintroduction of public execution by secret ballot.

 

Drug addicts I want to see publicly flogged.

 

Nazis I am glad were strung up, sometimes in public. Everyone right minded supported that.  I think members of the KKK should also suffer the same punishment.

 

Supporters and apologists for Nazis and the KKK (and their ilk) should suffer the same punishment as drug addicts. Flogged until they learn the error of their ways, and publicly repudiate such beliefs.

 

Do you support strong law enforcement, or weak law enforcement. If you are not in favour of execution or flogging of racists, why not?

 

That doesn't mean I exclude other political extremists from similar treatment.

 

To disarm your selective top googling efforts to deflect from criticism of the KKK, here seems to be a fairly comprehensive list of leading party members, either members of, associated with (guilt by association is enough) or supported by these racist thugs.

 

Democrat KKK members, suspected or confessed scum

1.Theodore G. Bilbo
2.Joseph E. Brown
3.Robert C. Byrd
4.John Brown Gordon
5.James Thomas Heflin
6.John Tyler Morgan
7.Edmund Pettus
8.Daniel F. Steck
9.Frank B. Willis
10.Clifford Davis
11.George Washington Gordon 
12.William D. Upshaw
13.Homer Martin Adkins
14.Bibb Graves
15.Tom Terral
16.Clifford Walker
17.Elmer David Davies
18.Lee Cazort
19.John Morton
20.William L. Saunders 
21.John Clinton Porter
22.Benjamin F. Stapleton
23.Harry S. Truman
24.Ralph Northam

 

Republican KKK members, suspected or confessed scum

1.Rufus C. Holman
2.Rice W. Means
3.William Bliss Pine
4.Lawrence C. Phipps
5.Ralph Owen Brewster
6.Frederick Steiwer
7.Arthur Raymond Robinson
8.Frank Willis
9.Edward L. Jackson
10.Clarence Morley
11.David Duke
12.Warren G Harding
13.Calvin Coolidge
14.D.C. Stephenson
15.Kaspar Kubli
16.Mark Alton Barwise
17.Van Lohman
18.John L. Duvall
19.Charles S. Tuttle Jr.
20.John G. Smith
21.Allen M. Irish
22.Hodgdon C. Buzzell
23.Charles Hall
24.Steve Scalise
25.Darrell Leon McClanahan II

 

Even Stevens, ergo an institutionally racist country, with, unbelievably, leading commentators calling for the reintroduction of Human Chattal.

 

It says something about your country, and you, that your immediate reaction to a statement, that David Duke is a Republican, is Soviet-style whataboutery, rather than commenting on Duke himself. Its a tactic the Soviets used to justify their evil crimes. So why did you deflect?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 11/6/2025 at 3:03 AM, BarraMarra said:

I know the site was struggleing with new topics but my God how as it got this bad. Tell you what I love Porridge in the morning but im struggleing gettin me head round adding Salt should i put it in or not ??

No.

A thin ring of brown sugar around the edge of the bowl, followed by a little milk. Handful of raisins on top. 

 

Northern Lights Option- substitute maple syrup for the brown sugar. 

The more the leftist woke radicals and other environmental terrorists try to finger point on others, 

 

The more the right wings will get democratic support.