Europe’s proposal to invite Putin back in to the G8 sparks fury 

 

European leaders have floated a proposal to invite Vladimir Putin back into the G8 as part of a sweeping counter-offer aimed at ending the Ukraine war — a move that detonated outrage across the continent and sent a shudder through NATO capitals.

The offer emerged in Geneva, where European negotiators presented a counter-proposal to the U.S.–Russia framework leaked last week. The plan, drafted with support from British officials, promises Russia “progressive re-integration into the global economy” — a concession unthinkable just months ago.

 

U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio hailed the meeting as the “best day” yet in the grinding peace process, signalling Washington’s growing impatience with Kyiv and its desire to nail down a deal before the war metastasises further.

 

The European pitch also proposes capping Ukraine’s forces at 800,000 troops — higher than Trump’s 600,000 limit but still a hard ceiling on a country fighting for survival. For comparison, Moscow once demanded a microscopic 85,000-soldier Ukrainian army during the Istanbul talks in 2022, a proposal instantly rejected.

 

Tensions escalated after President Trump blasted Kyiv for showing “zero gratitude,” prompting Volodymyr Zelensky to issue a public note of thanks that strained to soothe Washington’s temper. Trump also accused Europe of hypocrisy for buying Russian oil while relying on U.S. weapons to arm Ukraine.

 

But inside Europe, the backlash has been ferocious. A coalition of 47 lawmakers from Ireland to North Macedonia issued a stark warning to Trump, condemning any deal that bends toward Moscow as “morally reprehensible” and a betrayal of the free world. Their letter invoked Reagan’s Cold War maxim — “We win, they lose” — while warning that appeasement would greenlight aggression far beyond Ukraine’s borders.

 

The broader fear now gripping Europe is simple: a deal that brings Putin in from the cold may leave Ukraine — and Europe’s security order — out in the frost.

 

Key Takeaways

• Europe’s counter-proposal includes a dramatic offer to readmit Putin to the G8.

• Plan caps Ukraine’s army at 800,000 while promising Russia economic reintegration.

• European lawmakers warn Trump that appeasement risks global destabilisation.

 

Source: Express

 

 

 

Why do they think that Russia would want to re-join such a club

BRICS is the way forward for them.

 

PS Russia is also winning on the battle front so why would they

not want to push for maximum gains..in any 'peace agreement'

in other words the victor writes the peace agreement the looser has no other choice but accept them.

Yes he’s Been threatening to nuke everybody to stall them getting weapons from the west..should be isolated for all time …

What a good plan.

 

Get him into the UK and arrest him as a war criminal and for crimes against humanity then ship him in chains, under an armed guard, to the ICJ at the Hague and let them deal with him.

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

What a good plan.

 

Get him into the UK and arrest him as a war criminal and for crimes against humanity then ship him in chains, under an armed guard, to the ICJ at the Hague and let them deal with him.

Agree - they can use the same flight for Tony Blair.

Well if Europe really wants peace, kindly explain how can they do it without Russia on the table,  in a war that fully involves Russia and Ukraine ? 

 

Could we wonder, consider and ask the question if it's all the arms dealers lobbys that are pushing to pursue the war with their allies in the military who must be getting some kickbacks in untraceable bitcoins on the XXL arms deals all over Europe maybe ? Or not ? ...who knows...

 

On a different note, only a fool would try to convince others that all the other nations with whom Europe (or the west and the world)  is trading for oil, arms, goods or services,  are totally clean. 

 

 

Even the dullest blades can now see who won the war.

And yes, the forum based have been gently trying to tell it for years. Hope the penny finally dropped.

1 hour ago, SingAPorn said:

Well if Europe really wants peace, kindly explain how can they do it without Russia on the table,  in a war that fully involves Russia and Ukraine ? 

 

Could we wonder, consider and ask the question if it's all the arms dealers lobbys that are pushing to pursue the war with their allies in the military who must be getting some kickbacks in untraceable bitcoins on the XXL arms deals all over Europe maybe ? Or not ? ...who knows...

 

On a different note, only a fool would try to convince others that all the other nations with whom Europe (or the west and the world)  is trading for oil, arms, goods or services,  are totally clean. 

 

 

So first Russia wrote the US peace proposal, now you want them on the table before the alternative proposal is finished?

Europe wants their cheap gas back.   

Munich again, who is Chamberlain this time, and Daladier?

1 hour ago, Peter Crow said:

Munich again, who is Chamberlain this time, and Daladier?

 

Interesting analogy.

 

Trump seems a shoo-in for Chamberlain (although perhaps Starmer is making a late bid?).

 

Daladier? Less clear. Maybe Kallas?

On 11/24/2025 at 5:49 PM, SingAPorn said:

Well if Europe really wants peace, kindly explain how can they do it without Russia on the table,  in a war that fully involves Russia and Ukraine ? 

 

Could we wonder, consider and ask the question if it's all the arms dealers lobbys that are pushing to pursue the war with their allies in the military who must be getting some kickbacks in untraceable bitcoins on the XXL arms deals all over Europe maybe ? Or not ? ...who knows...

 

On a different note, only a fool would try to convince others that all the other nations with whom Europe (or the west and the world)  is trading for oil, arms, goods or services,  are totally clean. 

Why would Europe, the US...or the Congo...have any bloody thing to say about it. Other nations' job is simply to provide Ukraine effective weapons to neutralise Russia for good.

 

Instead, American arms-makers, particularly drone companies, are using Ukraine as a real-world testing ground. Just what the world needs, more deadly profiteers.

 

(Bring back the honest arms dealers like Viktor Bout.)