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Anyone Think Settlements in West Bank Legal?

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59 minutes ago, IDFHero said:

We differentiate unlike Muslim terrorist baby killers and rapists.

An IDF terrorist calls Muslim baby killers, when  3 kids under 3 years old were in fact killed.

Israeli propaganda said 40 babies were beheaded, which has been proven false. There is also proof of rape.

@IDFHero do you think Jews' lives are more important that Muslim lives?

 

Tragically, the total number of infants who lost their lives(killed by IDF heroes) before reaching their first birthday has now exceeded 800.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/over-800-infants-killed-killed-israel-gaza-reaching-their-first-birthday

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4 minutes ago, JimCM said:

 

Israeli propaganda said 40 babies were beheaded,

 

 

   Not this again !!!!!!!!!

It WASNT  Israeli propaganda .

It was a French media report which got mistranslated (into English).

Why do you keep posting incorrect info ?

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17 minutes ago, transam said:

That will not make any difference to Hamas....🥴

Seems to make no difference to you- no words of sorrow or condemnation.

2 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Seems to make no difference to you- no words of sorrow or condemnation.

My words here mean nothing, but, it seems you forgot Hamas murdered a 1000+ civilians in Israel, for nothing, if they hadn't, all those killed in the war is on their back..................🤔

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8 minutes ago, transam said:

My words here mean nothing, but, it seems you forgot Hamas murdered a 1000+ civilians in Israel, for nothing, if they hadn't, all those killed in the war is on their back..................🤔

No they didn't. Israeli lies.. The IDF killed many. 

I believe the no if civilians was around 810.

Don't be so gullible.

Why do you think guys in paragliders were able to enter Israel whereas hundreds of cruise missiles and ballistic missiles were blocked, and the IDF didn't respond for many hours?

 

9 major lies Israel promoted after October 7

 

https://www.trtworld.com/article/1eb43ff64136

 

14 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Seems to make no difference to you- no words of sorrow or condemnation.

Hamas is ultimately responsible for the demise of Gaza, but you’re only trying to rationalize out of that fact. It’s really that simple.

48 minutes ago, JimCM said:

 

Why do you think guys in paragliders were able to enter Israel whereas hundreds of cruise missiles and ballistic missiles were blocked, and the IDF didn't respond for many hours?

 

    The Iron dome missile defence system thwarts off missiles .

The Iron Dome detects missiles .

The paragliders literally flew under the radar undetected .

It takes time to organise and mobilise a military   response

1 hour ago, JimCM said:

No they didn't. Israeli lies.. The IDF killed many. 

I believe the no if civilians was around 810.

Don't be so gullible.

Why do you think guys in paragliders were able to enter Israel whereas hundreds of cruise missiles and ballistic missiles were blocked, and the IDF didn't respond for many hours?

 

9 major lies Israel promoted after October 7

 

https://www.trtworld.com/article/1eb43ff64136

 

So 1000+ is a lie but 810 murdered is OK...............😂

Hey, you have an agenda with excuses for Hamas, you can stand down now........:coffee1:

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1 hour ago, transam said:

So 1000+ is a lie but 810 murdered is OK...............😂

Hey, you have an agenda with excuses for Hamas, you can stand down now........:coffee1:

You pay lies, I point them out.

Again , no sympathy for 25,000 murdered kids. 

I have no desire to talk with you.

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28 minutes ago, JimCM said:

You pay lies, I point them out.

Again , no sympathy for 25,000 murdered kids. 

I have no desire to talk with you.

<removed>

I do not pay for anything.

You twist to suit your agenda.

The war dead does not need my comment.

Then don't talk to me.

Bloody silly question.

 

Hamas murdered 1000 civilians for nothing and started a war, why don't you condemn them here.....?   🫡

2 hours ago, JimCM said:

No they didn't. Israeli lies.. The IDF killed many. 

 

   More untruths from you .

Those killed by the IDF in friendly fire were a single digit figure , thats not "many"

An off topic reference to the Second World War was removed from a post, as were replies to it. 

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On 12/18/2025 at 1:08 PM, novacova said:

Hamas is ultimately responsible for the demise of Gaza, but you’re only trying to rationalize out of that fact. It’s really that simple.

 

I really do not understand how Hamas is responsible for the destruction of Gaza.

 

Nobody doubts that the Israeli onslaught and destruction in Gaza started because of October 7.

 

But every time a soldier presses a button or pulls a trigger to unleash only a single bullet or even a 2000 pound bomb it is his decision whether to do it or not and in which direction he sends that bullet or that bomb.

 

Hamas decided to do something which forced Israel to react.

 

But it was Israel and the IDF which decided how to react.

 

And despite reminding the world again and again that Israel has a right to defend itself, what Israel did in that more than 2 years since October 7 had nothing to do with self-defense.

 

Destroying practically every building is no self defense.

Killing  more journalists than in WW II and the Vietnam war combined is no self defense.

Killing 100.000 people, most of them women and children is no self defense.

Killing medics is no self defense.

Target practice on children is no self defense.

 

Genocide is no self-defense.

On 12/18/2025 at 12:25 PM, JimCM said:

Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank are illegal under international law. This is not a debatable or marginal position - it is the settled view of the UN Security Council, the International Court of Justice, the vast majority of international legal scholars, and every government in the world except Israel and, intermittently, the United States. Article 49(6) of the Fourth Geneva Convention explicitly prohibits an occupying power from transferring its civilian population into occupied territory. The West Bank is occupied territory. The settlements violate that prohibition. Full stop.

Security is not a legal defence. Occupation law exists precisely to restrain “security-based” land grabs. If security concerns justified permanent civilian settlement on occupied land, the entire framework of international humanitarian law would collapse. States could simply occupy, settle, and annex any territory by asserting fear. That is why the argument fails legally and morally.

 

What is happening in the West Bank is not defensive necessity. It is systematic land theft backed by military force, aimed at permanent control of territory while denying political rights to the population living there. That is not complicated. It is aggression, and it is illegal.

 

And yet western leaders and politicians support that, sacrificing all the achievements resulting from the horrors of WW II, like the UN Charter (1945), establishing the UN and global peace efforts; the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948), setting foundational human rights; and the Geneva Conventions of 1949, which form the core of modern International Humanitarian Law, on the Zionist Altar.

 

Instead of sanctions on Israel, the US now sanctions nine ICC judges and prosecutors and two more since Thursday.

 

The most deafening noise is the silence of all the human rights, women`s rights and other pro-peace groups. Same goes for all the famous singers or actors who always seem to have an opinion on everything.

 

What happened to humanity?

On 12/18/2025 at 12:40 PM, JimCM said:

An IDF terrorist calls Muslim baby killers, when  3 kids under 3 years old were in fact killed.

Israeli propaganda said 40 babies were beheaded, which has been proven false. There is also proof of rape.

@IDFHero do you think Jews' lives are more important that Muslim lives?

 

Tragically, the total number of infants who lost their lives(killed by IDF heroes) before reaching their first birthday has now exceeded 800.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/over-800-infants-killed-killed-israel-gaza-reaching-their-first-birthday

Propaganda and blood libel from anti-semites

On 12/14/2025 at 12:31 AM, Lee65 said:

 

Raison d'être is a French term that means "reason for being" or "justification for existence." It refers to the fundamental purpose or motivation behind someone's life or actions.

 

People get ornery if you try to take away their raison d'être, no matter how idiotic.  Ergo, short of mass lobotomies, these Arab Jew & religious battles will never end.

Wholesale lobotomies are the best solution I've heard yet!

On 12/17/2025 at 10:38 PM, Evil Penevil said:

 

 

I suggested you start a thread on Israeli settlements in the West Bank to avoid other threads veering off-topic. I didn't say I would rush to participate in it. I was hesitant to post because threads on contentious topics such as settlements seldom yield any positive results.

 

 

"Defense" is indeed the key word here.  The defense of the West Bank settlements is the defense of Israel. Tthe security of the Israeli people uh, trumps legality.  :smile:   Until a permanent solution to the Palestine problem can be reached, the people of Israel and their government may have to resort to extraordinary measures, including settlements on the West Bank, to provide comprehensive security.

 

In some cases, the settlements are justified. in other cases they aren't.  I am not a supporter of Weiss, Smotrich,  Ben Gvir, ultranationalists, Messianic Zionists and other politicians and groups which favor broad expansion into the West Bank.

 

The situation is complicated because some of the West Bank settlements were Jewish before the Arab-Israeli War of 1948.  Prior to the foundation of the state of Israel, Jews had legally acquired land on the West Bank in accordance with the laws of the Ottoman Empire or British mandate. Zionists bought the land, they didn't steal it. They were forced out of those settlements during the 1848 war.  Settlers in some cases have taken back land to which Jews had a legal claim.

 

In terms of violation of international law, I agree with the positions described by Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs:

 

Israeli Settlements and International Law

Attempts to present Jewish settlement in West Bank territory (ancient Judea and Samaria) as illegal and "colonial" in nature ignores the complexity of this issue, the history of the land, and the unique legal circumstances of this case.   https://www.gov.il/en/pages/israeli-settlement-and-international-law

 

A lot can be said in defense of Israeli settlements on the West Bank; you can read more about it on the MOFA Web site 

Thank you for your complete explanation of your views.

On 12/18/2025 at 11:40 AM, IDFHero said:

We differentiate unlike Muslim terrorist baby killers and rapists.

Will the real baby killers please stand up! Oh, there an IDF Hero and a Hamas freak.Oooh, both have baby blood on their hands. 

On 12/18/2025 at 12:33 PM, transam said:

That will not make any difference to Hamas....🥴

Or the IDF heroes.

On 12/18/2025 at 12:57 PM, transam said:

My words here mean nothing, but, it seems you forgot Hamas murdered a 1000+ civilians in Israel, for nothing, if they hadn't, all those killed in the war is on their back..................🤔

Bibi was just waiting for a reason to attack Palestine. And he got it October 7.

4 hours ago, Somjot said:

But every time a soldier presses a button or pulls a trigger to unleash only a single bullet or even a 2000 pound bomb it is his decision whether to do it or not and in which direction he sends that bullet or that bomb.

Only rogue soldiers act without orders from their superiors. Israel (and Gaza) will never recover. I foresee  more than half a million IDF soldiers with PTSD and 2.4 million Gazans suffering the same. Does that make any a happy camper? 

3 hours ago, IDFHero said:

Propaganda and blood libel from anti-semites

Many of my best friends are...Bluish. (To quote The Beatles.)

A two-state solution, however uneasy, is the only solution.

 

I can’t agree that “Israel” became separate from Egypt “3,000 years ago”. No country has existed 3k years!

 

As for “legal”, who gives a flying eff. This is theft pure and simple.

 

Let the Palestinians live peacefully on their land as they have for those thousands of years. Peacefully, incidentally, with Jews from ~1880.

 

‘IDFHero’ did you actually ‘serve’ in the IDF? With all sincerity and humility, I think many here would be interested in your experiences.

56 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Will the real baby killers please stand up! Oh, there an IDF Hero and a Hamas freak.Oooh, both have baby blood on their hands. 

Are you accusing me of murder? Are you accusing every ID of soldier of murder?Another anti-Semitic blood libel

44 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

A two-state solution, however uneasy, is the only solution.

 

I can’t agree that “Israel” became separate from Egypt “3,000 years ago”. No country has existed 3k years!

 

As for “legal”, who gives a flying eff. This is theft pure and simple.

 

Let the Palestinians live peacefully on their land as they have for those thousands of years. Peacefully, incidentally, with Jews from ~1880.

 

‘IDFHero’ did you actually ‘serve’ in the IDF? With all sincerity and humility, I think many here would be interested in your experiences.

Sincerity and humility are not found in terrorist supporters.

5 hours ago, Somjot said:

Genocide is no self-defense

Your use of the term genocide is a slur on every victim in light of your support for Jew killing

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7 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Your use of the term genocide is a slur on every victim in light of your support for Jew killing

 

May I remind you that I just quoted a few "unimportant" organizations, which accused Israel of committing genocide in Gaza. 

 

Just to name a few:

 

Medecins du Monde

 

UNHRC Commission of Inquiry on Gaza genocide

 

Refugees International

 

Médecins Sans Frontières / Doctors Without Borders

 

War Resisters' International

 

International Association of Genocide Scholars

 

Oxfam

 

B'Tselem

 

Defence for Children International

 

Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention

 

Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor    

 

Center for Constitutional Rights

 

International Federation for Human Rights

 

Jewish Voice for Peace

 

Amnesty International

 

European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights

 

Genocide Watch

 

Human Rights Watch

 

Christian Aid

 

 

And this is just a fraction.

 

But what do they know?

 

They probably forgot to ask @Yagoda for an expertise.

9 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Only rogue soldiers act without orders from their superiors. 

 

I am afraid you are wrong on this one:

 

A few soldiers are reporting now, how their superiors ordered the murder of innocents with most soldiers happily following those orders.

 

You learn a lot on the website of Breaking the Silence, a group of Israeli veterans who are working to dismantle the traditional narrative put forth by their own military establishment.

 

They collect testimonies and report about the wrongdoings of the IDF.

 

"On November 11th, Israeli soldiers who had admitted to raping a Palestinian detainee at the now infamous detention camp Sde Teiman were met with applause and a standing ovation as they entered an Israeli courtroom. The scene ricocheted around the world, the latest portrait of the depravity that has gripped Israeli society."

 

"Describing the general rules of engagement in Gaza, Joel Carmel of Breaking the Silence, reported about the death traps: “If it’s a man of fighting age . . . if they get close or if they’re in an area where they’re not supposed to be, [the orders] are shoot to kill.”"

 

"In what is being called the “mosquito procedure,” Israeli soldiers are “ordered by senior officers to grab Palestinians next to them and to use them as human shields,"

 

https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/

 

https://jewishcurrents.org/what-the-soldiers-did-in-gaza

 

 

Remember: these are Jewish websites.

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13 hours ago, IDFHero said:

Propaganda and blood libel from anti-semites

 

Your mind seems to use a very simple filter to create a "realistic" picture of the world for yourself:

 

Anything positive reported about Israel or the IDF, no matter if true or not, must be true and coming from sincere and honorable people.

 

Anything negative reported about Israel or the IDF, no matter if true or not, must be untrue and coming from Anti-semites and Jew haters.

 

No questions asked, no further investigation or personal research needed.

 

Any statement or even proof contradicting your version of reality, no matter how undeniably true it may be, can only be a malicious lie. That`s why you always react aggressively by insulting and branding your opponents as Jew haters.

 

Has it ever crossed your mind that your version of reality is not what it really is but only what you want it to be?

 

Or do you intentionally keep yourself in that state of denial because you are so scared of the truth, afraid you might not be able to bear it.

20 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

A two-state solution, however uneasy, is the only solution.

 

   How can it be  solution, when both sides don't agree with it ?

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