December 22, 2025Dec 22 Should many more Jews decide to emigrate to the USA? Not a dumb question...maybe... I think they should, if they are willing. This would benefit the USA. And, it might be good for everyone... There is STILL far too much racism and bigotry in the USA. But, STILL, probably far better than some places we can think of. Growing up on the Main Line, I know this is a great place for a good life, and much more tolerance than some other places in the USA. So, would the Main Line be one of the better places in the world for Jews? Haha...YES....for SURE it would. This is my best advice, as of this moment. Note: Maybe stay away from the Poconos, though, because...probably the Poconos, these days, is not quite as nice as it was in Wouk's day. Great author. Amazing man.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Exceptions are that UK citizens can join a foreign Army who are fighting against terrorists : The Law: The Foreign Enlistment Act 1870 prohibits British subjects from accepting commissions in foreign states at war with a "friendly state" (one at peace with Britain). Exceptions/Complexities: It doesn't typically apply to joining forces in a foreign civil war or fighting terrorism. For dual nationals, obligations depend on the laws of both countries, but the UK government's stance is that citizens shouldn't serve abroad. I’ve given you the actual law. please provide a link to the statements you have posted.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 Off topic posts about things Nigel Farage might have said when he was a schoolboy were removed. Please stay on topic. Thank you.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: I’ve given you the actual law. please provide a link to the state Mrs you have made. You want link to my Mrs ? I cannot provide one, I am single . I haven't got a Mrs
December 22, 2025Dec 22 10 hours ago, Evil Penevil said: Who gets to define antisemitism? The victims or the perpetrators? Or an outside body? For the haters of Israel to define antisemitism is equivalent to the Ku Klux Klan defining racism. The International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, the world's leading institution regarding the Holocaust and antisemitism, has a working definition of antisemitism that has been adopted by numerous countries and organizations. The IHRA states: "Manifestations might include the targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity," and gives the following examples, among others: Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor. Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation. Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis. Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel. It also states: "However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic." https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism I am not a hater of Israel. I am a hater of narcissists with political ambition. I am a hater of war in all its forms, including antisemitism. So let's take these points apart. "However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic." Great start. And yet, this seems to say the opposite: "Manifestations might include the targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity," "Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation." I would not support any nation lobbing missiles at its neighbours and ethnic cleansing within or without its borders. If Palestine is within Israel's borders, then Israel must seek peace and give recognitions such as citizenship. If Israelis don't want that, then two states are the only road to peace. "Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis." Now it gets tough. Is this about ethic or religious cleansing in general or is it merely related to the scale of genocide? "Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel." I can only speak for myself. I have lots of Israeli friends, none of whom support the war on Palestine.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said: You want link to my Mrs ? I cannot provide one, I am single . I haven't got a Mrs Typo corrected. Please provide a link to this claim you have posted: 10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Exceptions are that UK citizens can join a foreign Army who are fighting against terrorists : The Law: The Foreign Enlistment Act 1870 prohibits British subjects from accepting commissions in foreign states at war with a "friendly state" (one at peace with Britain). Exceptions/Complexities: It doesn't typically apply to joining forces in a foreign civil war or fighting terrorism. For dual nationals, obligations depend on the laws of both countries, but the UK government's stance is that citizens shouldn't serve abroad.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 29 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Which Jews are you referring to ? Which Jews think that being antiwar, antigenocide, antistarvation is antisemitic? Umm, apparently, the silent majority of two-thirds both abroad and in Israel itself.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Typo corrected. Please provide a link to this claim you have posted: You want a link to my websearch ? Here : https://www.google.com/search?q=The+Law%3A+The+Foreign+Enlistment+Act+1870+prohibits+British+subjects+from+accepting+commissions+in+foreign+states+at+war+with+a+"friendly+state"+(one+at+peace+with+Britain).+Exceptions%2FComplexities%3A+It+doesn't+typically+apply+to+joining+forces+in+a+foreign+civil+war+or+fighting+terrorism.+For+dual+nationals%2C+obligations+depend+on+the+laws+of+both+countries%2C+but+the+UK+government's+stance+is+that+citizens+shouldn't+serve+abroad.&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
December 22, 2025Dec 22 Popular Post 1 minute ago, unblocktheplanet said: Umm, apparently, the silent majority of two-thirds both abroad and in Israel itself. I don't believe that info is correct or true . Its probably misinformation from Al-Jazeera or Iran TV or you got something mixed up.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 18 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said: "Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel." I can only speak for myself. I have lots of Israeli friends, none of whom support the war on Palestine. How many Israeli friends have you got ? Lots can mean 5 or 5 million
December 22, 2025Dec 22 20 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said: Great author. Amazing man. personally Most people do not have a favourite author. I do, and got to know him personally growing up in Rosenberg anti-death penalty, antinuke, peace movement of the 50s and 60s. Isaac Bashevis Singer. He writes in Yiddish and I studied it for two years. I also went to Yiddish theatre in New York and attended many talks at the YMHA. I am probably a vegetarian largely because of Isaac. The NYT once asked him, "Mr Singer, why are you a vegetarian?" Singer: "For health reasons. Not my health, but the health of the chickens." Jews moving to the US? Yeah, it's an asylum alright!
December 22, 2025Dec 22 24 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said: If Palestine is within Israel's borders, then Israel must seek peace and give recognitions such as citizenship. If Israelis don't want that, then two states are the only road to peace. You don't really know much about the situation . Would be better if you read up a bit about the situation Get to know the a basics first
December 22, 2025Dec 22 13 hours ago, Yagoda said: Jew hating is fashionable with terrorist supporters and the trolling morons that feed off them. How do you know that..............🤣
December 22, 2025Dec 22 13 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: You want a link to my websearch ? Here : https://www.google.com/search?q=The+Law%3A+The+Foreign+Enlistment+Act+1870+prohibits+British+subjects+from+accepting+commissions+in+foreign+states+at+war+with+a+"friendly+state"+(one+at+peace+with+Britain).+Exceptions%2FComplexities%3A+It+doesn't+typically+apply+to+joining+forces+in+a+foreign+civil+war+or+fighting+terrorism.+For+dual+nationals%2C+obligations+depend+on+the+laws+of+both+countries%2C+but+the+UK+government's+stance+is+that+citizens+shouldn't+serve+abroad.&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 So not a reference to the law then.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: It is against the law for British citizens to commit war crimes and/or engage in war crimes. https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/apr/07/ten-britons-accused-of-committing-war-crimes-while-fighting-for-israel-in-gaza#:~:text=Israel has persistently denied that,took six months to compile. That is what I said, I quote: "If there is real "stand up in court" evidence that an individual has committed a crime then they can perhaps be tried for those crimes". If that evidence will stand the test of a court then go ahead and try them. Maybe a Guardian article is not sufficient evidence? You however said, and again I quote: "There are British Jews who have voluntarily served with the IDF in Gaza and/or openly support Israel’s actions in Gaza, those individuals should be held accountable," Others, notably @Nick Carter icp have expanded upon the Foreign Enlistment Act 1970. The UK may have recognised the Palastinian State, but I suggest it does not constitute a "friendly state" within the meaning of the act, (it considers Hamas as a terrorist organisation) and therefor a Briish Citizen serving in the IDF is not breaking that law. Now perhaps we might consider the cases of the considerable number of young British males who travelled to Afghabistan to fight amongst the Taliban, they were not held liable under the Foreign Enlistment Act 1970. I would suggest that you are taking a 150 year old law, out of the context for which it was framed, and attempting to apply it in support of your own political enthusiasms. Remind me, who else is known for that? Oh yes, of course, a certain President Trump! "Oh what a tangled mess we weave..." eh Chomper?
December 22, 2025Dec 22 2 minutes ago, JAG said: The UK may have recognised the Palastinian State, but I suggest it does not constitute a "friendly state" within the meaning of the act, (it considers Hamas as a terrorist organisation) and therefor a Briish Citizen serving in the IDF is not breaking that law. You've made that up. Or are there any court cases supporting your assertion?
December 22, 2025Dec 22 18 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: So not a reference to the law then. There are some clickable links on the page , if you can be bothered to wade though them . Anyway , "finally no one has been prosecuted under this law for around 100 years, the government has ignored people going of to fight for national armies." The law on this is actually really old and a bit out of date..the foreign enlistment act of 1870 states that a UK citizen is not allowed to enlist with the armed forces of a foreign nation that it’s at war with a friendly nation…friendly is basically defined as any nation that the UK is not at war with. There is an exclusion in that HMG can provide a license to allow someone to enlist with the forces of a nation at war with another nation the UK is at peace with…..................................Finally no one has been prosecuted under this law for around 100 years, the government has ignored people going of to fight for national armies.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 22 minutes ago, stevenl said: You've made that up. Or are there any court cases supporting your assertion? What have I made up? The UK only recognised the Palastinian State some three months ago, It has not declared it as a "friendly state", in fact at the time it recognised Palastine it reiterated that Hamas, the de-facto Palastinian authority in Gaza, is a "brutal terrorist organisation". There have been no court cases supporting or challenging that. The allegations made and reported by the Guardian, and to which @Chomper Higgot refers were made 9 montha ago, "based upon open-source evidence and witness testimony" and have not resulted in charges or trials. They do not publically name the accused. It is rather probable that the ten "suspects" identified were simply the only ten British nationals the complainents were able to identify who were serving in the IDF, either as dual nationals or volunteers. I would be rather surprised if there were many more than say at most a hundred anyway, the bulk of whom would be dual nationals, resident in Israel and fulfilling their required military service.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: Please provide a link to this claim you have posted: I'll lend Nick a hand because he is on the side of the angels. The clarification on the Foreign Enlistment Act 1870 came in the answer to a written question addressed to the Minister of State, Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office by an MP. It was answered by Sir Andrew Mitchell. 17 January 2024 Section 4 of the Foreign Enlistment Act 1870 makes it an offence for a British subject to enlist in the military of a foreign state at war with another foreign state with which the UK is at peace. That prohibition does not extend, however, to enlistment in a foreign government's forces which are engaged in a civil war or combating terrorism or internal uprisings. The Occupied Palestinian Territories are not currently recognised as a state by the UK. It is the UK government's longstanding position that the Fourth Geneva Convention applies to the Occupied Palestinian Territories, and that Israel is an occupying power under that convention. The 1870 Act therefore does not apply in this instance. https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2024-01-09/8748/ Here's the link to the law itself: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/33-34/90
December 22, 2025Dec 22 57 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said: Most people do not have a favourite author. I do, and got to know him personally growing up in Rosenberg anti-death penalty, antinuke, peace movement of the 50s and 60s. Isaac Bashevis Singer. He writes in Yiddish and I studied it for two years. I also went to Yiddish theatre in New York and attended many talks at the YMHA. I am probably a vegetarian largely because of Isaac. The NYT once asked him, "Mr Singer, why are you a vegetarian?" Singer: "For health reasons. Not my health, but the health of the chickens." Jews moving to the US? Yeah, it's an asylum alright! Bellevue is not so bad, these days, I hear.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 1 hour ago, transam said: How do you know that..............🤣 Because of the way you post
December 22, 2025Dec 22 Popular Post Interestingly, 60% of British jews have financially supported Israel since Oct 7, 2023, according to the the Institute for Jewish Policy Research. At the same time, at least 60% have donated to a charity supporting Israel since 7 October, 65% identify as Zionists, 71% feel a great deal of concern for the lives of Israelis, 77% feel attached to Israel, and 88% regard Israel as the ancestral homeland of the Jewish People https://www.jpr.org.uk/insights/what-exactly-jewish-majority-view-israel#:~:text=First%2C JPR data from summer,Again%2C these are all majorities
December 22, 2025Dec 22 56 minutes ago, JAG said: That is what I said, I quote: "If there is real "stand up in court" evidence that an individual has committed a crime then they can perhaps be tried for those crimes". If that evidence will stand the test of a court then go ahead and try them. Maybe a Guardian article is not sufficient evidence? You however said, and again I quote: "There are British Jews who have voluntarily served with the IDF in Gaza and/or openly support Israel’s actions in Gaza, those individuals should be held accountable," Others, notably @Nick Carter icp have expanded upon the Foreign Enlistment Act 1970. The UK may have recognised the Palastinian State, but I suggest it does not constitute a "friendly state" within the meaning of the act, (it considers Hamas as a terrorist organisation) and therefor a Briish Citizen serving in the IDF is not breaking that law. Now perhaps we might consider the cases of the considerable number of young British males who travelled to Afghabistan to fight amongst the Taliban, they were not held liable under the Foreign Enlistment Act 1970. I would suggest that you are taking a 150 year old law, out of the context for which it was framed, and attempting to apply it in support of your own political enthusiasms. Remind me, who else is known for that? Oh yes, of course, a certain President Trump! "Oh what a tangled mess we weave..." eh Chomper? The learned gentleman is himself weaving his own tangled web. I have not claimed a Guardian article is sufficient evidence to ‘stand up in court’, I have provided a link to a Guardian article that reports 10 individuals are under investigation for war crimes while serving with the IDF. With regards to service in foreign armies, I‘ve provided the actual law, which regardless of it being 250 years old, remains the law. The not so learned gentleman Nick has provided an internet search which does not ‘expand upon The Foreign Enlistment Act of 1870’, not does it real it. The learned gentlemen’s personal opinion on whether or not Palestine constitutes a ‘friendly state’ is noted. If the learned gentleman has evidence of war between the UK and the State of Palestine please provide below. Afghanistan, Taliban, Trump? What?
December 22, 2025Dec 22 42 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said: 17 January 2024 Section 4 of the Foreign Enlistment Act 1870 makes it an offence for a British subject to enlist in the military of a foreign state at war with another foreign state with which the UK is at peace. That prohibition does not extend, however, to enlistment in a foreign government's forces which are engaged in a civil war or combating terrorism or internal uprisings. The Occupied Palestinian Territories are not currently recognised as a state by the UK. It is the UK government's longstanding position that the Fourth Geneva Convention applies to the Occupied Palestinian Territories, and that Israel is an occupying power under that convention. The 1870 Act therefore does not apply in this instance. https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2024-01-09/8748/ “The Occupied Palestinian Territories are not currently recognised as a state by the UK.” That changed when the UK formally recognized the Palestinian State.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: The learned gentleman is himself weaving his own tangled web. I have not claimed a Guardian article is sufficient evidence to ‘stand up in court’, I have provided a link to a Guardian article that reports 10 individuals are under investigation for war crimes while serving with the IDF. With regards to service in foreign armies, I‘ve provided the actual law, which regardless of it being 250 years old, remains the law. The not so learned gentleman Nick has provided an internet search which does not ‘expand upon The Foreign Enlistment Act of 1870’, not does it real it. The learned gentlemen’s personal opinion on whether or not Palestine constitutes a ‘friendly state’ is noted. If the learned gentleman has evidence of war between the UK and the State of Palestine please provide below. Afghanistan, Taliban, Trump? What? When you set yourself up as the apparent authority on a subject, as you so often do, such rather banal sarcasm is really rather a pathetic, and empty response.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: The learned gentleman is himself weaving his own tangled web. I have not claimed a Guardian article is sufficient evidence to ‘stand up in court’, I have provided a link to a Guardian article that reports 10 individuals are under investigation for war crimes while serving with the IDF. With regards to service in foreign armies, I‘ve provided the actual law, which regardless of it being 250 years old, remains the law. The not so learned gentleman Nick has provided an internet search which does not ‘expand upon The Foreign Enlistment Act of 1870’, not does it real it. The learned gentlemen’s personal opinion on whether or not Palestine constitutes a ‘friendly state’ is noted. If the learned gentleman has evidence of war between the UK and the State of Palestine please provide below. Afghanistan, Taliban, Trump? What? I've revisited your comment on my post. It is quite clear that you find my attempt to present a thought through point of view shall we say over elaborate. References to the Taliban and Afghanistan, and Trump were clearly explained in my post. Very well, let us put it in plainer, simpler language, unencumbered by any arguments: you are talking <deleted>, shut uo and give your arse a rest!
December 22, 2025Dec 22 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: With regards to service in foreign armies, I‘ve provided the actual law, which regardless of it being 250 years old, remains the law. The not so learned gentleman Nick has provided an internet search which does not ‘expand upon The Foreign Enlistment Act of 1870’, not does it real it. No one has been prosecuted under that law for over 100 years . They aren't going to start prosecuting now . Don't forget its just signing up for different army that the charges will be . They wouldn't get prosecuted for genociding , just joining an army
December 22, 2025Dec 22 @Evil Penevil You said to me "You are holding Jews collectively responsible for the actions of the current Israeli government. That's one of the examples the IHRA definition gives of antisemitism." (my emphasis) You are saying therefore I meet one of the tests for antisemitism, therefore I am an antisemite. Except, I never said "I" hold Jews collectively responsible. I said Israel's actions are fueling antisemitism worldwide. You said " You are stating there's a causal relationship ("direct consequence") between the rise in antisemitism worldwide and the actions of the Israeli government in Gaza. You are saying people think ill of Jews and commit acts of antisemitism because of the actions of the IDF and Israeli have caused people to change their opinion about Jews. How is that NOT holding Jews collectively responsible for the actions of the Israeli government? Why would people change their opinion of Jews in the U.K., Australia, the U.S. and other countries if they didn't believe jews outside Israel in some way bore responsibility for the actions of the Israeli government?" I agree with you, people worldwide ARE holding Jews responsible for Israel's actions. There IS A CAUSAL LINK. It IS wrong and it is antisemitic. But let's not forget, I never said I hold jews collectively responsible, I think it's completely wrong. You said in response to @stevenl Why would the actions of Israel have an effect on the attitude towards Jews worldwide unless Jews are collectively responsible for such actions? Jews are NOT collectively responsible for such actions, but that doesn't stop people from reacting that way, I agree it's wrong and antisemitic. I reproduced your posts here because you broke the rules by including more than 3 quotes in your post.
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