Terrain, Toxins, and the Intelligence of the Body

An interview with Amandha Dawn Vollmer

Source: https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/interview-with-amandha-dawn-vollmer

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Unbekoming wrote: 

Amandha Dawn Vollmer has been one of my most important teachers. A naturopathic doctor with over two decades of clinical experience, she helped me understand connections otherwise invisible within conventional frameworks — the historical link between arsenic exposure and what we call smallpox and chickenpox, the way modern obstetrics preys on women through medicalized birth, unnecessary interventions, and the systematic dismantling of midwifery. She pointed me toward the antibody deception, what might more accurately be called a racket — an industrial narrative designed to serve and protect not just pharmaceutical interests but the broader chemical complex. By attributing disease to germs and immune responses, this framework deflects attention from environmental toxins as root causes. Pesticides, heavy metals, industrial chemicals — all escape scrutiny when the conversation stays fixed on pathogens. Vollmer also deepened my understanding of why virology, as currently practiced, fails basic scientific standards.

Forest Maready and Suzanne Humphries were my primary school. JB Handley and Mary Holland were my high school. Without them, I would never have been ready to understand what Vollmer teaches. They built the foundation — the questioning, the pattern recognition, the willingness to examine what we’ve been told about vaccines and childhood health. Vollmer is my university. Not because she’s better than the others, but because her material requires the groundwork they provided. She operates at a level where terrain theory, pleomorphism, frequency medicine, and the failures of germ theory all converge into a coherent framework.

This interview covers that framework in detail. Vollmer explains how childhood rashes function as natural detoxification events rather than infections, why she calls ivermectin a “double cross,” and how the suppression-to-chronic-disease pattern works — the cascade from eczema to asthma to deeper pathology when symptoms are repeatedly shut down rather than supported. She discusses raising her 14-year-old daughter entirely outside conventional medicine, the role of parasites as indicators of terrain rather than enemies to kill, and why modern menopause has become a painful condition when it was once a quiet transition. She traces her own path to understanding virology’s foundational problems, crediting Dr. Stefan Lanka and the study of pleomorphism and isopathy for the breakthrough. The conversation moves through homeopathy, DMSO, colloidal silver, and frequency medicine as tools for supporting the body’s innate healing intelligence.

 

You can read the full (lengthy but very worthwhile) interview here > https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/interview-with-amandha-dawn-vollmer

11 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Terrain, Toxins, and the Intelligence of the Body

An interview with Amandha Dawn Vollmer

Source: https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/interview-with-amandha-dawn-vollmer

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Unbekoming wrote: 

Amandha Dawn Vollmer has been one of my most important teachers. A naturopathic doctor with over two decades of clinical experience, she helped me understand connections otherwise invisible within conventional frameworks — the historical link between arsenic exposure and what we call smallpox and chickenpox, the way modern obstetrics preys on women through medicalized birth, unnecessary interventions, and the systematic dismantling of midwifery. She pointed me toward the antibody deception, what might more accurately be called a racket — an industrial narrative designed to serve and protect not just pharmaceutical interests but the broader chemical complex. By attributing disease to germs and immune responses, this framework deflects attention from environmental toxins as root causes. Pesticides, heavy metals, industrial chemicals — all escape scrutiny when the conversation stays fixed on pathogens. Vollmer also deepened my understanding of why virology, as currently practiced, fails basic scientific standards.

Forest Maready and Suzanne Humphries were my primary school. JB Handley and Mary Holland were my high school. Without them, I would never have been ready to understand what Vollmer teaches. They built the foundation — the questioning, the pattern recognition, the willingness to examine what we’ve been told about vaccines and childhood health. Vollmer is my university. Not because she’s better than the others, but because her material requires the groundwork they provided. She operates at a level where terrain theory, pleomorphism, frequency medicine, and the failures of germ theory all converge into a coherent framework.

This interview covers that framework in detail. Vollmer explains how childhood rashes function as natural detoxification events rather than infections, why she calls ivermectin a “double cross,” and how the suppression-to-chronic-disease pattern works — the cascade from eczema to asthma to deeper pathology when symptoms are repeatedly shut down rather than supported. She discusses raising her 14-year-old daughter entirely outside conventional medicine, the role of parasites as indicators of terrain rather than enemies to kill, and why modern menopause has become a painful condition when it was once a quiet transition. She traces her own path to understanding virology’s foundational problems, crediting Dr. Stefan Lanka and the study of pleomorphism and isopathy for the breakthrough. The conversation moves through homeopathy, DMSO, colloidal silver, and frequency medicine as tools for supporting the body’s innate healing intelligence.

 

You can read the full (lengthy but very worthwhile) interview here > https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/interview-with-amandha-dawn-vollmer

 

Amandha Vollmer - one of my heroes for sure. Suzy Humphries too.

 

Certainly in touch with nature. Promotes urine therapy as an essential aspect of natural healing. 

12 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

 

Amandha Vollmer - one of my heroes for sure. Suzy Humphries too.

 

Certainly in touch with nature. Promotes urine therapy as an essential aspect of natural healing. 

Natural healing may work in a pure pristine natural environment; regretfully humanity has destroyed all those environments on this planet.  Ergo, time for action B.

22 minutes ago, JimHuaHin said:

Natural healing may work in a pure pristine natural environment; regretfully humanity has destroyed all those environments on this planet.  Ergo, time for action B.

 Interested to learn more about your 'action B' and what it entails. 

15 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 Interested to learn more about your 'action B' and what it entails. 

Invent diseases and roll up yer sleeve.

5 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Dr. Stefan Lanka and the study of pleomorphism and isopathy for the breakthrough

 

Well...... it took her 18 years to revert to eating other than vegan (during which time i assume she promoted being a vegan) ....... Now, she touts 

this new "breakthrough" .

 

Hey , she could be right .   no such thing as a virus.   there are no bad parasites.   its all lies .      

 

could be right .    could be wrong .

 

 

3 hours ago, rumak said:

 

Well...... it took her 18 years to revert to eating other than vegan (during which time i assume she promoted being a vegan) ....... Now, she touts 

this new "breakthrough" .

Hey , she could be right .   no such thing as a virus.   there are no bad parasites.   its all lies .      

could be right .    could be wrong .

 

Almost everything she stated in that interview resonated with me as it is closely aligned with my own thinking on the subject of healthy living.

And for me, the fact that she openly speaks about her 'vegan period' and seems to have transcended that narrow view, also speaks in her favour. 

There are many roads on your individual healthy living journey, and you can travel simultaneously those that appeal most to you.  Listening to your intuition and gut feeling will help you make the right choices in that jungle.  Also, except for the avoidance of toxins of any kind, your individual choices are not the sole path and one should be careful not to tout them as the One and Only way like the one-trick-ponies of allopathic and naturopathic medicine are often doing. 

  

31 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

There are many roads on your individual healthy living journey, and you can travel simultaneously those that appeal most to you.  Listening to your intuition and gut feeling will help you make the right choices in that jungle.  Also, except for the avoidance of toxins of any kind, your individual choices are not the sole path and one should be careful not to tout them as the One and Only way like the one-trick-ponies of allopathic and naturopathic medicine are often doing. 

 

and that , my friend........ is why I am always here to remind people of that when they push tooooo hard .

and i have continuously voiced "my opinions"  ...... which i admit are only my opinions at the time.     

I entertain thoughts from many sources , as many as i choose to .  And I have for years, even on this forum........ said that I am doing the best that I can to survive on this journey .  

I am certainly NOT someone who has made any claims that my path is the sole one to take .   Actually,  i have spent my time, from an early age, doing quite the opposite.   Living a life very different from the "norm". 

I have never been a preacher.   I don't like preachers .

 

note:  maybe your "intent"  was not to imply that you were addressing me with the uses of YOUR  in the comment .   

 

as for praising those that "transcend "  their previous actions or views.... it does seem like people use that with those they choose to admire.   NOT, with those they seek to criticise.

 

I just try to be fair ...... either way .   Not read with a bias based on my current course .  The world is full of flip floppers .......  fancy words ......

A tricky road to travel for the independent thinker. 

BTW :   I use DMSO  and would have ordered A.D. Vollmer's book through Amazon....... but shipping is pang mak .

 

BTW 2 :  The real pioneer in the DMSO healing is Dr. Jacob :

 

"The primary pioneer of DMSO for medical use in humans was Dr. Stanley Jacob, an American surgeon and head of the organ transplant program at the University of Oregon Medical School in the 1960s. He is often referred to as the "Father of DMSO".    I have read about him as well .  

 

Nowadays it is becoming "the latest thing" ...... with substackers jumping on the bandwagon and  even at home housekeepers giving youtube videos on it ! 

That is why i am not impressed by any one particular advocate,  as this same thing happens with every "new"  idea .....which is copied by every other stacker (as well as the usual trump good/trump sucks daily crap) .

 

I am having success with it ....... but think : If our body holds all the answers, why do all these "naturapaths" and other "alternative health folks"  keep bombarding us with a thousand and one "solutions"  for all that ails us ?    hmmmm   

 

Maybe as Stiddle suggests...........$$$$$$$$$

 

21 hours ago, rumak said:

I am having success with it ....... but think : If our body holds all the answers, why do all these "naturapaths" and other "alternative health folks"  keep bombarding us with a thousand and one "solutions"  for all that ails us ? 

 

Just a very brief and "simple"  rumak explanation :

 

These "experts"  have been studying and examining the body's complex system for twenty,  thirty years.   Findings and "remedies"  come and go , and besides that Naturapathic practioners are as diverse as any other group in their "findings, methods, and choice of protocols" .  One obvious example is where Ivermectin was and still is touted as a life saver by some , Dr. Vollmer says ...no, no .   It's lies.   ( my view is ... who knows?   If i had serious health issues i am sure i would try it ) .   BUT..... i never took it prophylactically  !    my gut ,  trusted my "terrain "  😊

 

 

Every time one says " read and use your own judgement , don't follow just one cult .   ( some are nice to add ...."even what i say" ) ... well, i agree.

 

After 60 or more years of living.... nothing is a quick fix .  Knowledge of how the health systems work and importantly how they can break down with age are IMO paramount when trying to make informed decisions.

 I believe that sometimes stop gap measures are necessary , to temporarily ease cases where extreme stress exists .   Dr. Vollmer did appear to acknowledge that as well .  (par. 15 ) 

 

As for the thousand and one supplements and mushrooms and tree barks out there ............ I take one or two .   

 

On 12/26/2025 at 7:27 AM, Stiddle Mump said:

Amandha Vollmer - one of my heroes for sure.

her quote :  "She speaks frequently about the danger of ideology over observation," ........

and yet,  her actions are indeed an ideology !    "An ideology is a comprehensive system of ideas, beliefs, and values that shapes how individuals or groups understand the world"

She writes books, does paid interviews,  has a large following and makes a lot of money from promoting her latest ideology (which is based solely on other "teachers"  , and HER observational view .)    

I am not arguing that some of her (not really new or earthshattering "theories"  are ones i disagree with .   Just that they are what they are .   More copy, paste, and revise (done in the privacy of her own mind, of course ) .   And altered or deleted  as time goes by and new flavors emerge.    

 

This should be another wake-up call to the "free thinkers"  here .   Have no heroes !  One in a million of these writers has actually discovered something unique .  Has not previously fallen prey to the  "eggs are bad.... cholesterol is bad...... do this exercise to heal within days ..... there is no such things as covid ....... covid is a hoax ....... it would have been much worse......... no such thing as a virus ...  

 

Your body.... your choice .     Do what these "experts "  do (no, not read and choose the best idea that fits your bias) .........  read testimonials (harder and harder to find in this Ai takeover and censorship world) .    Think,  and choose,  and try .

 

the "problem "  i have here is when indeed.... some choose heroes.   Then critical thinking disappears,  and selective thinking replaces it .    Ms. Vollmer is just one example ( RP praised her ability to change her mind ).... as she once was a strict vegan . 18 years .  How many people would you guess were influenced by Vollmers beliefs at that time .  18 years.

 

and now....... can one even find the interviews and articles and promotions regarding her view on that diet ?   Shouldn't that be available ?  All i found was , basically, an attempt (rather successful)  , to scrub away that part of her history.   Not that dissimalar to what we accuse those responsible in recent events of doing :

 

 

I was truly surprised that even Alter  displayed a bias when asked about Vollmer's past beliefs and supporting documentation :  the usual "softening tactics and words were used :  "likely,  occasionally,  however , her focus ............"

• She likely offered recipes, detox protocols, and advice grounded in vegan or raw food frameworks.
• She occasionally referenced veganism as a path of purification or healing.
• However, her focus was more on detox and vitality, not animal rights or ideology.

That said, most of that older material has been deleted, retracted, or replaced on her primary channels 

 

That said ............... time for a bike ride

 

 

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1 hour ago, rumak said:

her quote :  "She speaks frequently about the danger of ideology over observation," ........

and yet,  her actions are indeed an ideology !    "An ideology is a comprehensive system of ideas, beliefs, and values that shapes how individuals or groups understand the world"

She writes books, does paid interviews,  has a large following and makes a lot of money from promoting her latest ideology (which is based solely on other "teachers"  , and HER observational view .)    

I am not arguing that some of her (not really new or earthshattering "theories"  are ones i disagree with .   Just that they are what they are .   More copy, paste, and revise (done in the privacy of her own mind, of course ) .   And altered or deleted  as time goes by and new flavors emerge.    

 

This should be another wake-up call to the "free thinkers"  here .   Have no heroes !  One in a million of these writers has actually discovered something unique .  Has not previously fallen prey to the  "eggs are bad.... cholesterol is bad...... do this exercise to heal within days ..... there is no such things as covid ....... covid is a hoax ....... it would have been much worse......... no such thing as a virus ...  

 

Your body.... your choice .     Do what these "experts "  do (no, not read and choose the best idea that fits your bias) .........  read testimonials (harder and harder to find in this Ai takeover and censorship world) .    Think,  and choose,  and try .

 

the "problem "  i have here is when indeed.... some choose heroes.   Then critical thinking disappears,  and selective thinking replaces it .    Ms. Vollmer is just one example ( RP praised her ability to change her mind ).... as she once was a strict vegan . 18 years .  How many people would you guess were influenced by Vollmers beliefs at that time .  18 years.

 

and now....... can one even find the interviews and articles and promotions regarding her view on that diet ?   Shouldn't that be available ?  All i found was , basically, an attempt (rather successful)  , to scrub away that part of her history.   Not that dissimalar to what we accuse those responsible in recent events of doing :

 

 

I was truly surprised that even Alter  displayed a bias when asked about Vollmer's past beliefs and supporting documentation :  the usual "softening tactics and words were used :  "likely,  occasionally,  however , her focus ............"

• She likely offered recipes, detox protocols, and advice grounded in vegan or raw food frameworks.
• She occasionally referenced veganism as a path of purification or healing.
• However, her focus was more on detox and vitality, not animal rights or ideology.

That said, most of that older material has been deleted, retracted, or replaced on her primary channels 

 

That said ............... time for a bike ride....

I respect the white-coats that have seen the light, the truth, and say so. Even now there is just a handful (in the big picture) of her ilk.

 

Much of what she preaches is similar to my beliefs. And she is a straight talker. I like that.

 

I have evolved somewhat since my Uni days of 45+ years ago. My studies were then - in a nutshell - how humans adapt to their environment and stimuli. Now, I'm more appreciative of the role of bio-electricity and ether energy. But, I would say I'm now 80% the same as back then.

 

I'm still learning. I listen to all the theories, ideas and philosophies; modern and old. I ask 'where is your evidence'. So, above all, I'm a stickler for 'truth'. I was back in my Uni days, and in the 1990s when I was sometimes asked to join a platform with some quite distinguished guests. Dr Vernon Coleman being one. And, on the point of truth; a virus has never been shown to exist in nature. So, if I'm correct, what is the point of a vaccine? We are told; it's to lessen the effects, or stop altogether - if one was unfortunate enough to come face-to-face with - a virus that causes disease.

 

As I sometimes post; good health is the norm. It don't need to have toxic filth continually put into it to stay heathy. It's Big Pharma, and the $$$ white-coats, that make it seem difficult to comprehend. My take: Try to avoid serious accidents. Eat nutritious food. Stay away from toxic stuff; be that poor food, dirty water or foul air. Keep stress to an absolute minimum. Love nature and keep a positive outlook on life.

 

Enjoy yer bike ride Sir. I'm off to feed the ducks.

2 hours ago, rumak said:

I was truly surprised that even Alter  displayed a bias when asked about Vollmer's past beliefs and supporting documentation :  the usual "softening tactics and words were used :  "likely,  occasionally,  however , her focus ............"

 

Aha...... i learned a new term !   (one that our fiend google is champion at ....... but then noticed it's everywhere .   Pretty much every comment or conversation .   wowww

 

and the term is ........ Subjective Modifier  

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

on the point of truth; a virus has never been shown to exist in nature.

 

Many people say that they have indeed shown that viruses exist .   in that case you would be wrong. 

 

so...... we could go on like this forever ....... i think it has been proved.  you refuse to accept the evidence presented  (which i did at least post people and quotes saying that )

 

not a big deal to me .

 

  btw:  did you believe that ivermectin was a fix for "covid" ?  many here do/did

11 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

Many people say that they have indeed shown that viruses exist .   in that case you would be wrong. 

 

so...... we could go on like this forever ....... i think it has been proved.  you refuse to accept the evidence presented  (which i did at least post people and quotes saying that )

 

not a big deal to me .

 

  btw:  did you believe that ivermectin was a fix for "covid" ?  many here do/did

If there is no viruses there is no humans either, we are just electrons floating around in shapes and formations only visible to our self. 

 

What he continues to pin down, we are just an illusion in a simulation, and we have no control whatsoever. Everything is an conspiracy 

 

As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light in the darkness of mere being? But for who? 

1 hour ago, rumak said:

 

Many people say that they have indeed shown that viruses exist .   in that case you would be wrong. 

 

so...... we could go on like this forever ....... i think it has been proved.  you refuse to accept the evidence presented  (which i did at least post people and quotes saying that )

 

not a big deal to me .

 

  btw:  did you believe that ivermectin was a fix for "covid" ?  many here do/did

On the virus point Rumak Sir. To show a virus exists, one has to find one. I've not seen any evidence that anyone has found one. And of course, finding one is just the start. Can they then be shown to cause a disease. No one has done that yet. And IMO, the white-coats will never be able to so. Cause there is no such entity as a pathogenic virus.

 

Regarding the last point. Ivermectin.  I don't believe there was any such thing as covid. The research I've done suggests that it lessens the impact of detox symptoms. Not a good thing IMO.

14 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

On the virus point Rumak Sir. To show a virus exists, one has to find one. I've not seen any evidence that anyone has found one. And of course, finding one is just the start. Can they then be shown to cause a disease. No one has done that yet. And IMO, the white-coats will never be able to so. Cause there is no such entity as a pathogenic virus.

 

i have seen evidence that i believe .    like i said,  you keep repeating yourself .   Let it go.......

Also i have gotten a disease that is in people infected with the HCV virus.   I even posted information about the virus..... and how the drug used stops it from multiplying.

 

you can believe it or not ........ i think i have proved my point .    You have absolutely no proof what i report is false.   Just that you do not think it is credible .   Your opinion,  sir .  You are not the only credible person , with the say all on what is a fact .    (no need to constantly repeat "terrain theory " ) .    

 

you are starting to sound like transam .   its all lies .   its all lies.   

At least i have the sense to accept that our OPINIONS  differ .

I keep presenting interesting info and ideas................. you just repeat,  sir.

18 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

i have seen evidence that i believe .    like i said,  you keep repeating yourself .   Let it go.......

Also i have gotten a disease that is in people infected with the HCV virus.   I even posted information about the virus..... and how the drug used stops it from multiplying.

 

you can believe it or not ........ i think i have proved my point .    You have absolutely no proof what i report is false.   Just that you do not think it is credible .   Your opinion,  sir .  You are not the only credible person , with the say all on what is a fact .    (no need to constantly repeat "terrain theory " ) .    

 

you are starting to sound like transam .   its all lies .   its all lies.   

At least i have the sense to accept that our OPINIONS  differ .

I keep presenting interesting info and ideas................. you just repeat,  sir.

OK Sir. I hear you. Glad you are not suffering any longer.

 

Disease causing viruses do not exist. You doubt me? Please point me to just one paper that shows where a virus - any virus - has been found, isolated, purified and shown to cause any disease. The white-coats can do it with other tiny entities. Why not a virus?

 

For me; the reason is obvious. Too much $$$ at stake for them to admit a virus don't exist. But hey! They have them in computers.

4 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

OK Sir. I hear you. Glad you are not suffering any longer.

 

Disease causing viruses do not exist. You doubt me? Please point me to just one paper that shows where a virus - any virus - has been found, isolated, purified and shown to cause any disease. The white-coats can do it with other tiny entities. Why not a virus?

 

For me; the reason is obvious. Too much $$$ at stake.

 

You definitely are a "gotta have the last word warrior" .   First, i need to point that out to you.    You have been given names of some respected doctors that believe differently than you or your fellow theorists.   You have been given extensive info on what i went through and the tests involved .    You have not even come close to "proving"  that something called a virus does not exist .  In fact .... other than talking about sunshine and grass and other cliches about caring for ones "terrain" ...... You have proved nothing .  There are hundreds of thousands who have taken a drug (which i named) ,that by a process , which i showed on a post,  stopped the virus from multiplying , till none was detectable .(your response...."its all a lie" ).   SEE BELOW

Instead of arguing .... go back and read my posts.   They contain a credible case for their being a virus :      the only debate seems to be whether they are living or non-living entities  :   

Despite the lack of independent function, viruses possess some traits that blur the line between living and non-living entities. 

"Genetic material: Viruses contain a genome (either DNA or RNA) that carries the instructions for making more viruses.

Reproduction/Replication: Once inside a host, they direct the cell to produce more viruses, effectively "reproducing" in a parasitic manner."

 

Many famous figures, including actors, musicians, and athletes, have had Hepatitis C, often contracting it through drug use or contaminated blood transfusions, with notable examples being Pamela Anderson, Anthony Kiedis, Naomi Judd, and Steven Tyler, many of whom have spoken out, advocated for awareness, or achieved cures with modern treatments. 

 

go ahead..... have your last word .  I dare say i have grown tired of responding .

i care as little for White Coats as you do......... but find no heroes in those you feel are worthy of such.

 

Malone, Kirsch, and the whole group of em are often at each others throats as well as getting sick or making mistakes (like taking the jab) .  I gave good insights into the $$$$ games played , with an example of A. Yollmer today.     Yeah, they're all straight talkers, till you try to debate them on their "forum" .   Then it's.... get lost troll ! 

 

you got a lot to learn . I'm trying to enlighten you .   ( you like me for talking straight? )

You guys say that..... till someone does so to thou .    

Then its whispers behind the back  ..................

Rumak Sir. I'm not the one saying viruses exist. You are. Produce the evidence Sir.

 

Just like someone saying; 'Prove the devil don't exist. I say; the onus is on you to qualify such a statement. And he comes back at me; 'I know, cause the man in the church says so. So the devil must exist.'

 

Nature has the answers we seek.

11 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

Instead of arguing .... go back and read my posts.   They contain a credible case for their being a virus :   

 

you got a lot to learn . I'm trying to enlighten you .   ( you like me for talking straight? )

................

You post deserves a reply Sir.

 

"Instead of arguing .... go back and read my posts.   They contain a credible case for their being a virus." There is no virus Sir. One has never been found. Show the evidence why don't you?  

 

"you got a lot to learn . I'm trying to enlighten you .   ( you like me for talking straight? )"

 

Thanks! I'm learning all the time Sir. But to change my mind I like to see some evidence.

 

Nature has the answers we seek. Nature is truth.

35 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Rumak Sir. I'm not the one saying viruses exist. You are. Produce the evidence

 

hahahaha   CLASSIC !   

 

did your daughter get ANY  vaccinations ? 

14 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

hahahaha   CLASSIC !   

 

did your daughter get ANY  vaccinations ? 

My daughter in Thailand? Absolutely not.

23 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

My daughter in Thailand? Absolutely not.

 

I congratulate you on that ..... must be around 14 years ago (guessing)

hmm, but children before in UK ?  did get vaxxes ?

 

 

My thai daughter (born in Chiangrai 37 years ago)  did get the few basic ones given back then .   Just very few .   Hardly ever sick ... 

Lives in Canada and will not give Covid vax to her 2 kids...... but the other shots (combination wise a lot nowadays) ....... i could not talk her out of.  

 

much sickness...... to my dismay 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, rumak said:

 

I congratulate you on that ..... must be around 14 years ago (guessing)

hmm, but children before in UK ?  did get vaxxes ?

 

 

My thai daughter (born in Chiangrai 37 years ago)  did get the few basic ones given back then .   Just very few .   Hardly ever sick ... 

Lives in Canada and will not give Covid vax to her 2 kids...... but the other shots (combination wise a lot nowadays) ....... i could not talk her out of.  

 

much sickness...... to my dismay 

 

Yes, Mildred is just turned 16.

 

The kids in the UK were mostly jabbed up. Although the last one hardly had any. She was the one who became the World Triathlon Champ, so they didn't do her much harm. But fingers X'ed for all of them.