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Gaza genocide, the world changed – sovereignty died and thuggery

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23 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You asked me what the protests were about , I didn't know and I did websearch and the results came up about Orthodox Jews protesting bout military service and I posted them for you .

No need for you to be obnoxious and in future , do webserches yourself, instead of asking me

You posted that the most recent protests in Israel were from orthodox Jews protesting against nation service. They did protest, but that was a long time ago.

The youtube video I posted of a large protest was not about orthodox Jews and national service. Indeed, when you look at the crowd, I didn't see any overtly orthodox Jews.

So, in my opinion, you are wrong. The current protests, and that youtube video is now only 2 days old, a day old when I posted it, is not about orthodox Jews and national service. Do you claim that it is?

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45 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

I thought that was clear. Did you watch it?

Seemed to be Anti Government protests , rather then being Anti war protests .

Two different things

37 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

You posted that the most recent protests in Israel were from orthodox Jews protesting against nation service. They did protest, but that was a long time ago.

The youtube video I posted of a large protest was not about orthodox Jews and national service. Indeed, when you look at the crowd, I didn't see any overtly orthodox Jews.

So, in my opinion, you are wrong. The current protests, and that youtube video is now only 2 days old, a day old when I posted it, is not about orthodox Jews and national service. Do you claim that it is?

I didn't know what the protests were about.....................thats why I asked .

Well, that is what you asked I Did my best to answer by doing a websearch

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On 1/19/2026 at 8:47 PM, KhunHeineken said:

Published a day ago.

I had a chuckle at the "BiBi Escobar" sign.

Where are all the orthodox Jews protesting military service???? 🤣

3 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Well, I've never seen a post like that, but that's possibly because it's been deleted by the Mods before I have had a chance to comment.

If I did see a post like that, I would post that I disagree, but in relation to Gaza, for the record, that does not mean I am pro Israel and anti Palestinian.

In my opinion, the way Netanyahu has prosecuted the war in Gaza, it has set back Jewry decades. It's a little like Putin when he took Crimea, with the west putting sanctions on Russia. Putin effectively put the average Russian back behind the iron curtain.

Netanyahu has caused a global flare up of anti sematism. Of course, his argument will be it's always been there, and in relation to the Middle East, certainly, but there has been a sharp rise in anti Israel sentiment in the latter part of the war. Notice I said anti Israel, not anti semitism.

Basically, people protesting the war, not the Jewish faith.

Where have you gone ?

I tagged you in post which stated it

Are you hiding from that as well ?

Wasn't me , I not see anything , honest Gov

11 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Where have you gone ?

I tagged you in post which stated it

Are you hiding from that as well ?

Wasn't me , I not see anything , honest Gov

Huh????

18 minutes ago, JimCM said:

No idea what I am looking at there.

Is that just some fun, or some type of religious celebration?

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I didn't know what the protests were about.....................thats why I asked .

Well, that is what you asked I Did my best to answer by doing a websearch

You said the protests where about orthodox Jews against national service. I agreed, there were protests about that, but some time ago. The current protests are anti government / anti Netanyahu. Many Israeli's don't want the war to continue in their name.

10 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

You said the protests where about orthodox Jews against national service. I agreed, there were protests about that, but some time ago. The current protests are anti government / anti Netanyahu. Many Israeli's don't want the war to continue in their name.

The protests was not about the war .

The majority of Israelis still support the illimitation of the terrorist group Hamas .

Protests are local issues , NOT international

26 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Huh????

I tagged you in a post .

Did you not see it again ?

"No, it is not. They are following an old scrip, nothing new. The Palestinians are the Amalek and need to be exterminated. The rest of humanity is going to suffer the same faith."

1 hour ago, KhunHeineken said:

No idea what I am looking at there.

Is that just some fun, or some type of religious celebration?

Vigorous male dancing is part of the culture of ultra-orthodox Haredi Jews. Bottle dancing is NOT, but was invented for the famous Broadway musical Fiddler on the Roof and the hugely popular film adaptation.

11 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Vigorous male dancing is part of the culture of ultra-orthodox Haredi Jews. Bottle dancing is NOT, but was invented for the famous Broadway musical Fiddler on the Roof and the hugely popular film adaptation.

Interesting.

I wonder if there was any bottle dancing at the party in Pai that's mentioned in another thread. 🙂

I could ask Nick, but I'm sure he'll read this post anyway. Was the law passed for compulsory military service for orthodox Jews?

13 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I tagged you in a post .

Did you not see it again ?

"No, it is not. They are following an old scrip, nothing new. The Palestinians are the Amalek and need to be exterminated. The rest of humanity is going to suffer the same faith."

Ok. I get it.

I didn't claim not to have seen the post. I actually didn't see it. Sometimes I don't read every post if I join a thread and it's 10 pages in. Also, sometimes Mods remove a post after some people have seen it, but not all.

"The claim is that Jews want to exterminate all non Jews." Well, I disagree with this statement. Do you see this statement as anti semetic, or anti Israeli?

Most Israeli's tend to simply say they are Jewish, like, that automatically means they are from Israel, but there are American Jews, Australian Jews etc etc. How is one to know? It's a religion, not a nationality.

I'm interested in the red line between offending the Jewish religion, thus being anti semetic, and offending Israeli's, thus being racist. Can you be one and not the other?

It would be funny for an antisemite to meet a stranger, and to inform them they are from Israel, so the antisemite abuses them, only for the stranger to tell the antisemite "I am Christian Israeli." Would the antisemite say, "Oh. Sorry. That's ok then." 🙂

I would be interested in your view?

1 hour ago, KhunHeineken said:

Really?

I did men that Israelis were protesting about local affairs that effect Israel , rather than intentional affairs like the Gaza war ,

1 hour ago, KhunHeineken said:

Ok. I get it.

I didn't claim not to have seen the post. I actually didn't see it. Sometimes I don't read every post if I join a thread and it's 10 pages in. Also, sometimes Mods remove a post after some people have seen it, but not all.

"The claim is that Jews want to exterminate all non Jews." Well, I disagree with this statement. Do you see this statement as anti semetic, or anti Israeli?

I will ask him @GoodieAfterDark

Who is going to kill all the Worlds non Jews , all 8 Billion of them.

Is it Jews who will kill every non Jew or is it Israel ?

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I did men that Israelis were protesting about local affairs that effect Israel , rather than intentional affairs like the Gaza war ,

Are you suggesting the war in Gaza has no impact on local Israeli's?

I'm sure the families of over 900 dead IDF soldiers would disagree with you.

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I will ask him @GoodieAfterDark

Who is going to kill all the Worlds non Jews , all 8 Billion of them.

Is it Jews who will kill every non Jew or is it Israel ?

I will have a look at some of that member's posts. Sounds like an interesting character. 🙂

3 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Interesting.

I wonder if there was any bottle dancing at the party in Pai that's mentioned in another thread. 🙂

I could ask Nick, but I'm sure he'll read this post anyway. Was the law passed for compulsory military service for orthodox Jews?

I doubt you'll find many ultra-Orthodox Jews among the backpackers in Pai. 😁 But it is possible non-Orthodox or secular Jews may have balanced plastic 2-liter Coke bottles on their heads, although it is something usually reserved for wedding dances.

In answer to your question: in 2014, Israeli law was changed to end exemptions for full-time ultra-Orthodox adult students at religious institutions. For some Haredim men, full-time study of religious texts was a life-long profession with high status among their peers.

For most people, Jews and non-Jews, full-time study is done in preparation for a future profession. For ultra-Orthodox Jews, full-time study WAS a profession. It was regarded as the highest level of devotion to Judaism.

Israel ends ultra-Orthodox military service exemptions

Israel's parliament has approved legislation that will end exemptions from military service for ultra-Orthodox Jewish seminary students.

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Exemptions from military conscription were given to the ultra-Orthodox, or Haredim, when Israel was created in 1948. At that time there were only 400 seminary students.

Now, owing to their high birth rate, the ultra-Orthodox account for about 10% of the country's population of about 8 million.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-26542316

In fact, nothing much changed because the new law wasn't enforced. Ultra-Orthodox men continued to receive draft exemptions. In a landmark ruling in 2014:

Israel’s high court orders the army to draft ultra-Orthodox men, rattling Netanyahu’s government

JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel’s Supreme Court on Tuesday ruled unanimously that the military must begin drafting ultra-Orthodox men for compulsory service, a landmark decision that could lead to the collapse of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s governing coalition as Israel continues to wage war in Gaza.

The historic ruling effectively puts an end to a decades-old system that granted ultra-Orthodox men broad exemptions from military service while maintaining mandatory enlistment for the country’s secular Jewish majority. The arrangement, deemed discriminatory by critics, has created a deep chasm in Israel’s Jewish majority over who should shoulder the burden of protecting the country.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-politics-ruling-military-service-orthodox-e2a8359bcea1bd833f71845ee6af780d

That's the background to the protests over compulsory military service for ultra-Orthodox men.

1 hour ago, KhunHeineken said:

Are you suggesting the war in Gaza has no impact on local Israeli's?

I'm sure the families of over 900 dead IDF soldiers would disagree with you.

No, Israelis were protesting against Netanyahu BEFORE the war , they stopped the protests during the war to show solidarity with the war effort .

Protests have resumed now that the war has quietened down a bit

39 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

I doubt you'll find many ultra-Orthodox Jews among the backpackers in Pai. 😁

Yes, that what a joke.

39 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

But it is possible non-Orthodox or secular Jews may have balanced plastic 2-liter Coke bottles on their heads, although it is something usually reserved for wedding dances.

Happy to learn.

All Jewish weddings, or just orthodox Jewish weddings?

40 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

n answer to your question: in 2014, Israeli law was changed to end exemptions for full-time ultra-Orthodox adult students at religious institutions. For some Haredim men, full-time study of religious texts was a life-long profession with high status among their peers.

Surely not all of them went on to become Rabbi's.

I can understand those who enter the Rabbihood (yes, that word is joke) being exempt from military service, but some, if not many, may have returned to mainstream society.

43 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

For most people, Jews and non-Jews, full-time study is done in preparation for a future profession. For ultra-Orthodox Jews, full-time study WAS a profession. It was regarded as the highest level of devotion to Judaism.

I need some clarification on this one.

So here's an orthodox Jew who has studied and chosen a religious path, most likely becoming a Rabbi one day. He's married with children. Those children would be orthodox Jews as well, and will eventually hit 18 years of age, but say one wants to be a teacher, another an engineer etc. In relation to the children, by virtue of identifying as orthodox Jews, do the children have to do national service, when they have no desire to do religious studies?

I read the quotes you posted.

Question. Many armies, in the past and the present, send a religious leader to army bases. A chaplain, a priest etc. Does the IDF offer religious counciling, or possibly the equivalent of administering "the last rights" as Christians do, to soldiers on or near the battlefield?

On 1/21/2026 at 2:09 PM, KhunHeineken said:

I'm interested in the red line between offending the Jewish religion, thus being anti semetic, and offending Israeli's, thus being racist. Can you be one and not the other?

I would be interested in your view?

Lets face it ALL the World Anto semites oppose Israel and Israelis .

IMO , many if them have that opinion because of subconscious Religious connections .

Like, when they die and go to the pearly gates for the interview with Saint Peter about whether they are going up or down .

For all their sins, they can point to their posts on ASENNOW and claim to have fought the good fight and fully deserve to enter .

All subconsciously, so they dont even know they are doing it

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21 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Happy to learn.

All Jewish weddings, or just orthodox Jewish weddings?

One thing I've noticed that at celebrations the Jewish woman have to be hidden behind a curtain, and they're not allowed to balance bottles on their heads. I think it's bar mitzvahs too.

21 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Question. Many armies, in the past and the present, send a religious leader to army bases. A chaplain, a priest etc. Does the IDF offer religious counciling, or possibly the equivalent of administering "the last rights" as Christians do, to soldiers on or near the battlefield?

The IDF take Muslim Imams with them , so they can bless and say goodbye to the Muslim enemies perishing on the ground , as Israelis march on trampling over them

On 1/21/2026 at 12:25 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

I will ask him @GoodieAfterDark

Who is going to kill all the Worlds non Jews , all 8 Billion of them.

Is it Jews who will kill every non Jew or is it Israel ?

Well, there is a specific group of Jews, the Messianic racist lunatics that want to cleanse the Earth. As I mentioned before 2/3 of the Jews will be killed accordingly with their sacred books. Look up Rebbe, the spirit guide of Donald Trump. Trump, Putin, Milei, and many others belong to this movement. Some of this is being done as an act of revenge against the Romans for the destruction of temple. That is why Europe is being destroyed. First, they are exterminating the Amalek. And then they will turn against the goyim like they are creating wars where the Europeans are killing off each other like in Ukraine. I can not say much here because I will be censured.

4 hours ago, GoodieAfterDark said:

Well, there is a specific group of Jews, the Messianic racist lunatics that want to cleanse the Earth. As I mentioned before 2/3 of the Jews will be killed accordingly with their sacred books. Look up Rebbe, the spirit guide of Donald Trump. Trump, Putin, Milei, and many others belong to this movement. Some of this is being done as an act of revenge against the Romans for the destruction of temple. That is why Europe is being destroyed. First, they are exterminating the Amalek. And then they will turn against the goyim like they are creating wars where the Europeans are killing off each other like in Ukraine. I can not say much here because I will be censured.

Those people believe in Jesus , Israel regards them as being Christians rather than Jewish .

They are a Christian group

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9 hours ago, GoodieAfterDark said:

Well, there is a specific group of Jews, the Messianic racist lunatics that want to cleanse the Earth. As I mentioned before 2/3 of the Jews will be killed accordingly with their sacred books. Look up Rebbe, the spirit guide of Donald Trump. Trump, Putin, Milei, and many others belong to this movement. Some of this is being done as an act of revenge against the Romans for the destruction of temple. That is why Europe is being destroyed. First, they are exterminating the Amalek. And then they will turn against the goyim like they are creating wars where the Europeans are killing off each other like in Ukraine. I can not say much here because I will be censured.

Interesting stuff, shame you can't say more....

9 hours ago, GoodieAfterDark said:

. Look up Rebbe, the spirit guide of Donald Trump. Trump, Putin, Milei, and many others belong to this movement.

Rebbe means Rabbi .

What is the Rebbes name and what is the group called ?

I don't expect you to answer, because its a non existent group /person

On 1/22/2026 at 10:54 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

The IDF take Muslim Imams with them , so they can bless and say goodbye to the Muslim enemies perishing on the ground , as Israelis march on trampling over them

I am not sure why your post was so sarcastic. My question was a serious one.

Is there any form of last rights in the Jewish faith, administered by a Rabbi, to those where death is imminent, whether from war, or cancer, for example?

5 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Happy to learn.

All Jewish weddings, or just orthodox Jewish weddings?

Nowadays you can see bottle dancing at all types of Jewish weddings, but it's not that common. When performed at non-Orthodox weddings, the bottle dance is usually done by paid professional entertainers. The other guests may joke around with balancing a plastic bottle on their heads.

But you have to remember bottle dancing was NOT traditional at Jewish weddings and is by no means universal, even at Haredi weddings. It was made popular by the Fiddler on the Roof Broadway play and film. Bottle dancing does not have its roots in Jewish culture.

5 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Surely not all of them went on to become Rabbi's.

I can understand those who enter the Rabbihood (yes, that word is joke) being exempt from military service, but some, if not many, may have returned to mainstream society.

We're getting into complicated religious concepts now. Among the Haredim, the most pious and perfect life involves constant prayer and study of the Torah and Talmud. This study is an end unto itself and does not always lead to the practitioner becoming a rabbi. Some ultra-Orthodox Jews devote their lives to prayer and study and rely on donations from family or the public to support them.

It's important to keep in mind rabbis are teachers and experts on Jewish law. They are not the equivalent of a Catholic priest or Protestant minister because rabbis don't dispense divine sacraments. However, they do function similar to a pastor, i.e., lead a congregation.

5 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

I need some clarification on this one.

So here's an orthodox Jew who has studied and chosen a religious path, most likely becoming a Rabbi one day. He's married with children. Those children would be orthodox Jews as well, and will eventually hit 18 years of age, but say one wants to be a teacher, another an engineer etc. In relation to the children, by virtue of identifying as orthodox Jews, do the children have to do national service, when they have no desire to do religious studies?

Yes, military service is compulsory for all Israeli Jews, but full-time Haredi scholars were automatically given exemptions. Some Haredim interrupted their studies to serve in the military; others took up secular jobs after intensive study of the Torah. They compromise to some degree with living a "perfect" life of only prayer and study.

I don't want to run afoul of using too many quote boxes, so I'll just quote your final question without a box:

"Question. Many armies, in the past and the present, send a religious leader to army bases. A chaplain, a priest etc. Does the IDF offer religious counciling, or possibly the equivalent of administering "the last rights" as Christians do, to soldiers on or near the battlefield?"

Yes, the IDF has a chaplain corps that provides religious services and counseling to soldiers of all faiths. What is unique about the IDF is that its chaplains are fully trained in combat operations and could lead a combat unit if needed.

There are also special units for ultra-Orthodox troops:

Israeli military enlists first group of ultra-Orthodox recruits into brigade

(CNN) The Israeli military has enlisted the first batch of about 50 recruits into its new ultra-Orthodox brigade after a controversial decision to end their decades-long exemption from service.

By the end of the day, about 100 additional ultra-Orthodox recruits will be enlisted for reserve service, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said Sunday.

“The two companies enlisted today mark the initial step in establishing the ultra-Orthodox brigade, a significant milestone in expanding the service of the ultra-Orthodox sector in the IDF, particularly in light of the operational needs arising from the demands of the war,” a statement from the IDF read.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/05/middleeast/israel-enlist-first-ultra-orthodox-brigade-intl-latam

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