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Trump is destroying the economy

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2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Yes, but possibly ushered in by AI .... to save the day?

Because the 3-4 year timeline takes us to 2029 - 2030, about the time a lot of experts are predicting massive AI roll out.

Rocky road ahead ...

AI could have the opposite effect, it could dumb down society dramatically, and it could cause millions upon millions of job losses. There are simply too many variables to be able to predict, but my guess is that it is not going to benefit mankind very much, and it could have devastating consequences.

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    You are so completely lost in space, and virtually everybody on this forum is having a laugh at your stunning levels of ignorance when it comes to Trump and this conflict. Always deflecting and going

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Can someone please tell me how a guy who managed to bankrupt three casinos and 4 or 5 other businesses can do any better with the US economy.

It's like a pimp proclaiming the virtues of chastity..

18 hours ago, Wingate said:

Trump spent his first term lying about him giving the US "the best economy ever". He spouted that falsehood dozens of times, which is what elicited the comments questioning that and providing government data that he was lying.

All presidents talk up the economy. Stop being disingenuous. BTW, the Fed Chairman said the economy is amazing. Is he lying?

https://fortune.com/2026/03/19/jerome-powell-economy-is-amazing-iran-war-inflation-jobs-data-oil-shocks/

18 hours ago, Wingate said:

As noted many times, Trump ran up a new $8,400,000,000,000 in National Debt during Term 1, a good portion of that from the tax cut, some from his spendthrift ways, and some from Covid. Biden inherited that.

It's important to acknowledge the leader of the House. All spending bills originate in the House, and the spending related to COVID was excessive.

On 3/16/2026 at 2:18 AM, spidermike007 said:

Correct. There's no question at this point that Trump is a fascist leader.

Oh really? How?

18 hours ago, Wingate said:

What I do know is that printing $25,000 for every person in the US (Trump's debt/population) is inflationary. Inflation is not a light switch. MAGAs blame Biden because the effects of Trumpian profligacy took time to materialize. If Trump died today, and the effects of the war and soaring oil prices did not truly evidence themselves for a few months, Vance would be blamed for the resulting inflation, though it would be 100% Trump's fault.

During his term in office, Joe Biden presided over a 21% cumulative inflation rate. His policies contributed to this situation as they engaged in extensive spending after the COVID relief measures.

MIT research shows that federal spending was the overwhelming driver of the 2022 inflation spike, responsible for 42% of inflation—significantly more than supply chain issues or other factors. The study, led by Mark Kritzman of MIT Sloan, used advanced statistical modeling to analyze economic data from 1960 to 2022, concluding that government stimulus during the pandemic, including Biden’s $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan, significantly increased demand in a constrained economy, leading to higher prices.

https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/federal-spending-was-responsible-2022-spike-inflation-research-shows

15 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

AI could have the opposite effect, it could dumb down society dramatically,

It already has look how many folks just blatently cut and paste AI here, some even try to hide it.

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7 hours ago, Fact said:

Oh really? How?

I will try to be slightly more articulate than you reply suggests.

A basic primer or the use of Marxist doctrine. 

 

The most reactionary and far-right sectors of the capitalist class have teamed up to back a wannabe dictator who’s managed to assemble a mass movement of contradictory forces behind him — outright racists and misogynists along with millions of disaffected and confused members of the working class. It’s the classic formula for fascism.

But beyond the race hatred, the anti-immigrant hostility, the misogyny, and the homophobic/transphobic attacks, what else motivates significant blocs of voters to go over to the fascist side?

 

Georgi Dimitrov, one of the famed anti-fascist leaders of the 1930s, provided the beginnings of an answer:

 

“What is the source of the influence of fascism over the masses? Fascism is able to attract the masses because it demagogically appeals to their most urgent needs and demands. Fascism not only inflames prejudices that are deeply ingrained in the masses, but also plays upon the better sentiments of the masses, on their sense of justice and sometimes even on their revolutionary traditions. Fascism aims at the most unbridled exploitation of the masses but it approaches them with the most artful anti-capitalist demagogy, taking advantage of the deep hatred of the working people against the plundering bourgeoisie, the banks, the trusts, and financial magnates.”

 

Add to that the deep resentment that Trump supporters had toward law enforcement and the justice system, for going after their felonious master with such unbridled passion. 

Nearly every 250 years an empire passes Into near obscurity. It truly feels like that is the moment for the US right now, it's been on the decline for at least three decades and nearly every policy that Trump enacts exacerbates the decline, and precipitates it quite dramatically.

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19 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Can someone please tell me how a guy who managed to bankrupt three casinos and 4 or 5 other businesses can do any better with the US economy.

It's like a pimp proclaiming the virtues of chastity..

In the Fog of Don people seem to forget all the travesties of his toxic and corrupt past, and the massive amounts of destruction he has left in his wake.

17 of his businesses have failed in the past few  decades. Some at huge losses. Trump Steaks, Trump Shuttle Airline ($120 million in losses between 1988 and 1990), GoTrump, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump University, Trump Ice, The New Jersey Generals, Tour de Trump, Trump Network, Trump Magazine, Trumped!. Many businesses that licensed his name went bankrupt, or went out of business. 

And he had between four and six major bankruptcies (depending on the source), including the Trump Taj Mahal (which he spent $1.2 billion building, and was $3 billion in debt within a year of opening), Trump's Castle, Trump Place Hotel (which was very successful prior to Trump buying it in 1988, and he managed to put it into $550 million in debt by 1992!), Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts ($1.8 billion in debt by 2004, bankrupt in 2009) , and Trump Entertainment Resorts.

There are likely others. And this does not take into account the 3,600 lawsuits he was involved in as of the time he took office, the vast majority of which were filed by small contractors against his companies for non payment, or total default. Many of these contractors were crushed. It is part of his M.O. 

Promises made but never kept:

Every voter needs to be reminded of Trump's promises last time he was running:

There is very little that comes out of Donald's mouth that is the truth.....

He promised to cut the deficit. He added $8T.

He promised to build a wall. He only did 458 miles out of 2,000. Most of it was repair or replacement, not new.

He promised to make Mexico pay. They didn't. We did.

He promised to unveil a new healthcare plan. It didn't exist.

He promised a middle-class tax cut. He cut taxes for the rich. The middle class is paying for it.

He said he wouldn't play golf as President. He made 250 visits (way more than Obama) to his own golf clubs. It cost taxpayers $150 million.

He said he'd increase economic growth by 4%. Nope. Biden did.

He promised an infrastructure plan. He had none. President Biden signed a massive one.

He promised to hire "the best people." He fired 3/4 of them and then said they were the worst ever, and they said HE was in fact the worst ever.

He promised to bring down the price of prescription drugs. He didn't: Biden did.

He promised a Hillary lock-up. Nope

Promised we'd win the trade war with China. Nope, It cost about 250,000 jobs and hurt Americans, not help them.

He promised his corporate tax cuts would help and benefit Workers, and corporations would use that money to invest in American workers. They didn't, they used that money to buy back stocks.

He promised to revive the coal industry. Never happened: more coal jobs were lost during his presidency.

And this time around he promised to lower inflation, and he promised to avoid overseas adventures, and yet inflation is on the rise, prices are going up dramatically, and so far he's engaged in eight overseas incursions, adventures or wars.

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8 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

In the Fog of Don people seem to forget all the travesties of his toxic and corrupt past, and the massive amounts of destruction he has left in his wake.

17 of his businesses have failed in the past few  decades. Some at huge losses. Trump Steaks, Trump Shuttle Airline ($120 million in losses between 1988 and 1990), GoTrump, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump University, Trump Ice, The New Jersey Generals, Tour de Trump, Trump Network, Trump Magazine, Trumped!. Many businesses that licensed his name went bankrupt, or went out of business. 

And he had between four and six major bankruptcies (depending on the source), including the Trump Taj Mahal (which he spent $1.2 billion building, and was $3 billion in debt within a year of opening), Trump's Castle, Trump Place Hotel (which was very successful prior to Trump buying it in 1988, and he managed to put it into $550 million in debt by 1992!), Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts ($1.8 billion in debt by 2004, bankrupt in 2009) , and Trump Entertainment Resorts.

There are likely others. And this does not take into account the 3,600 lawsuits he was involved in as of the time he took office, the vast majority of which were filed by small contractors against his companies for non payment, or total default. Many of these contractors were crushed. It is part of his M.O. 

Promises made but never kept:

Every voter needs to be reminded of Trump's promises last time he was running:

There is very little that comes out of Donald's mouth that is the truth.....

He promised to cut the deficit. He added $8T.

He promised to build a wall. He only did 458 miles out of 2,000. Most of it was repair or replacement, not new.

He promised to make Mexico pay. They didn't. We did.

He promised to unveil a new healthcare plan. It didn't exist.

He promised a middle-class tax cut. He cut taxes for the rich. The middle class is paying for it.

He said he wouldn't play golf as President. He made 250 visits (way more than Obama) to his own golf clubs. It cost taxpayers $150 million.

He said he'd increase economic growth by 4%. Nope. Biden did.

He promised an infrastructure plan. He had none. President Biden signed a massive one.

He promised to hire "the best people." He fired 3/4 of them and then said they were the worst ever, and they said HE was in fact the worst ever.

He promised to bring down the price of prescription drugs. He didn't: Biden did.

He promised a Hillary lock-up. Nope

Promised we'd win the trade war with China. Nope, It cost about 250,000 jobs and hurt Americans, not help them.

He promised his corporate tax cuts would help and benefit Workers, and corporations would use that money to invest in American workers. They didn't, they used that money to buy back stocks.

He promised to revive the coal industry. Never happened: more coal jobs were lost during his presidency.

And this time around he promised to lower inflation, and he promised to avoid overseas adventures, and yet inflation is on the rise, prices are going up dramatically, and so far he's engaged in eight overseas incursions, adventures or wars.

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With all that history, how stupid were Americans to give him a second chance? Was there mass amnesia?

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

With all that history, how stupid were Americans to give him a second chance? Was there mass amnesia?

What puzzles me is, why didn't the Dems just cheat again and throw in the extra 8 million votes at the last minute.......5555

On 3/16/2026 at 4:43 AM, Wingate said:

I think not. +2.8% is Biden's 2024 4th Q GDP growth and +.7% is Trump's 2025 GDP Growth.

The claim: "+2.8% is Biden's 2024 4th Q GDP growth" and "+.7% is Trump's 2025 GDP Growth."

Reality: No, this comparison is apples-to-oranges and incorrect.

Q4 2024 (Biden's last full quarter, Oct–Dec 2024): Real GDP grew at an annualized rate of 2.4% (final third estimate from BEA, March 2025 release; earlier estimates were 2.3%). Not 2.8%.

• The 2.8% figure actually refers to full-year 2024 annual GDP growth (from 2023 level to 2024 level), not specifically Q4.

• For Trump in 2025: There is no single ".7% for 2025 GDP Growth." The 0.7% (or 0.70%) figure matches Q4 2025 (Oct–Dec 2025) quarterly annualized growth (second estimate from BEA, around March 2026). Full-year 2025 annual GDP growth was 2.2% (a slowdown from 2024's 2.8%), with quarterly ups and downs: negative in Q1 2025 (-0.3% to -0.5%), stronger mid-year (e.g., 3.8%–4.4% in Q2/Q3), then slowing to 1.4% advance / 0.7% revised in Q4 2025 (partly due to factors like a government shutdown).

• Math verdict: 0.7% (one weak Trump quarter) is obviously not > 2.4% (Biden's actual Q4 2024). But comparing one quarter under Trump to a full-year or mismatched figure under Biden is invalid cherry-picking. Full-year growth was higher under Biden (2.8%) than Trump's first year (2.2%), but quarterly volatility (including early-2025 contraction tied to policy transitions/tariffs) makes direct "Trump bad" claims oversimplified.

The "math" here is like comparing a sprinter's best 100m time to a marathoner's yearly mileage and declaring victory—technically numbers are numbers, but the framing is rigged. Q4-to-Q4 or full-year apples-to-apples shows Biden's 2024 stronger in both GDP (2.8% annual) and jobs (~2.2M), while Trump's 2025 was weaker across the board (2.2% GDP annual, 181K jobs net). But boiling complex economies down to "Is X > Y?" without context (policy lags, revisions, one-off events like shutdowns) is classic forum gotcha, not serious analysis with some marginal factual basis—but your "selective math" seems designed to trigger rather than inform. Numbers don't lie; selective ones do.

https://www.bea.gov/news/2025/gross-domestic-product-4th-quarter-and-year-2024-third-estimate-gdp-industry-and

https://apnews.com/article/us-economy-gdp-growth-trump-tariff-9c6686a658241dbad8ebdeff632ff0ac

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth

https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker/economy

https://www.longvieweconomics.com/news-and-media/press-coverage/818k-less-jobs-were-created-by-biden-admin.-calling-for-concerns-about-the-economy

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10 hours ago, Fact said:

All presidents talk up the economy. Stop being disingenuous. BTW, the Fed Chairman said the economy is amazing. Is he lying?

https://fortune.com/2026/03/19/jerome-powell-economy-is-amazing-iran-war-inflation-jobs-data-oil-shocks/

No other President repeatedly claimed "best ever", especially when even before Covid, Trump had the worst performing economy (as measured by GDP change) since Herbert Hoover. See the chart I posted earlier, sourced from the Dept of Commerce's BEA.

To use your moniker, it is a fact that GDP in Q4 '24 was +2.8%, while in Q4 2025 it was .7%. That's hardly a gangbuster economy, even by Fed standards. Besides, note the core inflation number released the other day. It's considerably higher than what Biden left Trump. Oh, and it's also a FACT that job growth in 2024 was 2.23 million, while in all of 2025, it was only 181K. Again, hardly gangbusters under Trump. On top of that, the Labor Participation Rate dropped, meaning discouraged job seekers took themselves out of the worker pool.

For some reason, too, Biden gets no quarter for having inherited Covid and what that did to inflation, while Trump is immune from criticism, at least in MAGAstan. Also, while theoretically the House approves spending, Trump enacted many policies by EO, on top of the Repub tax cut of his first 2 years.

Trump is about as good handling the economy as he is handling businesses where people line up to give you their money, despite the odds being in the house's favor.

37 minutes ago, boganJoe said:

The claim: "+2.8% is Biden's 2024 4th Q GDP growth" and "+.7% is Trump's 2025 GDP Growth."

Reality: No, this comparison is apples-to-oranges and incorrect.

Q4 2024 (Biden's last full quarter, Oct–Dec 2024): Real GDP grew at an annualized rate of 2.4% (final third estimate from BEA, March 2025 release; earlier estimates were 2.3%). Not 2.8%.

• The 2.8% figure actually refers to full-year 2024 annual GDP growth (from 2023 level to 2024 level), not specifically Q4.

• For Trump in 2025: There is no single ".7% for 2025 GDP Growth." The 0.7% (or 0.70%) figure matches Q4 2025 (Oct–Dec 2025) quarterly annualized growth (second estimate from BEA, around March 2026). Full-year 2025 annual GDP growth was 2.2% (a slowdown from 2024's 2.8%), with quarterly ups and downs: negative in Q1 2025 (-0.3% to -0.5%), stronger mid-year (e.g., 3.8%–4.4% in Q2/Q3), then slowing to 1.4% advance / 0.7% revised in Q4 2025 (partly due to factors like a government shutdown).

• Math verdict: 0.7% (one weak Trump quarter) is obviously not > 2.4% (Biden's actual Q4 2024). But comparing one quarter under Trump to a full-year or mismatched figure under Biden is invalid cherry-picking. Full-year growth was higher under Biden (2.8%) than Trump's first year (2.2%), but quarterly volatility (including early-2025 contraction tied to policy transitions/tariffs) makes direct "Trump bad" claims oversimplified.

The "math" here is like comparing a sprinter's best 100m time to a marathoner's yearly mileage and declaring victory—technically numbers are numbers, but the framing is rigged. Q4-to-Q4 or full-year apples-to-apples shows Biden's 2024 stronger in both GDP (2.8% annual) and jobs (~2.2M), while Trump's 2025 was weaker across the board (2.2% GDP annual, 181K jobs net). But boiling complex economies down to "Is X > Y?" without context (policy lags, revisions, one-off events like shutdowns) is classic forum gotcha, not serious analysis with some marginal factual basis—but your "selective math" seems designed to trigger rather than inform. Numbers don't lie; selective ones do.

https://www.bea.gov/news/2025/gross-domestic-product-4th-quarter-and-year-2024-third-estimate-gdp-industry-and

https://apnews.com/article/us-economy-gdp-growth-trump-tariff-9c6686a658241dbad8ebdeff632ff0ac

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth

https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker/economy

https://www.longvieweconomics.com/news-and-media/press-coverage/818k-less-jobs-were-created-by-biden-admin.-calling-for-concerns-about-the-economy

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So what your long post is saying is that Biden was better than Trump for the economy.

And who ever said you can't teach a MAGA new tricks!

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

In the Fog of Don people seem to forget all the travesties of his toxic and corrupt past, and the massive amounts of destruction he has left in his wake.

17 of his businesses have failed in the past few  decades. Some at huge losses. Trump Steaks, Trump Shuttle Airline ($120 million in losses between 1988 and 1990), GoTrump, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump University, Trump Ice, The New Jersey Generals, Tour de Trump, Trump Network, Trump Magazine, Trumped!. Many businesses that licensed his name went bankrupt, or went out of business. 

And he had between four and six major bankruptcies (depending on the source), including the Trump Taj Mahal (which he spent $1.2 billion building, and was $3 billion in debt within a year of opening), Trump's Castle, Trump Place Hotel (which was very successful prior to Trump buying it in 1988, and he managed to put it into $550 million in debt by 1992!), Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts ($1.8 billion in debt by 2004, bankrupt in 2009) , and Trump Entertainment Resorts.

There are likely others. And this does not take into account the 3,600 lawsuits he was involved in as of the time he took office, the vast majority of which were filed by small contractors against his companies for non payment, or total default. Many of these contractors were crushed. It is part of his M.O. 

Promises made but never kept:

Every voter needs to be reminded of Trump's promises last time he was running:

There is very little that comes out of Donald's mouth that is the truth.....

He promised to cut the deficit. He added $8T.

He promised to build a wall. He only did 458 miles out of 2,000. Most of it was repair or replacement, not new.

He promised to make Mexico pay. They didn't. We did.

He promised to unveil a new healthcare plan. It didn't exist.

He promised a middle-class tax cut. He cut taxes for the rich. The middle class is paying for it.

He said he wouldn't play golf as President. He made 250 visits (way more than Obama) to his own golf clubs. It cost taxpayers $150 million.

He said he'd increase economic growth by 4%. Nope. Biden did.

He promised an infrastructure plan. He had none. President Biden signed a massive one.

He promised to hire "the best people." He fired 3/4 of them and then said they were the worst ever, and they said HE was in fact the worst ever.

He promised to bring down the price of prescription drugs. He didn't: Biden did.

He promised a Hillary lock-up. Nope

Promised we'd win the trade war with China. Nope, It cost about 250,000 jobs and hurt Americans, not help them.

He promised his corporate tax cuts would help and benefit Workers, and corporations would use that money to invest in American workers. They didn't, they used that money to buy back stocks.

He promised to revive the coal industry. Never happened: more coal jobs were lost during his presidency.

And this time around he promised to lower inflation, and he promised to avoid overseas adventures, and yet inflation is on the rise, prices are going up dramatically, and so far he's engaged in eight overseas incursions, adventures or wars.

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Great post and it should be repeated on a regular basis so that it might sink in to even a few MAGAs on here.

19 minutes ago, Wingate said:

So what your long post is saying is that Biden was better than Trump for the economy.

And who ever said you can't teach a MAGA new tricks!

Nah, what the long post actually said was: Stop with the dishonest apples-to-oranges BS. Biden's 2024 had a juiced-up post-COVID recovery with trillions in stimulus still sloshing around, full-year GDP at 2.8%, and ~2.2M jobs added—while Trump's 2025 dealt with transition chaos, tariff realignments, federal workforce trims, Iran war oil shocks, a shutdown, and inherited momentum drags, landing at 2.2% full-year GDP and a measly 181K net jobs (with a -92K loss in Feb '26). The post called out selective quarterly dunks as weak sauce, not a Biden victory lap. But reading comprehension's tough when you're busy high-fiving yourself in the mirror.

And this comical classic: "And who ever said you can't teach a MAGA new tricks!" Classic. If "new tricks" means finally admitting your hero's economy was a sugar-high mirage built on debt and handouts that exploded inflation—while Trump's pre-COVID beast was real (lowest unemployment in decades across demographics, energy dominance, secure border and immigration controls restored, massive influx of foreign investments)—then yeah, some of us learned the trick of not falling for media spin 2.0.

MAGA didn't need "teaching"—we just needed voters to see the receipts in 2024 and send Trump back with a mandate.

You? Still stuck on forum gotchas, reducing nuanced breakdowns to "Biden better lol" while ignoring context like policy lags, revisions, and the fact that presidents don't wave a wand and instantly fix (or break) economies overnight. That's not wisdom; that's <removed> on vacation—same tired playbook, different timezone.

Pro tip, Wingate: If your big mic-drop relies on straw-manning a detailed post into a one-sentence surrender, maybe the only one getting "taught" here is how to spot projection. Keep enjoying the beach views and thread-stalking; the rest of us are too busy watching the mandate play out.

Maybe time for you to re-calibrate, incorporating higher levels of coping and crying.

15 minutes ago, boganJoe said:

Nah, what the long post actually said was: Stop with the dishonest apples-to-oranges BS. Biden's 2024 had a juiced-up post-COVID recovery with trillions in stimulus still sloshing around, full-year GDP at 2.8%, and ~2.2M jobs added—while Trump's 2025 dealt with transition chaos, tariff realignments, federal workforce trims, Iran war oil shocks, a shutdown, and inherited momentum drags, landing at 2.2% full-year GDP and a measly 181K net jobs (with a -92K loss in Feb '26). The post called out selective quarterly dunks as weak sauce, not a Biden victory lap. But reading comprehension's tough when you're busy high-fiving yourself in the mirror.

And this comical classic: "And who ever said you can't teach a MAGA new tricks!" Classic. If "new tricks" means finally admitting your hero's economy was a sugar-high mirage built on debt and handouts that exploded inflation—while Trump's pre-COVID beast was real (lowest unemployment in decades across demographics, energy dominance, secure border and immigration controls restored, massive influx of foreign investments)—then yeah, some of us learned the trick of not falling for media spin 2.0.

MAGA didn't need "teaching"—we just needed voters to see the receipts in 2024 and send Trump back with a mandate.

You? Still stuck on forum gotchas, reducing nuanced breakdowns to "Biden better lol" while ignoring context like policy lags, revisions, and the fact that presidents don't wave a wand and instantly fix (or break) economies overnight. That's not wisdom; that's <removed> on vacation—same tired playbook, different timezone.

Pro tip, Wingate: If your big mic-drop relies on straw-manning a detailed post into a one-sentence surrender, maybe the only one getting "taught" here is how to spot projection. Keep enjoying the beach views and thread-stalking; the rest of us are too busy watching the mandate play out.

Maybe time for you to re-calibrate, incorporating higher levels of coping and crying.

Lol! Trump 1.0 surfed on Obama's good economic trends! 😂

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

17 of his businesses have failed in the past few  decades.

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

And he had between four and six major bankruptcies (depending on the source),

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

And this does not take into account the 3,600 lawsuits he was involved in

"17 businesses failed"? Oh, ok, so name me a billionaire real estate mogul who hasn't had flops—especially in casinos during Atlantic City's collapse. Trump restructured debt like every major developer does, hint: (Chapter 11 is a tool, not failure). Six corporate bankruptcies? All casinos, tiny slice of his empire, and he walked away richer while banks took haircuts. Meanwhile, he built a brand worth billions, reality TV empire, and turned a $1B inheritance into... well, whatever Forbes says this week, $8-10B. But sure, focus on Trump Vodka and ignore the hotels, golf courses, and licensing deals that printed money.The lawsuits? Big real estate = big legal fights. Contractors get stiffed sometimes—happens to everyone from developers to Hollywood studios. "Crushed"? Dramatic much? Most settled; it's business, not personal vendetta.

Your rant is peak expat-forum cope: dredging up 30-year-old casino drama while ignoring pre-COVID boom (record lows for unemployment across races, energy independence, Abraham Accords), the 2024 landslide, and the fact that voters said "promises kept" louder than your list of broken ones. spidermike007, if this is your mic-drop, the mic just rolled under the table. Trump's not perfect—nobody is—but he's the guy who keeps winning while you're still typing therapy essays in Thailand. Touch grass, or better yet, touch some winning stocks from that "failed businessman." Cope harder, maestro—your tune's been on repeat since 2015. 😏

1 minute ago, boganJoe said:

"17 businesses failed"? Oh, ok, so name me a billionaire real estate mogul who hasn't had flops—especially in casinos during Atlantic City's collapse. Trump restructured debt like every major developer does, hint: (Chapter 11 is a tool, not failure). Six corporate bankruptcies? All casinos, tiny slice of his empire, and he walked away richer while banks took haircuts. Meanwhile, he built a brand worth billions, reality TV empire, and turned a $1B inheritance into... well, whatever Forbes says this week, $8-10B. But sure, focus on Trump Vodka and ignore the hotels, golf courses, and licensing deals that printed money.The lawsuits? Big real estate = big legal fights. Contractors get stiffed sometimes—happens to everyone from developers to Hollywood studios. "Crushed"? Dramatic much? Most settled; it's business, not personal vendetta.

This rant is peak expat-forum cope: dredging up 30-year-old casino drama while ignoring pre-COVID boom (record lows for unemployment across races, energy independence, Abraham Accords), the 2024 landslide, and the fact that voters said "promises kept" louder than your list of broken ones. Xylophone, if this is your mic-drop, the mic just rolled under the table. Trump's not perfect—nobody is—but he's the guy who keeps winning while you're still typing therapy essays in Thailand. Touch grass, or better yet, touch some winning stocks from that "failed businessman." Cope harder, maestro—your tune's been on repeat since 2015. 😏

Meanwhile, in the real world........

https://x.com/maddenifico/status/2034663146275655802?s=20

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3 hours ago, Lacessit said:

With all that history, how stupid were Americans to give him a second chance? Was there mass amnesia?

That's what I keep on getting asked by people around the world, when I tell them I'm American. You saw who he was during his first term so why on earth would you guys reelect him? And now during his second term the man is so full of himself he's become infinitely more destructive and dangerous.

Trump is an absolute pig.

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5 minutes ago, boganJoe said:

"17 businesses failed"? Oh, ok, so name me a billionaire real estate mogul who hasn't had flops—especially in casinos during Atlantic City's collapse. Trump restructured debt like every major developer does, hint: (Chapter 11 is a tool, not failure). Six corporate bankruptcies? All casinos, tiny slice of his empire, and he walked away richer while banks took haircuts. Meanwhile, he built a brand worth billions, reality TV empire, and turned a $1B inheritance into... well, whatever Forbes says this week, $8-10B. But sure, focus on Trump Vodka and ignore the hotels, golf courses, and licensing deals that printed money.The lawsuits? Big real estate = big legal fights. Contractors get stiffed sometimes—happens to everyone from developers to Hollywood studios. "Crushed"? Dramatic much? Most settled; it's business, not personal vendetta.

Your rant is peak expat-forum cope: dredging up 30-year-old casino drama while ignoring pre-COVID boom (record lows for unemployment across races, energy independence, Abraham Accords), the 2024 landslide, and the fact that voters said "promises kept" louder than your list of broken ones. spidermike007, if this is your mic-drop, the mic just rolled under the table. Trump's not perfect—nobody is—but he's the guy who keeps winning while you're still typing therapy essays in Thailand. Touch grass, or better yet, touch some winning stocks from that "failed businessman." Cope harder, maestro—your tune's been on repeat since 2015. 😏

Next time try a little bit of originality, that's the exact same excuse so many of his supporters have been giving the man for decades now. If it weren't for his grifting, his cons, his fraud, and his corruption he would likely be poorer than the average homeless person.

12 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

he would likely be poorer than the average homeless person

Oh wow, spidermike007 dropping the classic "Trump would be sleeping under a **bridge without his cons" line—truly groundbreaking stuff. We've only heard that exact take since approximately 1988, but please, tell us more about how originality died the day you hit "post."

Meanwhile, in March 2026, as in today reality:

• Forbes just pegged Trump's net worth at $6.5 billion (up $1.4 billion in the last year alone during his second term).

• That's billionaire territory—645th richest person on Earth, to be exact.

• The jump comes mostly from crypto plays (World Liberty Financial tokens, stablecoins, etc.), Trump Media stock swings, and a certain New York fraud judgment getting tossed out (freeing up hundreds of millions).

So yeah, the guy you insist would be rummaging through dumpsters for change is somehow pulling in nine-figure crypto windfalls while sitting in the Oval Office. If that's what "grifting and corruption" looks like, sign me up for the tutorial—because apparently it's printing money faster than the Fed these days.

Your line would hit harder if the "average homeless person" had a private jet, multiple golf courses, and a personal stablecoin empire. But hey, keep recycling that 2016-era burn; it's about as fresh as Trump's first-term tax returns. Next time try a little originality yourself—maybe Google "current net worth" before declaring someone destitute.

(For the record, the comment you linked is replying to someone mocking Trump's casino bankruptcies, and your guy's full post lists a laundry list of failures/promises not kept—which is fair game for critique—but the "poorer than homeless" jab aged like milk in the Thai heat when the billionaire rankings dropped last week.)

https://www.instagram.com/p/DVtehpbgWvt

**Which bridge has $6.5 billion sleeping under it these days?" 😭

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Next time try a little bit of originality, that's the exact same excuse so many of his supporters have been giving the man for decades now. If it weren't for his grifting, his cons, his fraud, and his corruption he would likely be poorer than the average homeless person.

Indeed and the MAGAnisters don't want to focus or believe that he is a prime conman and has raked in $billions from shonky deals, scams and crooked crypto deals, much of the time with help from Witkoff and Kushner......the orange clown is a disgrace, but at least he won't be able to spend it when he is stoking fires underground which won't be long by the way he is going!

43 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Indeed and the MAGAnisters don't want to focus or believe that he is a prime conman and has raked in $billions from shonky deals, scams and crooked crypto deals, much of the time with help from Witkoff and Kushner......the orange clown is a disgrace, but at least he won't be able to spend it when he is stoking fires underground which won't be long by the way he is going!

Oh wow, xylophone (& spidermike007 pulling double duty in the thread) serving up another steaming plate of premium <removed> fever-dream: "the orange clown is a disgrace, but at least he won't be able to spend it when he is stoking fires underground which won't be long by the way he is going!"

First, let's appreciate the artistry here. Calling Trump a "prime conman" raking in billions from "shonky deals, scams and crooked crypto deals" with Witkoff and Kushner help—then pivoting straight to eternal damnation via underground fire-stoking. That's not just a rant; that's a full apocalyptic fanfic pitch. You got one foot in a conspiracy subreddit and the other in a medieval morality play. Peak forum energy.

But hey, if we're talking "crooked crypto deals" and "billions"... let's check the scoreboard in March 2026 reality:

• Forbes' latest (March 10, 2026): Trump’s net worth clocks in at $6.5 billion—up a casual $1.4 billion in the last year alone during his second term. Ranked 645th richest human out of 3,428 billionaires. Up from 700th. Progress!

• Big driver? World Liberty Financial—the family crypto venture tied to sons, Zach Witkoff (Steve's kid), and yes, Kushner-adjacent circles via Mideast deals. Token sales, stablecoins (USD1), staking perks, UAE-linked investments... netted hundreds of millions to billions in proceeds/paper gains for the fam (e.g., ~$550M from token sales cited, family cuts of 75% on proceeds, holdings worth billions at peaks). "Shonky"? Maybe ethically spicy to critics, but it's printing money faster than the Fed's printer goes brrr.

• Steve Witkoff? Trump's Mideast envoy buddy, whose son Zach co-runs WLFI. Kushner? Family ties, peace-deal alumni, overlapping networks in UAE/Abu Dhabi funds that funneled cash into the project. It's all out there—conflicts-of-interest probes, Senate Dem letters, WSJ deep dives—but the cash is real, and Trump's wallet is laughing all the way to... well, not underground.

So xylophone's painting this portrait of a broke-ass conman headed for hellfire any day now, while the "orange clown" is literally getting richer by billions off the very "crooked crypto" you're raging about. If that's the con... it's the most successful one in presidential history. Teach the masterclass, Don—because apparently "scams" = yacht money, private-jet upgrades, and Mar-a-Lago tripling to $560M valuation.

The "stoking fires underground" bit? Adorable doomsaying. Trump's been declared "done for" since 2015—bankruptcies, impeachments, indictments, assassinations, elections—and here he is, back in the Oval, net worth exploding, crypto empire humming. If hell's recruiting, they might want to wait; the guy's too busy cashing checks to RSVP.

Your rant's got passion, I'll give it that—but it's running on 2018 fumes while the target is lapping the track in 2026. Next time, maybe update the script before hitting "post." The only thing getting torched here is your simpleton take.

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1 hour ago, boganJoe said:

Oh wow, spidermike007 dropping the classic "Trump would be sleeping under a **bridge without his cons" line—truly groundbreaking stuff. We've only heard that exact take since approximately 1988, but please, tell us more about how originality died the day you hit "post."

Meanwhile, in March 2026, as in today reality:

• Forbes just pegged Trump's net worth at $6.5 billion (up $1.4 billion in the last year alone during his second term).

• That's billionaire territory—645th richest person on Earth, to be exact.

• The jump comes mostly from crypto plays (World Liberty Financial tokens, stablecoins, etc.), Trump Media stock swings, and a certain New York fraud judgment getting tossed out (freeing up hundreds of millions).

So yeah, the guy you insist would be rummaging through dumpsters for change is somehow pulling in nine-figure crypto windfalls while sitting in the Oval Office. If that's what "grifting and corruption" looks like, sign me up for the tutorial—because apparently it's printing money faster than the Fed these days.

Your line would hit harder if the "average homeless person" had a private jet, multiple golf courses, and a personal stablecoin empire. But hey, keep recycling that 2016-era burn; it's about as fresh as Trump's first-term tax returns. Next time try a little originality yourself—maybe Google "current net worth" before declaring someone destitute.

(For the record, the comment you linked is replying to someone mocking Trump's casino bankruptcies, and your guy's full post lists a laundry list of failures/promises not kept—which is fair game for critique—but the "poorer than homeless" jab aged like milk in the Thai heat when the billionaire rankings dropped last week.)

**Which bridge has $6.5 billion sleeping under it these days?" 😭

The con artist and traitor can make money as the most corrupt president in history. And that is something to brag about??

Seriously, you MAGA people.....cheesy

8 minutes ago, boganJoe said:

Oh wow, xylophone (& spidermike007 pulling double duty in the thread) serving up another steaming plate of premium <removed> fever-dream: "the orange clown is a disgrace, but at least he won't be able to spend it when he is stoking fires underground which won't be long by the way he is going!"

First, let's appreciate the artistry here. Calling Trump a "prime conman" raking in billions from "shonky deals, scams and crooked crypto deals" with Witkoff and Kushner help—then pivoting straight to eternal damnation via underground fire-stoking. That's not just a rant; that's a full apocalyptic fanfic pitch. You got one foot in a conspiracy subreddit and the other in a medieval morality play. Peak forum energy.

But hey, if we're talking "crooked crypto deals" and "billions"... let's check the scoreboard in March 2026 reality:

• Forbes' latest (March 10, 2026): Trump’s net worth clocks in at $6.5 billion—up a casual $1.4 billion in the last year alone during his second term. Ranked 645th richest human out of 3,428 billionaires. Up from 700th. Progress!

• Big driver? World Liberty Financial—the family crypto venture tied to sons, Zach Witkoff (Steve's kid), and yes, Kushner-adjacent circles via Mideast deals. Token sales, stablecoins (USD1), staking perks, UAE-linked investments... netted hundreds of millions to billions in proceeds/paper gains for the fam (e.g., ~$550M from token sales cited, family cuts of 75% on proceeds, holdings worth billions at peaks). "Shonky"? Maybe ethically spicy to critics, but it's printing money faster than the Fed's printer goes brrr.

• Steve Witkoff? Trump's Mideast envoy buddy, whose son Zach co-runs WLFI. Kushner? Family ties, peace-deal alumni, overlapping networks in UAE/Abu Dhabi funds that funneled cash into the project. It's all out there—conflicts-of-interest probes, Senate Dem letters, WSJ deep dives—but the cash is real, and Trump's wallet is laughing all the way to... well, not underground.

So xylophone's painting this portrait of a broke-ass conman headed for hellfire any day now, while the "orange clown" is literally getting richer by billions off the very "crooked crypto" you're raging about. If that's the con... it's the most successful one in presidential history. Teach the masterclass, Don—because apparently "scams" = yacht money, private-jet upgrades, and Mar-a-Lago tripling to $560M valuation.

The "stoking fires underground" bit? Adorable doomsaying. Trump's been declared "done for" since 2015—bankruptcies, impeachments, indictments, assassinations, elections—and here he is, back in the Oval, net worth exploding, crypto empire humming. If hell's recruiting, they might want to wait; the guy's too busy cashing checks to RSVP.

Your rant's got passion, I'll give it that—but it's running on 2018 fumes while the target is lapping the track in 2026. Next time, maybe update the script before hitting "post." The only thing getting torched here is your simpleton take.

MAGA: "Thank you Sir, may I have another?"🤣

2 hours ago, boganJoe said:

he walked away richer while banks took haircuts. Meanwhile, he built a brand worth billions, reality TV empire, and turned a $1B inheritance into

So you are supporting the rich ripping of the banks in order to make him richer?

2 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

So you are supporting the rich ripping of the banks in order to make him richer?

Well, bogans will do what bogans always do and have done since time immemorial!! Both trump and the poster fit this mould!

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