For a long time already I suffer from sleeping disorders, as in I wake up many times a night, and actually never have a solid sleep.

I have tried natural sleeping aids like 12mg Melatonin, but they don't have any effect.

Sleeping tablets like Diazepam work perfect, and I sleep until the alarm goes off, as intended. I have no side effects from them.

I had 8 tablets of them left, which actually were expired for 15 YEARS already, and I have taken them with good results in the last 6 months.

So now I have the option to buy some similar stuff OTC at probably 500 baht a strip of 10, or go in the queue for several hours at the local hospital, in the hope I get them subscribed.

So the question is if the price difference between prescription drugs OTC and subscription based is worth to waste all morning at a hospital.

Anyone here who get them from the government hospital and can share the price? I'm talking about Diazepam or whatever they are called these days.

Or can someone suggest a legit OTC drug that is more or less guaranteed to work? Melatonin doesn't work at all.

2mg Clonazepam are 350 for 10 in a blister pack at clinics who will sell them to you.

Prices have risen quite a bit since selling them requires prescription normally.

Generic valium blue 10mg are much less but very dubious.

1 minute ago, PhilipHabib said:

2mg Clonazepam are 350 for 10 in a blister pack at clinics who will sell them to you.

Prices have risen quite a bit since selling them requires prescription normally.

Generic valium blue 10mg are much less but very dubious.

I'm aware of the price of those, but this was the actual question.

13 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

So the question is if the price difference between prescription drugs OTC and subscription based is worth to waste all morning at a hospital.

Anyone here who get them from the government hospital and can share the price? I'm talking about Diazepam or whatever they are called these days.

Or can someone suggest a legit OTC drug that is more or less guaranteed to work?

Magnesium supplement has made a huge difference in my sleep cycle. Before supplementing, I'd wake up 2X, at least, for a P, or for no reason, within a 6 hr or less time period.

Now, 400mg daily (3X 133mg ~8hr apart), and I get 6 - 8 hrs of peaceful sleep. I take the Citrate version (NOW foods), which also helped eliminate constipation, and do not have any diarrhea issues, as common side effect for some.

Diazapam is cheap if you can get a Thai hospital or government clinic to give it to you. Private hospital will jack the price up.

Hydroxyzine 25mg works as well. Ditto on Magnesium.

Reference to Magnesium. ~400mg is RDA

... "AI Overview

The Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) for magnesium is400–420 mg daily for adult men (31+ years)" ...

Hydroxyzine 25mg : awful causes dry mouth and frequent urination

Magnesium : do you enjoy loose bowels

I have now called 3 different government hospitals. Most of the extension number don't work, so they disconnect right away, others never get answered, and this that answer hang up without saying a word as soon as you speak English.

Thailand the medical hub of the world. NOT

1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

Reference to Magnesium. ~400mg is RDA

... "AI Overview

The Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) for magnesium is400–420 mg daily for adult men (31+ years)" ...

I have been taken Magnesium supplement for 6 months, take multi vitamin which has magnesium included at the same time. No effect

Just now, CallumWK said:

I have been taken Magnesium supplement for 6 months, take multi vitamin which has magnesium included at the same time. No effect

What the total mg count, and is it spaced out during the day, or taken all at once ?

Also what brand, and if tested by 3rd party to ensure proper labeling. I only buy NOW food supplements, and only from iHerb, as simply too many fakes and or, don't supply the mg on the label.

My Multi Vic only has 75mg / 19% RDA.

4 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

What the total mg count, and is it spaced out during the day, or taken all at once ?

Also what brand, and if tested by 3rd party to ensure proper labeling. I only buy NOW food supplements, and only from iHerb, as simple too many fakes and or, don't supply the mg on the label.

Forgot he brand since they are now finished, but ordered them from Iherb, and took them as directed on the label

12 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

I have now called 3 different government hospitals. Most of the extension number don't work, so they disconnect right away, others never get answered, and this that answer hang up without saying a word as soon as you speak English.

Thailand the medical hub of the world. NOT

Well they speak Thai in Thailand.

Maybe you need to pay for a private hospital if you want to be catered to?

Side note most hospitals and Doctors are very reluctant to prescribe benzos.

5 minutes ago, PhilipHabib said:

Well they speak Thai in Thailand.

I would have thought that in a major tourist destination they would have some people who understand English, at least they have an option, for English please press 9.

Look into this COMBINATION before bed --

Magnesium Glycinate

It's very important to choose the right kind of magnesium and a brand that is all magnesium and not full of fillers.

Experiment with dose. Powder that is 100 percent is available. Dissolve in hot water.

L-Theonate (NOT L- Threonate).

Apigenin (or alternatively drink hot chamomille tea)

OP has tried to cut coffee after noon ? cut organges, tea or booze after a certain time ?

I know that if I eat to many onions in my dinner dish, it does keep me from falling asleep.

But of course, we are all different etc etc...

Just now, SingAPorn said:

OP has tried to cut coffee after noon ? cut organges, tea or booze after a certain time ?

I know that if I eat to many onions in my dinner dish, it does keep me from falling asleep.

But of course, we are all different etc etc...

Only drink coffee at breakfast.

I have no problem falling asleep, but wake up after a few hours, on and off.

I go out once or twice a week, and when I have consumed alcohol I have a sound sleep.