Not talking about the obvious stuff that brings most of us here initially. I mean the longer term decision to actually settle down with a Thai woman specifically.

Looking back I think the relationship dynamic played a bigger part in my choice than I ever admitted at the time. The roles are just... clear. He provides, she takes care of the home and family. No blurred lines, no competition for the same space, no ongoing negotiation about who does what and why or whose in charge!

That model largely disappeared in the West over the past few decades. Again — not saying that's wrong, times change. But somewhere along the way relationships back home started feeling like a constant push and pull, both people sometimes fighting for the lead role, and a lot of the warmth getting lost in the friction.

With my Thai partner that friction is just absent. There's a calm to it. She's reserved in public as Thai culture generally is, but within the relationship she's attentive and warm without it feeling like something that has to be earned or negotiated.

So honestly — for those of you settled with Thai women long term — how much did that traditional dynamic factor into it? Was it a conscious choice or did you only recognise it later for what it was?

Nope......purely the "obvious stuff".

Be honest, was it the traditional values that drew you to a Thai woman

Yep. Western woman with tats and nose rings and blue hair can stay in the West for all I care. I've no use for them.
I prefer traditional, Buddhist, family values.

5 hours ago, Conan The Barbarian said:

So honestly — for those of you settled with Thai women long term — how much did that traditional dynamic factor into it? Was it a conscious choice or did you only recognise it later for what it was?

Hot frequent sex with much younger women at minimal cost was what kept me here.

I think I only recognized it later.

IME Thai women are more subtle. Instead of the confrontation/negotiation model of the West, they gently steer you to what they want, with emphasis on harmony.

No, as I find people are the same everywhere. Plenty of 'traditional value' folks back in the USA, that I left behind. Though depends on who's tradition you are referring to.

Nothing different about TH & USA, except P4P is on display, if wanting, in TH. Rest is basically the same in every country I've been to. Most people simply live comfy; work, eat & enjoy themselves.

Only difference that affects me, I'm a THB millionaire here, so makes retirement, stress free.

Yes, couple of decades ago it was nice, especially out of Bangkok.

But now, its sickening to find at every nook and corner high nosed foreigners aggressively flaunting their $$$ power as if they were of some superior class.

The problem is not with the Thai lady. Problems start with her family, the 2 useless lazy brothers hidden somewhere who show up or the in-laws expecting the falang to finance their retirement comfort. That's where the trouble always starts.

You also have the look of society. Maybe not in villages or remote areas but in popular cities or towns like Bangkok, Hua Hin Phuket etc...people seeing a thai lady with a foreigner will usually assume the lady is on a rent-per-week basis. That's sad to think such but many (mostly foreigners) will think as such.

The description of "submissive" females is specific to the lower socio economic class of people everywhere. It is why many abused women remain with their abusers in the west, why morbidly obese and/or unattractive people hook up with partners who have no redeeming characteristics etc.: They are so unappealing, that this is the best that they can do. No woman of independent means and of sound emotional state is going to sign on as the live in attendant for a mediocre, unattractive, male with few if any positive features. Even sexual attributes loses their allure after a year or two of living with a deadbeat loser.

8 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

The description of "submissive" females is specific to the lower socio economic class of people everywhere. It is why many abused women remain with their abusers in the west, why morbidly obese and/or unattractive people hook up with partners who have no redeeming characteristics etc.: They are so unappealing, that this is the best that they can do. No woman of independent means and of sound emotional state is going to sign on as the live in attendant for a mediocre, unattractive, male with few if any positive features. Even sexual attributes loses their allure after a year or two of living with a deadbeat loser.

Never met a submissive Thai lady, my wife would stab me without a second thought, if I was out of order.

My last two Thai LTRs, one ran her American husband down with her car, then had him removed from Thailand for overstay while he was still on crutches. The other had her Swedish husband run down and killed by a taxi driver.

What's wrong with a women who likes to cook, clean, do laundry and enjoys sex? Many are still out there especially in Thailand.

People seem to think this is a bad thing.

Probably because they have been so beaten down and tainted by western females in every aspect they have lost touch. Might as well chop your nuts off. Sad and weak in my opinion.