So it turns out that according to ATF the bullet that killed Charlie Kirk did not match the rifle touted as the murder weapon. This blows the case wide open, and those who thought something was off were right.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15692625/Tyler-Robinson-bullet-rifle-match-Charlie-Kirk.html

"The bullet that killed conservative commentator Charlie Kirk may not match the rifle used by suspected killer Tyler Robinson, a bombshell new court filing states.

Robinson, 22, is facing capital murder charges and a potential death sentence for Kirk's murder at Utah Valley University on September 10.

But his defense attorneys now argue that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives 'was unable to identify the bullet recovered at autopsy to the rifle allegedly tied to Mr Robinson.'"

And in a stunning case of total coincidence the sheriff who arrested Tyler Robinson (alleged killer) resigns at the same time this news break.

'Washington County sheriff abruptly resigns'

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2026/03/30/washington-county-sheriff-nate/

You have read the ATF report I assume

It didn't make sense from the beginning. As supposedly shot with 30-06, but no exit wound. That's highly unlikely, especially where struck, his neck.

Sorry, that doesn't fly at all.

5 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

As supposedly shot with 30-06, but no exit wound

He had a superman neck..yes far too many things not making any sense about this 'assassination'

Why the suspicions? The man was murdered.

What are you trying to prove? Trump did it?

16 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

It didn't make sense from the beginning. As supposedly shot with 30-06, but no exit wound. That's highly unlikely, especially where struck, his neck.

Sorry, that doesn't fly at all.

How do you know there wasnt an exit wound?

What bullet was used? FMJ, Nosler, Hornady?

Carry on

21 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

It didn't make sense from the beginning. As supposedly shot with 30-06, but no exit wound. That's highly unlikely, especially where struck, his neck.

Sorry, that doesn't fly at all.

Strange comment from a super maga 😆

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6 hours ago, BLMFem said:

So it turns out that according to ATF the bullet that killed Charlie Kirk did not match the rifle touted as the murder weapon. This blows the case wide open, and those who thought something was off were right.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15692625/Tyler-Robinson-bullet-rifle-match-Charlie-Kirk.html

"The bullet that killed conservative commentator Charlie Kirk may not match the rifle used by suspected killer Tyler Robinson, a bombshell new court filing states.

Robinson, 22, is facing capital murder charges and a potential death sentence for Kirk's murder at Utah Valley University on September 10.

But his defense attorneys now argue that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives 'was unable to identify the bullet recovered at autopsy to the rifle allegedly tied to Mr Robinson.'"

What you quoted did not say "did not match". It said "may not match"

21 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

How do you know there wasnt an exit wound?

What bullet was used? FMJ, Nosler, Hornady?

Carry on

Google is your friend ...

... no exit wound - correct

... 30-06, neck wound, doesn't matter what type or who made it, that's going through

30 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Google is your friend ...

... no exit wound - correct

... 30-06, neck wound, doesn't matter what type or who made it, that's going through

https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/frangible-vs-pass-through.338991/

Guess you havent shot many living things.

Got the autopsy report do you?

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/frangible-vs-pass-through.338991/

Guess you havent shot many living things.

Got the autopsy report do you?

"God helps those who help themselves" - Algernon Sydney

3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Google is your friend ...

10 hours ago, BLMFem said:

So it turns out that according to ATF the bullet that killed Charlie Kirk did not match the rifle touted as the murder weapon. This blows the case wide open, and those who thought something was off were right.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15692625/Tyler-Robinson-bullet-rifle-match-Charlie-Kirk.html

"The bullet that killed conservative commentator Charlie Kirk may not match the rifle used by suspected killer Tyler Robinson, a bombshell new court filing states.

Robinson, 22, is facing capital murder charges and a potential death sentence for Kirk's murder at Utah Valley University on September 10.

But his defense attorneys now argue that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives 'was unable to identify the bullet recovered at autopsy to the rifle allegedly tied to Mr Robinson.'"

Nothing of the sort has been stated. You are misleading people again. A filing by the defendant does not "blow a case wide open".

The ATF could not provide a firm certainty between the bullet fragment and the seized rifle. This is neither unusual nor an indication of a conspiracy. The analysis was on a bullet fragment, not a complete bullet. All that the defense counsel has done is to file for an extension of 6 months.

I am a disinterested party to this criminal case, as it has no relevance to my life. I am sorry someone was murdered, but I was not a fan of Charlie Kirk, nor of his political group.

41 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

"God helps those who help themselves" - Algernon Sydney

Translation: I have no idea what I am talking about. I havent read the autopsy report, I kn ow nothing about wound ballistics, I dont even know what ammo was used and I havent read any reports

12 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Nothing of the sort has been stated. You are misleading people again. A filing by the defendant does not "blow a case wide open".

Sure it does if its a Leftist accused. If the shoe was on the other foot, there would be calls for immediate and brutal execution. Hell, they post here their desire to murder Trump supporters for no other reason then being a Trump ssupporter.

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Translation: I have no idea what I am talking about. I havent read the autopsy report, I kn ow nothing about wound ballistics, I dont even know what ammo was used and I havent read any reports

The only person that doesn't have a clue is you. Did you see the vid of shooting ? Front & back ? No exit wound. Rifle recovered, 30-06. That would leave an exit wound.

Did you Google like I suggested ? NO, or you wouldn't be repeating the same silliness.

13 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

The only person that doesn't have a clue is you. Did you see the vid of shooting ? Front & back ? No exit wound. Rifle recovered, 30-06. That would leave an exit wound.

Did you Google like I suggested ? NO, or you wouldn't be repeating the same silliness.

LOL. Got it. So you agree with the Defense here without any more.

How many times you shot a 30-06.

Oh by the way, was this vintage military rifle a 30-06 oringally?

You should go over to a weapons forum and see how you get laughed at

5 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

LOL. Got it. So you agree with the Defense here without any more.

How many times you shot a 30-06.

Oh by the way, was this vintage military rifle a 30-06 oringally?

You should go over to a weapons forum and see how you get laughed at

You are joking right ?

I'm was in the US Army, and back then, M60 was part of training on full auto. That's a fun toy.

I had a FLL, and probably shot every size / caliber of round there is between 22 up to 50 cal. Shot more powerful rounds that 30-06. Literally 1000s of rounds.

I'd take my FN49 - 8mm, or AK over 30-06, close range. Mini 14 for distance.

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

You are joking right ?

I'm was in the US Army, and back then, M60 was part of training on full auto. That's a fun toy.

I had a FLL, and probably shot every size / caliber of round there is between 22 up to 50 cal. Shot more powerful rounds that 30-06. Literally 1000s of rounds.

I'd take my FN49 - 8mm, or AK over 30-06, close range. Mini 14 for distance.

You know an m60 is 7.62x5 not 30-06, right? Why dont you know anything about the penetration capabilities of non magnum cartridges? You are expounding without knowing the ammo manufacturer, bullet type and bullet weight. Were they Grandpas handloads? You know nothing about the rate of twist of the rifle or who made the barrel. You dont even know if the barrel was the right diameter since it was an older ex military rifle. You do know there are all sorts of old military rifles where all they did was turn the barrel back and rechamber for 8mm 06?. You understand we dont know anyhting about that here? Ev er shoot an 06 in one? If it wass rebarreled, was it done in a garage? This was 150 yard shot, who aims for a neck.? Could that have been improperly stabilized ammo, bad barrel, bad handload??.

Case blown open indeed 55555

10 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Google is your friend ...

... no exit wound - correct

... 30-06, neck wound, doesn't matter what type or who made it, that's going through

Most of the time you shoot an animal in the neck with a 30-06, the bullet will pass through. Some times it will strike bone and stop, along with if it's a hollow point, which will expand and might not exit, also depending on the load used and distance and angle of the shot.

A FMJ would likely exit, especially from that range.

A 110 grain varmint round likely would fragment and not exit.

A .224 cartridge can also be used in a 30-06 using a sabot, although the twist rate isn't ideal for that smaller cartridge at longer ranges, which this wasn't. It IS a way of not having the cartridge match the rifle used.

This is all besides the point that that rifle likely wasn't used and Kirk was shot from another rifle or from behind.

Matching the bullet to the rifle is proof, but matching that fragment left isn't as easy.

I have shot many deer, some in the neck but mostly choose a better target like the lungs, but the neck shots with a .243, 30-06 and .270 all exited, using a minimum of a 100 grain soft point bullet in the .243. The 30-06 and .270 in 130 grain all passed through, doing extreme damage upon exit.

If it was Robinson, he likely would aim for the head, and possibly just missed his target, but I think it was altogether something else and not Robinson at all.

If there was no exit wound, doesn't it imply the bullet could be recovered from the body during the autopsy?

Not a gun lover or expert so I am just speculating.

It was clearly the guy on the grassy knoll.

All of the crazies are biting into this one.

7 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Translation: I have no idea what I am talking about. I havent read the autopsy report, I kn ow nothing about wound ballistics, I dont even know what ammo was used and I havent read any reports

No, that range of sentences is totally owned by you. You have qualified for years and years. By the way, thank you for finally admitting.

So what's the conspiracy suggested here (on either side)?

1. The cops changed the slug (in evidence room);

2. Someone else shot him at closer range - further range - different angle?

Seems to me the angle of projectile could not be faked.

One thing is for sure, it must have been a hard pill to swallow for MAGA to hear one of their own was the shooter, angered that his trans partner was among the non-approved members.

6 hours ago, KhunLA said:

The only person that doesn't have a clue is you.

That's not true. From what I read on this forum there are many people who don't have a clue.

Maybe an ICE agent shot him ...another magic bullet ...

regards worgeordie

19 hours ago, BLMFem said:

So it turns out that according to ATF the bullet that killed Charlie Kirk did not match the rifle touted as the murder weapon. This blows the case wide open, and those who thought something was off were right.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15692625/Tyler-Robinson-bullet-rifle-match-Charlie-Kirk.html

"The bullet that killed conservative commentator Charlie Kirk may not match the rifle used by suspected killer Tyler Robinson, a bombshell new court filing states.

Robinson, 22, is facing capital murder charges and a potential death sentence for Kirk's murder at Utah Valley University on September 10.

But his defense attorneys now argue that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives 'was unable to identify the bullet recovered at autopsy to the rifle allegedly tied to Mr Robinson.'"

The ATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives) report, which Tyler Robinson’s defense team cited in a motion to postpone their May hearing, states they were "unable to identify" the bullet fragment to the Mauser rifle found at the scene.

The bullet (a .30-06 caliber) hit Kirk in the neck and traveled through bone and tissue. By the time it was recovered during the autopsy, it was fragmented.

In ballistics, experts look for "striations" (scratches) left by the barrel. If the fragment is too small or damaged, the "signal" is lost. The ATF isn't saying the bullet didn't come from that gun; they are saying they can't prove it did using standard markings.

Because the ATF results were inconclusive, the FBI has taken over the hardware.

They are currently performing a chemical analysis of the lead in the bullet to see if it matches the "batch" of the unfired cartridges found with the rifle.

While the ballistics are "fuzzy," the prosecution is leaning on the "Hard-Wired" evidence: Robinson’s DNA was found on the rifle’s trigger and the fired shell casing.

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Most of the time you shoot an animal in the neck with a 30-06, the bullet will pass through. Some times it will strike bone and stop, along with if it's a hollow point, which will expand and might not exit, also depending on the load used and distance and angle of the shot.

A FMJ would likely exit, especially from that range.

A 110 grain varmint round likely would fragment and not exit.

A .224 cartridge can also be used in a 30-06 using a sabot, although the twist rate isn't ideal for that smaller cartridge at longer ranges, which this wasn't. It IS a way of not having the cartridge match the rifle used.

This is all besides the point that that rifle likely wasn't used and Kirk was shot from another rifle or from behind.

Matching the bullet to the rifle is proof, but matching that fragment left isn't as easy.

I have shot many deer, some in the neck but mostly choose a better target like the lungs, but the neck shots with a .243, 30-06 and .270 all exited, using a minimum of a 100 grain soft point bullet in the .243. The 30-06 and .270 in 130 grain all passed through, doing extreme damage upon exit.

If it was Robinson, he likely would aim for the head, and possibly just missed his target, but I think it was altogether something else and not Robinson at all.

I know all that, but we are talking about a human neck, not a whole lot there to stop a round.