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El Nino - is this the hottest ever ?

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1 minute ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Furthermore, for your edification, you might or might not be interested in this:

Correct!

I am not interested as they do NOT prove your usual ridiculous claims!

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4 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

And watch them melt as you transfer them out to your basement hovel every day!

I wish I had more money, so that I could create an Ice Hotel here in Chiang Mai.

Even you, I would welcome as my guest.

Room temps would be held constant at minus-2-degrees C.

31 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

I wish I had more money, so that I could create an Ice Hotel here in Chiang Mai.

Even you, I would welcome as my guest.

Room temps would be held constant at minus-2-degrees C.

Even for you that is a very stupid post!

Not just Thailand. Super El nino is everywhere. Expect interesting weather everywhere as ocean temps are way up.

I sure hope that Trump guy stops the hurricanes this year too just like he did last year.

live at the sea, and the sea will flatten out swings up and down to ideal temperature all year around, night and day.

not to mention mosqitos dont like sea breeze

10 minutes ago, gargamon said:

Not just Thailand. Super El nino is everywhere. Expect interesting weather everywhere as ocean temps are way up?

I sure hope that Trump guy stops the hurricanes this year too just like he did last year.

Yes, and this is a very interesting aspect of the Global Warming phenomenon....

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If the countries in the ME, such as the UAE, lose the ability to buy oil to cool their buildings, then all foreigners will quickly feel that area, and then....

Those countries will become TOAST....

Their SUPER-HOT season is about to begin, now.

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This year the temperatures really depends where you live.

The North and NE of Thailand have taken the brunt of the hot weather, whilst it's been much cooler down south.
41C today in the NE, 34C Pattaya, 28C Phuket.

Thais have been advised to plant rice crops mid May, rather than the usual mid April due to expected limited rainfall.
Thai farmers are expecting a drought this year.

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Hot in summer, cool in winter. What a surprise.

16 hours ago, superal said:

A fall in temperatures and maybe rain/hail , could be here this weekend.

Heavens I hope so!

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16 hours ago, superal said:

In my 15 years in Isan Thailand this month has to be the hottest ever with in the shade temperatures regularly hitting 42 c along with a strong breeze that doesn't help . Now today I have read that Thailand may suffer from a super El Nino weather starting June to the end of the year . This will cause reduced rainfall, droughts and water and crop shortages in Asia including Thailand and India where the monsoons may not happen . I hope the super El Nino doesn't occur . Its keeping me house bound in an air-con room .

A fall in temperatures and maybe rain/hail , could be here this weekend.

Yeah, this year the "Burning season" too is in full bloom! For much of the N and Isaan, the pollution has ranked among the world leaders. Looking at the NASA satellite fires, Thailand is setting records this year in the 5XXX number of fires, mostly forest but Laos has over 9000 . We keep seeing govt warnings of summer storms but nothing here in CM. With the humidity also up there with the over 40 temperatures, the heat index is in the mid to high 50 degrees Celsius . If this govt doesn't keep the electricity use costs down, then with air purifiers and A/C going regularly, bills will be even higher. I also looked at the Accuweather map shows horrible pollution levels for almost all of South Asia through North Africa so only hope is that his next front coming down from China will push some bad air away and drop some much needed water on us. Best of luck!

12 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Where do you buy the ice?

Also, of course, if you want to cool down your house by buying ice and using a fan with it, you must do the following things:

a. Keep all windows closed.

b. Buy a large block of ice.

c. How Big a Block of Ice? You will require a block of ice weighing about 1.67 tons, EACH DAY.....

d. Just put your 1.67-Ton block of ice in the middle of the room, and you might not even need your fan.

e. Drill a hole in your floor to allow the melting ice to escape, or you will end up with a swimming pool after about a week of this.

How did I arrive at this tonnage?

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Anyway, stay cool, Man.....

Best regards Gamma

You don't buy Ice , there are containers that come with the unit ,you

put them in the deep freeze .then when frozen into unit.

regards Worgeordie

16 hours ago, John Drake said:

I have a Mitsubishi that for some reason allows me to set the thermostat at 31, instead of the 30 on the Panasonics, which I almost never turn on in my office or library. 31 seems comfortable enough when paired with a fan. And I also have floor fans all through the house. The one thing I never understood about Thailand is why builders never installed attic fans to suck in a strong breeze and move out stale hot air. I don't even see roof turbines in my village, although I know they're out there in other places.

Can you REALLY tell the difference between 30 & 31, or any other 1 degree difference?

I doubt it.

Not sure it is the hottest but it is the longest that I can remember, hovering around 40°C every day, normally you get some rain. Travelling from Nong Khai to Chiang Khan it is the lowest I have seen the Mekhong river

I don't think its as hot as it was a couple of years ago. Then, after a THB15,000 electricity bill due to using air con all the time during that real hot spell, I try to only use it at night to cool the bedroom before going to sleep.

Now I have curtains closed, and windows open each side of the house to try (if there is any breeze) to get some flow through. I also bought a couple of 18" Hatari 5 speed pedestal fans to keep air circulating. They do a good job.

God knows what electricity bills will be like this year with the energy crisis.

Temps are always measured in the shade. Chiang Mai would regularly hit the 40s, but yes no doubt it’s all warming up.

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1 minute ago, phetphet said:

I don't think its as hot as it was a couple of years ago. Then, after a THB15,000 electricity bill due to using air con all the time during that real hot spell, I try to only use it at night to cool the bedroom before going to sleep.

Now I have curtains closed, and windows open each side of the house to try (if there is any breeze) to get some flow through. I also bought a couple of 18" Hatari 5 speed pedestal fans to keep air circulating. They do a good job.

God knows what electricity bills will be like this year with the energy crisis.

15k! Fk a doodle do! That’s more than my rent. How much beer/tarts would that buy ya?! 😀

It certainly does feel hotter than usual and the nights feel considerably hotter than normal. Hopefully once we get through this month we'll start seeing some rain and it will cool down a bit. A lot of people talk about how remarkable the sun is and how life on earth could not exist without it. I consider the sun to be fairly useless, and a real pain, especially in Thailand this time of year. I will take cloud cover 200 days of the year here instead of highly overrated sunshine.

Every article that gets into temperatures, perceived temperatures or memories of temperatures generates similar, unresolved debates. Using different locations measured by different instruments is folly. I suspect it is because people enjoy adding comments, expressing their opinions more than actually wanting a definitive answer.
Sorry, but that game is boring. Can one compare dates at the same location, or view national conditions in a map? There are online sources and this links to one. It has a database going back a number of years.
You can access the interactive menu to shift hourly, or use the URL to shift dates rapidly.
https://earth.nullschool.net/#2024/04/15/0500Z/wind/surface/level/overlay=misery_index/orthographic=-259.31,12.41,3811/loc=100.072,14.970

I took a snapshot of today and compared it to 2024 (which was the hottest year overall so far.) The interactive site can show simple temperature, but the map is more definitive if set on Misery Index because the colors shirt rapidly in the range that matters as to human metabolic limits. I've referred to this site often over the years. 2024 was generally less healthy to human life than 2026 so far.Thailand 2024 vs 2026.jpg

If the Super El Niño arrives as forecast, 2027 will break many of the records set in 2024. This record is particularly dangerous. This bottom graphic also show the options of the interactive menu when opened.


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Yes! I've lived in Thailand for almost 25 years, and these last couple of weeks have seemed to be the hottest I've ever experienced. ☹️

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20 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

And a few short months ago we were complaining about the cold weather. The ocean was too cold for me in December and January. Last week, it was like a nice spa, on the days the algae bloom wasn't evident. Not making light of your concern, because it is serious. A drought will put millions of Thai farmers at risk of ruin. My friend has already seen his rice fields neglected because of the Cambodian crisis. A drought will put several of his family farms into arid wastelands. We will see wildfires and soil erosion. So yes, we are on the cusp of a national catastrophe if we are into a very hot period. Making it worse is the fuel crisis. Cheap fuel powers the irrigation pumps .

And also add a fertilizer shortage and price increase into the mix. Let's hope the long term forecasts are wrong and we can avoid a catastrophe.

20 hours ago, John Drake said:

I still go through the day without aircon.


Me too. Our kitchen (sun-exposed exterior wall) can get up to 37 deg C during the late afternoon but the humidity is only 36%, so not an issue. We run a/c in the bedrooms overnight.

I do a daily 24km bicycle ride at 17:30 and I think 2024 was hotter.

Every year as I get older, the stairs seem steeper, too.

Hottest I can remember.

Daytime,yes very hot.

In years passed it never seemed to cool down at night but this year we are getting a nice cool breeze

in the evening and it cools down enough.

We have not yet used the aircon this year.

Get up early in the morning and it is still nice and cool.

I guess it all depends where you are located.

18 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Nah ! , this is not hot ,comfortable watching TV with just a fan , don't have

A/c don't like it ,plenty of trees and water around the house ,in the 40 ye

living here , there must have been much hotter times ,as I bought 2 of those

air coolers that you put ice in , they are useless ,and have not found the

need to use them in last 3 years at least. I prefer the heat to the cold ,

could not go through a British winter now.

regards worgeordie

The reason I opted for retirement in Thailand was no cold weather and no snow. I use a fan this month late mornings and then late PM turn on A/C in my exercise room for an hour and just before bed, I turn on the A/C for an hour in the bedroom. I don't sleep with a fan nor A/C but I used to maybe due to OLD age. But I saw a video today about the Super Typhoon about to strike those US Islands in the Pacific Ocean. Normally they reported that in April there are no Super Typhoons in this area as the ocean is too cool to provide fuel for the development to Super size and it usually isn't warm enough until July! However, this typhoon is predicted to hit 280KM per hour wind speed. Scary for those folks and building on those islands. Meanwhile, I am an American and I can't imagine living in the central west/north of the US due to the tornados and hailstones the size of softballs (4-inch). Another video today showed the sinkholes in Florida - over 5000 insurance claims in the last 5 years and now sinkholes are going straight at Disney World. Houses are expensive near there, insurance isn't cheap, and if a sink hole opens near you and you are evicted by the law, you still have to pay your mortgage payments! But, I guess the stock market is zooming for some or will be when the president opens the Strait (wonder if he will charge each tanker coming through) and he stops the "excursion". Certainly glad I am still here in Thailand! Sure hope the cold front from China brings some rain this week.

Most of ASEAN will suffer from rapid climate chnages.The rural poor have little savings more likley debts .

Thailand does have however lots of rainwater that at great cost could be captured and moved by pipes as in many other places.Lots of Australia Spain has huge irrigation and water transfers .

However the wealthier urban dwellers will not pay without self interest.

I fear as we see in other nations jobless youth and displaced rural poor will migrate to cities and live in squalor in insecure jobs.

Villages globally are increasingly aged populations with perhaps schools surviving on grandkids dumped in the villages so parents can work in Bangkok etc.

Whether this El Nino and arguments about pace and origins I think none can deny global warming will hit the poor hardest there will be bandoned, unviable farms, dust bowls and social problems.

Those of us who can afford aircon need be grateful for our luck.

19 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Nah ! , this is not hot ,comfortable watching TV with just a fan , don't have

A/c don't like it ,plenty of trees and water around the house ,in the 40 years

living here , there must have been much hotter times ,as I bought 2 of those

air coolers that you put ice in , they are useless ,and have not found the

need to use them in last 3 years at least. I prefer the heat to the cold ,

could not go through a British winter now.

regards worgeordie

15 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

You would not need to buy one single solid cube of ice weighing 1.67 Tonis, per day.

Also, water is very dense, the density of water is ONE.

And so, one ton of ice does not take up that much space in a room actually.

Also, melting ice is ALMOST SILENT.....

Therefore, much quieter than an AC, and probably smells better, too.

In fact, 1.67 tons of ice is not much bigger than a mid-size refrigerator, as you can see:

You don't need to rent a crane.

Just buy smaller cubes of ice, and assemble them in your room, one at a time, to make one single larger cube.

If you are OK lifting 50 Kgs, then just order 33 smaller cubes of 50 Kgs each.

...reminds me of a hotel in somewhere in northern China when on road trip there some 20 years ago. Stopped to a town to look a place to sleep overnight, and went in to check a hotel. The place looked acceptable other than the staff told AC doesn't work (or not have can't remember) - however as a temporary solution for us they offered to carry a fridge to the room and have it run the door open to cool the room...what?!?...thanks but no thanks.

While leaving the the room the staff was talking in chinese (brainstorming) and after some talk made the same proposal as you - they would bring large quantity of ice to the room to cool it.

Still passed and found another place.

If you dont like aircon, maybe try the chinese solution of fridge as cooler if the ice solution does not feel like yours.

21 hours ago, superal said:

Believe me , you can feel the difference between 42 c and 40 c , up here in Isan and miles from a coastal breeze .

Yes....the pedestal fans are suddenly heating you, not cooling, and even the big aircons start to struggle.

I've just rigged up water mist curtain thingy around the outside awnings......it works well, but it's difficult to avoid feeling wet most of the time and the amount of water it uses is huge....got watch that water bill...it was 120B last month.

1 hour ago, mran66 said:

If you dont like aircon, maybe try the chinese solution of fridge as cooler if the ice solution does not feel like yours.

Putting a refrigerator in the room, with an open door, will act as a dehumidifier.

The room will increase in temperature.

But, the RH will decrease.

Unfortunately, the compressor of refrigerators are too puny to really affect anything at all.

There are still some places in China where education does not extend past grade 3.

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