7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

It is actually considered to be Anti Semitic to label Israel as being Nazis or compare them to Nazis .

No it isn’t !!!

Please read the JDA (Jerusalem Declaration on Antisemitism) and Nexus documents.

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I think it fair to say it was.

Anti Israelis do seem to have this weird fixation with Nazis .

The people who oppose the Jewish state frequently mention Nazis .

43 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Fishing or not I'm surprised that you agree with me about Zionism.

Says a lot about you.

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

It is actually considered to be Anti Semitic to label Israel as being Nazis or compare them to Nazis .

I put this into Goggle:

It is actually considered to be Anti Semitic to label Israel as being Nazis or compare them to Nazis, by who?

Interesting result, as follows:

AI Overview

Labeling Israel or its policies as Nazi-like is considered antisemitic by major international bodies, including the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA), the U.S. Department of State, and organizations like the World Jewish Congress. This comparison is identified as "Holocaust inversion," which is seen as a form of antisemitism because it trivializes the Holocaust, demonizes Jews by associating them with their oppressors, and holds them to a standard applied to no other nation.

World Jewish Congress +3

Key entities and individuals identifying this as antisemitic include:

• The IHRA Definition: The widely adopted IHRA definition of antisemitism explicitly lists "drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis" as an example of antisemitic speech.

• Government & Official Bodies: Various governments, including the US State Department and European bodies, utilize this definition. The Israeli government also strongly condemns this comparison, with the embassy in Poland, for example, labeling such comparisons as "disgusting" and "antisemitic".

• Scholars and Advocates: Experts on antisemitism, such as

  Deborah Lipstadt, the U.S. Special Envoy for Combating Antisemitism, classify this as a "soft-core" form of Holocaust denial. Other researchers, like Eyal Levin, argue this is part of a "new antisemitism".

• Jewish Organizations: Groups like the World Jewish Congress and the International March of the Living argue that equating Israel

  to Nazis is meant to demonize and delegitimize the Jewish state.

  World Jewish Congress +4

These comparisons are viewed as a way to use the Holocaust to attack the Jewish state (Holocaust inversion), effectively blaming victims of the Nazis by portraying them as Nazis themselves.

World Jewish Congress

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

That question is often asked in a way implying blame to Jews and as if it's some kind of hidden mystery and yes it has ALREADY BEEN COVERED here before multiple times.

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I will comment on the horns. I was having a laugh assuming any educated person knows about the Jews have horns trope.

I will give an answer to a couple of sentences in your post, and as I am not a religious person in any way, shape, or form, then it's not surprising that I have never visited a thread on this subject before, and I haven't as far as I recall, so it may have already been covered, but I haven't read it/seen it, so it is new to me. In addition to that I have stayed away from anything religious in my many years on this planet because I think it's a load of hogwash/fairy stories and nonsense, hence missing the "Jews have horns trope".

As for your comment about "any educated person knows", well I didn't and I consider myself fairly well educated, right from attending a most prestigious grammar school in the UK, founded in 1532, to studying electrical engineering and working in several overseas countries, before changing direction and becoming VP of sales and establishment marketing for American Express, eventually ending up studying investments and markets and taking up a very senior position in a major bank and starting the investment advisory division, which I began with $100,000 of seed capital, building it to just under $2 billion in total before taking early retirement.

So I do take offence at some aspects of your post, however as I said before, not a problem as it's been my decision not to really study anything to do with religion, hence my "lack of knowledge on certain aspects of it".

However, I do thank a couple of posters on here for their input, especially @Evil Penevil which has been most enlightening.

7 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

No it isn’t !!!

Please read the JDA (Jerusalem Declaration on Antisemitism) and Nexus documents.

Comparing Israel to Nazis is anti-Semitic, 31 Western states agree

https://www.timesofisrael.com/comparing-israel-to-nazis-is-anti-semitic-31-western-states-agree/

20 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

IMO, they are false claims .

Just like the constant "On the brink of starvation " claims .

Why do you even care, you’ve already declared your unconditional support for anything Israel does to the Palestinians.

You will not however have recourse to the excuse ‘If only we had known’.

18 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Anti Israelis do seem to have this weird fixation with Nazis .

The people who oppose the Jewish state frequently mention Nazis .

I made no such argument.

10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Comparing Israel to Nazis is anti-Semitic, 31 Western states agree

https://www.timesofisrael.com/comparing-israel-to-nazis-is-anti-semitic-31-western-states-agree/

Any State in the World can agree with this, but the problem is in my view is the general populations of any State can have a view also, which doesn't necessarily agree the same as the Politicians of those States.

There lies the problem.

17 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Comparing Israel to Nazis is anti-Semitic, 31 Western states agree

https://www.timesofisrael.com/comparing-israel-to-nazis-is-anti-semitic-31-western-states-agree/

2016, long before Israel engaged in the genocide of Palestinians.

45 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

I put this into Goggle:

It is actually considered to be Anti Semitic to label Israel as being Nazis or compare them to Nazis, by who?

Interesting result, as follows:

AI Overview

Labeling Israel or its policies as Nazi-like is considered antisemitic by major international bodies, including the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA), the U.S. Department of State, and organizations like the World Jewish Congress. This comparison is identified as "Holocaust inversion," which is seen as a form of antisemitism because it trivializes the Holocaust, demonizes Jews by associating them with their oppressors, and holds them to a standard applied to no other nation.

World Jewish Congress +3

Key entities and individuals identifying this as antisemitic include:

• The IHRA Definition: The widely adopted IHRA definition of antisemitism explicitly lists "drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis" as an example of antisemitic speech.

• Government & Official Bodies: Various governments, including the US State Department and European bodies, utilize this definition. The Israeli government also strongly condemns this comparison, with the embassy in Poland, for example, labeling such comparisons as "disgusting" and "antisemitic".

• Scholars and Advocates: Experts on antisemitism, such as

  Deborah Lipstadt, the U.S. Special Envoy for Combating Antisemitism, classify this as a "soft-core" form of Holocaust denial. Other researchers, like Eyal Levin, argue this is part of a "new antisemitism".

• Jewish Organizations: Groups like the World Jewish Congress and the International March of the Living argue that equating Israel

  to Nazis is meant to demonize and delegitimize the Jewish state.

  World Jewish Congress +4

These comparisons are viewed as a way to use the Holocaust to attack the Jewish state (Holocaust inversion), effectively blaming victims of the Nazis by portraying them as Nazis themselves.

World Jewish Congress

I don't think anyone needs to demonise Israel. They're doing an outstanding job of that themselves! Those comparisons indicate genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity, ethnic cleansing, starvation. Sadly, those are true. It's only the word that offends knee-jerks.

31 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Why do you even care, you’ve already declared your unconditional support for anything Israel does to the Palestinians.

You will not however have recourse to the excuse ‘If only we had known’.

I know now and I fully support Israel .

I do realise that you are making yet another comparison to the Nazis .

*If only we"d known what the Nazis/Isreal were doing*

A subtle anti semitic Nazi comparison thrown in for good measure

56 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Anti Israelis do seem to have this weird fixation with Nazis .

The people who oppose the Jewish state frequently mention Nazis .

Finally, we have something in common!

33 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

2016, long before Israel engaged in the genocide of Palestinians.

Genocide has been conducted by numerous Countries .

Both before and after the Nazis .

Why keep comparing Israel to Nazis , rather than any other genocidal group , like the Khmer Rouge or Hutus ?

Why ALWAYS the Nazis ?

12 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

I posted links to two lengthy articles on the background of antisemitism in an earlier thread. I'll repeat them below. Also check out Why the Jews: History of Antisemitism on the Web site of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum. https://www.ushmm.org/antisemitism/what-is-antisemitism/why-the-jews-history-of-antisemitism

I don't think there's any ill-intent to the same question by different posters. For most of us, l assume including most Jews, it's just such a bizarre head-scratcher. Why Jews?

6 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I don't think there's any ill-intent to the same question by different posters. For most of us, l assume including most Jews, it's just such a bizarre head-scratcher. Why Jews?

Why do Jews interest you so much ?

Answer your own question .

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Comparing Israel to Nazis is anti-Semitic, 31 Western states agree

https://www.timesofisrael.com/comparing-israel-to-nazis-is-anti-semitic-31-western-states-agree/

And over 200 holocaust scholars disagree.

It is precisely because of Israel the IHRA definition no longer applies.

7 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

And over 200 holocaust scholars disagree.

It is precisely because of Israel the IHRA definition no longer applies.

Downplaying the extent of the Holocaust is regarded as being Anti Semitic .

Saying Israel are like the Nazis committing genocide IS Downplaying the extent of the Holocaust .

Therefore , comparing Nazis and their Holocaust to Israel and their Gaza war, is indeed Anti semitic .

Comparing the Holocaust to the Gaza war is downplaying the extent of the Holocaust

We interrupt this broadcast with a little Jewish humour:

During the Second World War, a southern matron calls up the local army base.

“We would be honored,” she tells the sergeant who takes her call, “to accommodate five soldiers at our Thanksgiving dinner.”

“That’s very gracious of you, ma’am,” the sergeant answers.

“Just please make sure they’re not Jews.”

“I understand ma’am.”

Thanksgiving afternoon, the woman answers the front doorbell and is horrified to find five black soldiers standing in the doorway.

“We’re here for the Thanksgiving dinner, ma’am,” one of the soldiers says.

“Bu . . . bu . . . but your sergeant has made a terrible mistake, “ the woman says.

“Oh no, ma’am,” the soldier answers. “Sergeant Greenberg never makes mistakes.”

Racism is racism.

12 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Downplaying the extent of the Holocaust is regarded as being Anti Semitic .

Saying Israel are like the Nazis committing genocide IS Downplaying the extent of the Holocaust .

Therefore , comparing Nazis and their Holocaust to Israel and their Gaza war, is indeed Anti semitic .

Comparing the Holocaust to the Gaza war is downplaying the extent of the Holocaust

Sorry, but Jews have lost all credibility playing the holocaust card. Get over it.

19 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I fully support Isreals actions .

Palestinins need to be removed from the land .

Its the only chance Israelis will be able lo live a peaceful existance

Israelis, Nick, have never known a peaceful existence. They don't even know what it is! Peace, Nick, is the absence of war. That means one side has to lay down their arms. If they are too adamant to do so, then the other side must. In this case, both sides are so entrenched in racism and hatred, I don't see any end, no matter how much Israel wars on its neighbours. There will always remain seeds and roots, even if the IDF thinks they've killed every last Muslim. Just waiting for some blood to water it. War is a loser's game.

19 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

You will get my answer, and it goes: It depends on if they support what Israel is doing against Palestinians in Gaza and on the West Bank.

It's not "they" meaning Jews. It's about anybody who supports genocide.

In this age, Jews are not the victims. And they were never the only victims.

19 hours ago, Packer said:

Just what part of this did you not understand?

"only one side is wanted internationally on charges of war crimes: The Jews."

There are no warrants out for Hamas or anyone else involved, from this conflict only Jews have warrants out for their arrest on war crime charges (and crimes against humanity). 🙂

I'd like to see this issue more fully explored so we can get to the bottom of why or if that is so.

Perhaps the IDF kills Hamas leaders so fast the warrants, and the men, expire before arrest.

13 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Sorry, but Jews have lost all credibility playing the holocaust card. Get over it.

You have no answer to the points I raised .

You lost the argument .

18 hours ago, papa al said:

Nazis didn't genocide Palastinians.

USA didn't fund Nazis.

Not Palestinians per se but Nazis certainly did commit crimes against humanity in their African colonies.

US corporations were playing both sides for money, just as today! The war crime is that the US govt didn't stop them.

• Standard Oil: Facilitated massive technology transfers to the German chemical giant I.G. Farben, providing the blueprints and patents for high-octane aviation fuel and synthetic rubber necessary for the Luftwaffe and German military vehicles.

• General Motors (GM) and Ford: Their German subsidiaries, Opel and Ford-Werke, produced a majority of the trucks used by the German army. GM alone received $32 million in compensation from the U.S. government after the war because its German factories were bombed by Allied forces.

• IBM: Provided the Hollerith punch-card machines that allowed the Nazi regime to efficiently conduct censuses and track populations, which became a vital tool in organizing the Holocaust.

• International Telephone & Telegraph (ITT):Collaborated with the Gestapo to develop communication systems and navigation guidance for the V2 rockets used to bomb Allied cities. 

Financial Institutions

U.S. banks helped manage assets and move capital that financed Nazi operations. 

• Union Banking Corporation (UBC): Managed by Prescott Bush (grandfather of George W. Bush), UBC acted as a front for German industrialist Fritz Thyssen, shipping millions of dollars in gold, fuel, and U.S. Treasury bonds to Germany before the bank's assets were seized under the Trading with the Enemy Act in 1942.

• Chase National Bank and J.P. Morgan: Conducted business in Nazi-occupied Paris, facilitating cash transfers and reportedly holding Jewish assets that were never returned after the war.

• Bank for International Settlements (BIS): Led by American Thomas H. McKittrick during the war, the BIS accepted Nazi gold stolen from occupied nations and allowed the movement of Nazi funds between Berlin and the West. 

Post-War Support

Following the war, the U.S. government utilized Nazi expertise and personnel as assets in the burgeoning Cold War. 

• Operation Paperclip: The U.S. government secretly brought over 1,600 Nazi scientists and engineers—including Wernher von Braun—to work on American rocket and weapons programs, bypassing their war crimes records.

• Intelligence Assets: U.S. intelligence agencies, such as the CIA and its predecessors, knowingly employed former Nazis and collaborators as spies and informants against the Soviet Union.

20 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You have no answer to the points I raised .

You lost the argument .

If you say so, it must be right.

Sorry for the delay, I couldn’t stop laughing.

17 hours ago, Jingthing said:

NO!

The diaspora scenario was about TERRORISTS attacking INNOCENT civilians just because they were assumed to be Jewish people in an area of the world not in an active war.

Why do you LIE so much?

I guess you're fishing for this so I'll repeat again:

I consider Netanyahu a war criminal.

Israel was totally and legally justified in responding the music festival massacre but they went way overboard in doing so.

Charges of genocide against the Israeli government are fully justified pending final officially recognized judgement just as such charges as against any government.

Israel is one of MULTIPLE nations in the world right now that can be reasonably charged with genocide yet for some reason (Jews) Israel is the only one that gets over 99 percent of the world's attention.

Zionism only means support for the right of Israel to exist, have political self determination and defend itself. It does not necessarily mean support for the actions of the Israeli government. Those things are NOT the same. Some Zionists do, some don't. Compare to Russians. There is nothing wrong with loving Russia. There is a lot wrong with supporting Z fascist genocidal dictator Putin.

Jing, please see my analysis 'Zionism in practice" here. Yes, Zionists since 1897 have been all about wanting a homeland...with only Jews and as few Arabs as possible. Sounds like ethnic cleansing to me. I thought I could tolerate Zionism before I did this in-depth research.

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

It is actually considered to be Anti Semitic to label Israel as being Nazis or compare them to Nazis .

Considered so by some. One of the reasons attacks on Jewish people who live outside of the state of Israel are rightly condemned is just because someone is Jewish doesn't mean that they are responsible for the actions of the state of Israel. But on the other hand when Israel's is criticized harshly for its actions somehow that is construed as an attack on Jews everywhere. Israel is not a synonym for Jews. And if Israelis adopt a kind of tactics and practices that Nazis did, then they deserve to be called out on that.

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I know now and I fully support Israel .

I do realise that you are making yet another comparison to the Nazis .

*If only we"d known what the Nazis/Isreal were doing*

A subtle anti semitic Nazi comparison thrown in for good measure

Nonsense.

I was making a very overt reference to the denial excuse many used in the aftermath of the Holocaust referenced in the OP.