On 4/15/2026 at 6:13 PM, Jingthing said:

Not saying Israel hasn't behaved badly.

But, are you saying that The People of Israel are not committing GENOCIDE?

And, let us be clear: Just as in Germany, the People of Israel CANNOT say they have been ignorant of this slaughter.

10 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Incorrect.

He DOES have to keep saying it.

We MUST keeps saying it until The People of Israel are forced to cease in their commission of GENOCIDE.

We cannot say it too much, in fact.

The People of Israel are clearly and totally out of touch with reality, having lived in their bubble, for decades, with a state-controlled media all about them.

This is Siege mentality, and it is completely warped.

We cannot say this enough, and it is NOT repetitious, but necessary.

To be fair, I think what Nick means is, he doesn’t like hearing it.

He doesn’t have an argument against it, he just doesn’t want to hear it.

21 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

But, are you saying that The People of Israel are not committing GENOCIDE?

And, let us be clear: Just as in Germany, the People of Israel CANNOT say they have been ignorant of this slaughter.

I was about the answer you and then read your second paragraph conflating Israel to Nazi Germany so I don't entertain people who are spreading that outrageous equivalence narrative. DISGUTING!

5 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Holocaust Warning: Jewish Leader Sounds Alarm On Hate Surge

Stop slaughtering people, stealing land and behaving badly around the world. Any other group systematically acts like this will rightly experience pushback.

Some random Jew in Buenos Aires is doing that?

You sir are yet another one actively promoting hatred of all Jews.

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I was about the answer you and then read your second paragraph conflating Israel to Nazi Germany so I don't entertain people who are spreading that outrageous equivalence narrative. DISGUTING!

Why not? I can certainly see the similarities, in some aspects Israel is worse.

Most Israelis want the Palestinians gone, out of Gaza regardless of how. Most Germans were ambivalent towards the Jews and Homosexuals

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

Why not? I can certainly see the similarities, in same aspects Israel is worse.

Most Israelis want the Palestinians gone, out of Gaza regardless of how. Most Germans were ambivalent towards the Jews and Homosexuals

Now Israel is worse than Nazi Germany.

This total idiocy is the kind of hatred and ignorance that we're dealing with now,

To add, most Palestinians want all the Jews gone.

Do you totally not get this conflict is a SPECIFIC thing with credible narratives on both sides?

Everything to extremist Israel demonizers such as yourself diotically paints this as a black and white situation, Jews bad/Arabs good. Nothing could be further from the truth.

If you don't know the AskProject then you really should check it out.
This interview with the gay atheist leftist Jewish conflict professor Canadian Israeli who has run this for 14 years will without a doubt challenge many of your stereotypes and long held and wrong ASSUMPTIONS about BOTH sides. I mean EVERYONE. Pro Israel, Pro Palestinian, and every more balanced POV in between. Don't be a KNEE JERK thinker.

Like I do, he sees a two state solution as the only possible (but still bad) answer to this.

On 4/15/2026 at 1:15 PM, Jingthing said:

Unfortunately Jew hating has become more and more mainstream and socially acceptable even in "polite" company.

Why do you think this has happened?

1 minute ago, NanLaew said:

Why do you think this has happened?

Do you think a random Jewish child in Buenos Aires deserves to be hated and violently attacked because of actions of the Israeli government?

3 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Really, I will keep saying it until it stops and the perpetrators are taken to court and tried, on both sides.

Do you have a problem with that?

Jeff , what you post on this forum has no effect on Interntional courts actions .

Do you really think that the International courts will take action because you keep posting the same thing over and over again ?

25 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Why not? I can certainly see the similarities, in some aspects Israel is worse.

Most Israelis want the Palestinians gone, out of Gaza regardless of how. Most Germans were ambivalent towards the Jews and Homosexuals

The Main and huge difference is that the most Israelis want the Palestinians relocated , moved alive to somewhere else .

Germans want to eradicate Jews from the planet .

That is a huge difference

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The Main and huge difference is that the most Israelis want the Palestinians relocated , moved alive to somewhere else .

Germans want to eradicate Jews from the planet .

That is a huge difference

You’re probably not aware of it, but both of those descriptions are genocide as per the legal definition

54 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I think what Nick means is, he doesn’t like hearing it.

Why would he?

Most humans HATE HEARING INCONVENIENT TRUTH.

Why should Nick be any differrent?

37 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I was about the answer you and then read your second paragraph conflating Israel to Nazi Germany so I don't entertain people who are spreading that outrageous equivalence narrative. DISGUTING!

Oh, but I was NOT conflating Israel/Germany.

Read more carefully.

I stated that, just as in Germany, the People of Israel CANNOT PLEAD INNOCENCE/IGNORANCE to GENOCIDE committed by their government.

THIS is what I stated, and there is a huge difference.

52 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

To be fair, I think what Nick means is, he doesn’t like hearing it.

He doesn’t have an argument against it, he just doesn’t want to hear it.

Now Chomper, I have posted numerous times arguments against the claim in numerous threads .

You, like him think winning an argument is saying the same thing over and over again until the other person just gives up saying the same thing over and over again replying .

How many times does the discussion about whether they are war crimes need to take place ?

Every day ?

Once every thread ?

1 minute ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Oh, but I was NOT conflating Israel/Germany.

Read more carefully.

I stated that, just as in Germany, the People of Israel CANNOT PLEAD INNOCENCE to GENOCIDE committed by their government.

THIS is what I stated, and there is a huge difference.

I call BS.

The equivalence narrative was STRONGLY implied.
Don't play dumb.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

I call BS.

The equivalence narrative was STRONGLY implied.
Don't play dumb.

The implication was ONLY alive in your head.

I am not playing dumb Sir.

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Now Chomper, I have posted numerous times arguments against the claim in numerous threads .

You, like him think winning an argument is saying the same thing over and over again until the other person just gives up saying the same thing over and over again replying .

How many times does the discussion about whether they are war crimes need to take place ?

Every day ?

Once every thread ?

Until the deniers accept it

1 minute ago, GammaGlobulin said:

The implication was ONLY alive in your head.

I am not playing dumb Sir.

I am not going to be troll baited into your disingenuous game playing.

Again you ARE playing dumb and fooling nobody.

Of all the genocides in human history and happening in multipie countries right now, "coincidentally" you choose NAZI GERMANY to use as your one example to conflate with modern Israel.

Israel demonizers know that the trauma from the holocaust still lives in most of the world's Jews to this day.

So they go for the jugular with their totally bogus Nazi equivalence narrative.

That is promoting Jew hatred. Own up to that.

The fact is most Israelis have ill will for the Palestinians, most Germans did not have ill will for the Jews.

The Israelis are currently closer aligned in thinking to the Nazis than they are to the Germans of that period.

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

The fact is most Israelis have ill will for the Palestinians, most Germans did not have ill will for the Jews.

The Israelis are currently closer aligned in thinking to the Nazis than they are to the Germans of that period.

Garbage.

You ignore that the Jews of Israel know for a fact that the vast majority of Palestinians want all the Jews of Israel gone or dead and have for a very long time.

They know for a fact that as soon as the state of Israel was founded the entire Arab world attacked.

This hateful repetition of suggesting an equivalence or worse between Israel and Nazi Germany is reprehensible.

Criticize Israel normally as you would any nation accused on genocide. That's fine and well deserved.

That doesn't make Isreal the same or worse than Nazi Germany.

6 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Until the deniers accept it

What difference to you would that make ?

If the whole forum agreed with you, what difference would that make to you personally ?

If the whole forum agreed with you, would you then move on to different subject ?

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I am not going to be troll baited into your disingenuous game playing.

Again you ARE playing dumb and fooling nobody.

Of all the genocides in human history and happening in multipie countries right now, "coincidentally" you choose NAZI GERMANY to use as your one example to conflate with modern Israel.

Israel demonizers know that the trauma from the holocaust still lives in most of the world's Jews to this day.

So they go for the jugular with their totally bogus Nazi equivalence narrative.

That is promoting Jew hatred. Own up to that.

I do not know and cannot speak for others.

I only speak for myself.

There is no need to discount my argument or statements based on something that is not true.

And, now, you have added "trolling" into the mix?

Perhaps, best to first examine your own biases before moving further with this.

15 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Now Chomper, I have posted numerous times arguments against the claim in numerous threads .

You, like him think winning an argument is saying the same thing over and over again until the other person just gives up saying the same thing over and over again replying .

How many times does the discussion about whether they are war crimes need to take place ?

Every day ?

Once every thread ?

Here’s the point Nick.

Neither you nor anyone excusing or otherwise supporting Israel committing genocide will have recourse to the excuse ‘If only we had known’.

7 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

The fact is most Israelis have ill will for the Palestinians, most Germans did not have ill will for the Jews.

The Israelis are currently closer aligned in thinking to the Nazis than they are to the Germans of that period.

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Garbage.

You ignore that the Jews of Israel know for a fact that the vast majority of Palestinians want all the Jews of Israel gone or dead and have for a very long time.

They know for a fact that as soon as the state of Israel was founded the entire Arab world attacked.

This hateful repetition of suggesting an equivalence or worse between Israel and Nazi Germany is reprehensible.

Criticize Israel normally as you would any nation accused on genocide. That's fine and well deserved.

That doesn't make Isreal the same or worse than Nazi Germany.

Which part of my statement is garbage?

Do you deny that most Israelis bear ill will to the Palestinians?

Or was it my statement that most Germans did not bear ill will to the Jews?

If those two statements are accepted, it stands to reason most Israelis are closer aligned to Nazi thinking than Germans of that period as the Nazis did indeed bear ill will to the Jews.

The rest of your statement about how Palestinians feel is blatant irrelevant whataboutism, we aren’t discussing that. Dont change the subject.

Another thing to consider about this very complex, very long standing conflict that indeed does feature credible narratives on both sides.

Imagine this.

Suppose by some miracle the Israelis elect a peace and love government with radically reversed policies.

Withdraw from all west bank settlements, endorse recognition of a self governing Palestinian state, send all the IDF soldiers home to smoke pot and contemplate their navels?

Be honest --- how many days would it take for Palestinians to attack the internationally recognized borders of Israel and now with no IDF and no international plan to secure a viable two state solution to overrun Israel, mass murder Jews, and chase away the Jews who could get away and end the state of Israel? I know many of you haters want just that and would celebtrate. But why should Israel commit national suicide to please you or anyone else?

24 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Jeff , what you post on this forum has no effect on Interntional courts actions .

Do you really think that the International courts will take action because you keep posting the same thing over and over again ?

I've no idea, but if nobody says anything it will be forgotten, for nearly 80 years this has gone on for with I believe a majority not seeing until lately what the Israeli's have kept out of the general publics eyes, social media and smart phones have/will be their undoing.

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Another thing to consider about this very complex, very long standing conflict that indeed does feature credible narratives on both sides.

Imagine this.

Suppose by some miracle the Israelis elect a peace and love government with radically reversed policies.

Withdraw from all west bank settlements, endorse recognition of a self governing Palestinian state, send all the IDF soldiers home to smoke pot and contemplate their navels?

Be honest --- how many days would it take for Palestinians to attack the internationally recognized borders of Israel and now with no IDF and no international plan to secure a viable two state solution to overrun Israel, mass murder Jews, and chase away the Jews who could get away and end the state of Israel? I know many of you haters want just that and would celebtrate. But why should Israel commit national suicide to please you or anyone else?

I think they’ve learned their lesson and I don’t believe they would attack

And I like your suggestion I think it’s very fair and should be carried out immediately

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

I think they’ve learned their lesson and I don’t believe they would attack

That kind of says it all about the level of your understanding of this conflict.

Though I suppose anyone and everyone is welcome to post on these topics, even those that clearly know absolutely nothing about them.

43 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Do you think a random Jewish child in Buenos Aires deserves to be hated and violently attacked because of actions of the Israeli government?

No I don't. So this is a conflation of nationality, politics and faith, either willfully, by being misinformed or through ignorance?