Here's a Holocaust for you. This is what Zionists have wanted since 1897:

And this is what Israel's done to reach that goal so far:

I have come to the realisation that Israel has become an illegitimate state and maybe has been from the beginning unnoticed by the rest of the world.

16 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

These are the ones I wear to the food court of a local mall where Palestinian teenagers hang out. Mall security is not happy with me. The first one is my favorite. I wear them because the teenagers harassed an elderly Jewish lady for wearing a Star of David pendant. Better they try to harass me. 😀

The second one is particularly fascist, Ev. If you have not been in the IDF, the others are simply misdirection. Palestinian kids in Bangkok?

How about something more realistic?

9 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Here's a Holocaust for you. This is what Zionists have wanted since 1897:

And this is what Israel's done to reach that goal so far:

I have come to the realisation that Israel has become an illegitimate state and maybe has been from the beginning unnoticed by the rest of the world.

Israel has already conquered Washington.

You did not include this in your map.

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Why do Jews interest you so much ?

Answer your own question .

I have a natural affinity for Jews due to my upbringing. I had a upbringing that gave me a conscience...for all people.

20 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I have a natural affinity for Jews due to my upbringing. I had a upbringing that gave me a conscience...for all people.

Did you also have a natural affinity for Israel due to your upbringing?

I think not.

1 hour ago, Alan Zweibel said:

But on the other hand when Israel's is criticized harshly for its actions somehow that is construed as an attack on Jews everywhere.

No it isn't .

Who construes it as that ?

1 hour ago, unblocktheplanet said:

The second one is particularly fascist, Ev. If you have not been in the IDF, the others are simply misdirection. Palestinian kids in Bangkok?

How about something more realistic?

You are cluttering up the page with junk

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Nonsense.

I was making a very overt reference to the denial excuse many used in the aftermath of the Holocaust referenced in the OP.

Yes , that is what I said .

You said my post was nonsense , then repeated the same thing as my post :)

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Nonsense.

I was making a very overt reference to the denial excuse many used in the aftermath of the Holocaust referenced in the OP.

4 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

I think you’re the one who could use a history lesson, Jingthing.

The indiscriminate bombing and shelling of civilian populations, and the use of military force to expand one's borders are two glaring examples of parallels between what the Wehrmacht did during WWIi and what the IDF have done in Gaza, Lebanon and Iran.

Attempts to decapitate the leadership in these three countries can also be compared to Nazi tactics to murder resistance leadership in countries Germany occupied during the war.

When the Israeli government showed itself to believe that “never again” was only applicable to the Jewish people, and it was acceptable to perpetrate the same types of atrocities committed on the Jewish people on others under the banner of self defense and self determination, I’m sorry, but in my eyes, the Jewish state has lost a great deal of its moral stature.

And please don’t come back with accusations that I am a closet anti-Semite. I grew up in NYC, had many Jewish friends in my formative years, and have revered Jewish comedians all my life. What I am saying is that while their sense of victimhood in the wake of the Holocaust, and their hardening of hearts in the face of equally understandable hostility from their neighbors may be argued to be justified, in my estimation, the state of Israel appears to have lost its moral compass.

You fail to mention the majority of Palestinian Arabs want the Jews of Israel either gone or dead.

So this can't honestly be painted as a any kind of black/white, good/evil situation.

I agree that Israel has lost it's moral authority and has atrocious public relations.

I also do think the only reasonable but still bad answer would be a two state solution.

But again there is NO equivalence to what the Israsli government has done and the what Nazi Germany did.

I well understand why Israel demonizers always insist on pushing the false Nazi equivalence narrative. They know how incredibly offensive that accusation is to most Jews in particular. The holocaust may seem like ancient history to many. but for most Jews the trauma is still there and fresher than you might imagine.

58 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I have a natural affinity for Jews due to my upbringing. I had a upbringing that gave me a conscience...for all people.

Not to speak for all Jews, but with "friends" like you, who needs enemies?

1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Did you also have a natural affinity for Israel due to your upbringing?

I think not.

Absolutely not, nor did most of the Jews I knew, including those in my Yiddish class. I'm getting to the point, Gamma, where I think Israel does not deserve to be a homeland. Militarism has rotted their hearts.

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You are cluttering up the page with junk

The IDF is waiting for you, Nicky. I'm sure you could be of some use. Your hate would fit right in.

2 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Absolutely not, nor did most of the Jews I knew, including those in my Yiddish class. I'm getting to the point, Gamma, where I think Israel does not deserve to be a homeland. Militarism has rotted their hearts.

It was once a noble endeavor, but that didn’t last very long.

2 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Absolutely not, nor did most of the Jews I knew, including those in my Yiddish class. I'm getting to the point, Gamma, where I think Israel does not deserve to be a homeland. Militarism has rotted their hearts.

It never needed to be this way.

I find it strange, and probably possible, that some leaders who have led Israel seem to entertain a long-term obsession for RETRIBUTION, and making the world PAY, for tragedies of the past....INSTEAD OF.....Caring for and Loving both Israel and the People of Israel.

This makes no sense.

Yet, I think this assessment has merit.

13 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

The IDF is waiting for you, Nicky. I'm sure you could be of some use. Your hate would fit right in.

"Hate" !!!!!!!!

I merely remarked that your irrelevant pictures of T-Shirts and maps were cluttering up the page .

Thats hardly "hate" , now is it

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Yes , that is what I said .

You said my post was nonsense , then repeated the same thing as my post :)

No Nick I did not repeat what you said, pretending you can’t use the quote function will not cover up your nasty little lie:

4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I know now and I fully support Israel .

I do realise that you are making yet another comparison to the Nazis .

*If only we"d known what the Nazis/Isreal were doing*

A subtle anti semitic Nazi comparison thrown in for good measure

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“Why do you even care, you’ve already declared your unconditional support for anything Israel does to the Palestinians.

You will not however have recourse to the excuse ‘If only we had known’.”

Once again you reach for your odious habit of misrepresenting the actual comments I made.

You scream antisemitism on the basis of your own misrepresentation of my comments.

It’s an example of precisely why the accusation of antisemitism isn’t washing these days.

Thank you for so very clearly demonstrating its misuse.

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No Nick I did not repeat what you said, pretending you can’t use the quote function will not cover up your nasty little lie:

Once again you reach for your odious habit of misrepresenting the actual comments I made.

You scream antisemitism on the basis of your own misrepresentation of my comments.

It’s an example of precisely why the accusation of antisemitism isn’t washing these days.

Thank you for so very clearly demonstrating its misuse.

Lets get this straight .

You stated that in future there will be no excuse for people saying they didnt know about Israel's current behavior in Gaza .

I said that's a direct reference to German people saying they didn't know about the Nazis behavior at the time .

You said that was nonsense and that is wasn't reference to Germans and Nazis ....................and then went on to say it was a reference to Germans and Nazis .

So, was your " no excuse..........." reference to the Germans or not ?

(BTW , I haven't lied or pretended I don't know how to use the quote function, those are both false claims )

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Lets get this straight .

You stated that in future there will be no excuse for people saying they didnt know about Israel's current behavior in Gaza .

I said that's a direct reference to German people saying they didn't know about the Nazis behavior at the time .

You said that was nonsense and that is wasn't reference to Germans and Nazis ....................and then went on to say it was a reference to Germans and Nazis .

So, was your " no excuse..........." reference to the Germans or not ?

(BTW , I haven't lied or pretended I don't know how to use the quote function, those are both false claims )

Nick, are you having difficulty recalling things said only a few short hours ago?

You don’t have to imagine or otherwise misrepresent what I have said, I have been explicit:

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Nonsense.

I was making a very overt reference to the denial excuse many used in the aftermath of the Holocaust referenced in the OP.

The ‘many’ using this excuse were Germans, civilians in nations occupied by the Nazis and to a troubling extent governments of the allies.

They were not by any means just the Nazis.

“Israel's current behavior in Gaza .”

I wish to be crystal clear about what particular behavior of Israel in Gaza: genocide’ and ‘ethnic cleansing’ in Palestine.

You and others who support or otherwise defend Israel’s genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians will have no recourse to the excuse ‘If only we had known’

If you don’t like the company that puts you amongst, you can choose to start acknowledging the documented genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.

40 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

“Why do you even care, you’ve already declared your unconditional support for anything Israel does to the Palestinians.

You will not however have recourse to the excuse ‘If only we had known’.”

Was that reference to the Germans not knowing or not ?

You were comparing the Nazis to Israel .

"The World didn't know about the Holocaust , there's no excuse for not knowing this time "

That is what you meant .

It was an Anti semitic statement .

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Was that reference to the Germans not knowing or not ?

You were comparing the Nazis to Israel .

"The World didn't know about the Holocaust , there's no excuse for not knowing this time "

That is what you meant .

It was an Anti semitic statement .

Get a grip Nick, I’ve been explicit in my statements.

Do not post statements that I myself have not made and tell me that is what I meant.

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Nick, are you having difficulty recalling things said only a few short hours ago?

You don’t have to imagine or otherwise misrepresent what I have said, I have been explicit:

The ‘many’ using this excuse were Germans, civilians in nations occupied by the Nazis and to a troubling extent governments of the allies.

Yep, I am well confused .

I stated it was a reference to Nazis .

You said that suggestion was nonsense and called me a liar

Now you've gone on to say it WAS a reference to Nazis all along

So, what did I lie about ?

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Yep, I am well confused .

I stated it was a reference to Nazis .

You said that suggestion was nonsense and called me a liar

Now you've gone on to say it WAS a reference to Nazis all along

So, what did I lie about ?

I do accept you are confused Nick.

But it’s no excuse for making up statements on my behalf or otherwise misrepresenting the statements I have made.

When you attribute a statement of your own fabrication to me you are demonstrably lying.

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Comparing Israel to Nazis is anti-Semitic, 31 Western states agree

https://www.timesofisrael.com/comparing-israel-to-nazis-is-anti-semitic-31-western-states-agree/

Only two countries have ever passed legislation effectively prescribing death penalty on a specific race of people.

Nazi Germany was one.

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

No it isn't .

Who construes it as that ?

Jews

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I do accept you are confused Nick.

But it’s no excuse for making up statements on my behalf or otherwise misrepresenting the statements I have made.

When you attribute a statement of your own fabrication to me you are demonstrably lying.

But it was indeed a reference to the Nazis .

I was correct about that , it wasn't lie .

You have yourself agreed it was a reference to Nazis .

Theres no lie there at all

5 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Only two countries have ever passed legislation effectively prescribing death penalty on a specific race of people.

Nazi Germany was one.

Apartheid era South Africa is the other one

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

But it was indeed a reference to the Nazis .

I was correct about that , it wasn't lie .

You have yourself agreed it was a reference to Nazis .

Theres no lie there at all

No it was not Nick and I agreed no such thing.

I’ve explained in detail what it was a reference to.

Stop this nonsense.

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Why do you even care, you’ve already declared your unconditional support for anything Israel does to the Palestinians.

You will not however have recourse to the excuse ‘If only we had known’.

OK, just to clear this up

If only we had know what ?

What is that a reference to ?

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

OK, just to clear this up

If only we had know what ?

What is that a reference to ?

I’ve cleared it up Nick, explicitly so.

Refer above.

15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve cleared it up Nick, explicitly so.

Refer above.

You're flogging a dead horse mate, this is what he does on most of these type threads, frustrating I know.

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Apartheid era South Africa is the other one

Not really the same although as reprehensible as it was more biased policy than legislated.

Then very recent mandated Israeli legislation specifying Palestinians is a direct affront to the face of humanitarian considerations at a time and deliberation that confirms the hypocrisy of denial.