5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The Oct 7 the terror attack on Israel was by Hamas , who were funded by Iran .

Iran funded the Oct 7th attack .

No bombing of Iran on Israel happened on October 7.

So your claim that Iran bombed Israel first is just a lie

1 minute ago, CallumWK said:

No bombing of Iran on Israel happened on October 7.

So your claim that Iran bombed Israel first is just a lie

Not another one .

That's now six Anti Israelis who keep making "lie" allegations .

Iran bombed Israel at a later date and then Israel retaliated by bombing Iran .

1 Oct 7 th terror attack .

2 Iran bombs Israel

3 Israel then bombs Iran

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

Not another one .

That's now six Anti Israelis who keep making "lie" allegations .

Iran bombed Israel at a later date and then Israel retaliated by bombing Iran .

1 Oct 7 th terror attack .

2 Iran bombs Israel

3 Israel then bombs Iran

Stop lying, then you will not be called a liar with reason. It's not for nothing that for more than a year already I only see your posts when someone replies to it.

1 Oct 7 th 2023 terror attack .

2 April 1 2024 Israel bombs Iran consulate in Syria

3 April 13 2024 Iran bombs Israel in retaliation of the April 1 bombing

4 June 13 -24 2025 Israel bombs Iran in surprise attacks

4 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

1 Oct 7 th 2023 terror attack .

2 April 1 2024 Israel bombs Iran consulate in Syria

3 April 13 2024 Iran bombs Israel in retaliation of the April 1 bombing

4 June 13 -24 2025 Israel bombs Iran in surprise attacks

Israel didn't bomb Iran though .

The first bombs between the two countries came from Iran to Israel .

Edited May 7May 7 by Nick Carter icp

9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Israel didn't bomb Iran though .

The first bombs between the two countries came from Iran to Isreal .

Twisting the truth as usual, well done Nicky, no thread about anything to do with Israel is complete without your untruths.

And let’s forget Nethanyahu’s decades long attempts to drag the U.S. into war with Iran

On February 28 2026 he found in Trump a president who is enough of an idiot to go along with his plan for an illegal war of agression.

Edited May 7May 7 by Chomper Higgot

In the name of Buddha Spidey.

Go back to Umerica if you can't let go of it.

Or find another forum.

🙃🙃

4 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Twisting the truth as usual, well done Nicky, no thread about anything to do with Israel is complete without your untruths.

Another one, you lot are out in force today .

The first bombs between the two Countries were from Iran to Israel .

Thats the truth Jeff .

Iran started this by funding the Oct 7 th terror attack and then escalated it by bombing Israel

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Another one, you lot are out in force today .

The first bombs between the two Countries were from Iran to Israel .

Thats the truth Jeff .

Iran started this by funding the Oct 7 th terror attack and then escalated it by bombing Israel

So show me the proof of this claim.

11 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

So show me the proof of this claim.

Its common knowledge .

Basic info which you should know about

"Reports suggest Iran played a key role in supporting the Oct. 7, 2023, attacks, with findings from The Washington Institute and Hoover Institution highlighting that Iran has funded, armed, and trained Hamas for years. While some reports indicate Iranian officials helped approve the attack,"

"Iran has provided significant, long-term financial, military, and training support to Hamas, with estimates placing funding at approximately $100 million annually, and sometimes as high as $350 million, for Palestinian militant groups. This support, facilitated by the IRGC, includes technical assistance for weapon production and strategic planning!

27 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Its common knowledge .

Basic info which you should know about

"Reports suggest Iran played a key role in supporting the Oct. 7, 2023, attacks, with findings from The Washington Institute and Hoover Institution highlighting that Iran has funded, armed, and trained Hamas for years. While some reports indicate Iranian officials helped approve the attack,"

"Iran has provided significant, long-term financial, military, and training support to Hamas, with estimates placing funding at approximately $100 million annually, and sometimes as high as $350 million, for Palestinian militant groups. This support, facilitated by the IRGC, includes technical assistance for weapon production and strategic planning!

What is your take on this little nugget from the US Congress then?

Since October 7, 2023, Israel has been at war with the Palestinian Sunni Islamist group Hamas (a U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organization, or FTO), which led an attack that day from the Gaza Strip into Israel. More than 1,200 Israelis and foreign nationals (including 46 U.S. citizens in Israel) were killed on October 7, and Hamas and other groups also seized some 251 hostages. Iran has provided material support to Hamas for decades, but the Office of the Director of National Intelligence assessed in February 2024 that "Iranian leaders did not orchestrate nor had foreknowledge of" the attack. The conflict that has ensued in the past year has posed major challenges for U.S. policymakers.

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R47828

3 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

What is your take on this little nugget from the US Congress then?

Since October 7, 2023, Israel has been at war with the Palestinian Sunni Islamist group Hamas (a U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organization, or FTO), which led an attack that day from the Gaza Strip into Israel. More than 1,200 Israelis and foreign nationals (including 46 U.S. citizens in Israel) were killed on October 7, and Hamas and other groups also seized some 251 hostages. Iran has provided material support to Hamas for decades, but the Office of the Director of National Intelligence assessed in February 2024 that "Iranian leaders did not orchestrate nor had foreknowledge of" the attack. The conflict that has ensued in the past year has posed major challenges for U.S. policymakers.

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R47828

I don't know the exact participation of the Iranian Government on the Oct 7 th attack (if any).

But Hamas had been bombing Israel regularly for many years with the full support and funding from Iran .

Iran were funding Hamas knowing the money went into missiles to attack Israeli

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I don't know the exact participation of the Iranian Government on the Oct 7 th attack (if any).

But Hamas had been bombing Israel regularly for many years with the full support and funding from Iran .

Iran were funding Hamas knowing the money went into missiles to attack Israeli

Yet your opening post to me was, and I quote:

" Its common knowledge .

Basic info which you should know about

"Reports suggest Iran played a key role in supporting the Oct. 7, 2023, attacks, with findings from The Washington Institute and Hoover Institution highlighting that Iran has funded, armed, and trained Hamas for years. While some reports indicate Iranian officials helped approve the attack,

Now your claiming you don't know the exact participation of the Iranian Government on the Oct 7th attack (if any)."

How many ways do you want to play these statements?

On one hand, it's common knowledge, until it's proved otherwise, then suddenly you don't know, funny that.

7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I don't know the exact participation of the Iranian Government on the Oct 7 th attack (if any).

But Hamas had been bombing Israel regularly for many years with the full support and funding from Iran .

Iran were funding Hamas knowing the money went into missiles to attack Israeli

Nethanyahu’s plan and attempts to drag the U.S. into a war with Iran predate the Hamas terrorist attack of October 7 by decades.

This illegal Israeli/US war of aggression is not a response to the Hamas terrorist attack of October 7, and that heinous terrorist attacker provides not justification for this illegal war.

It was never stated as a justification for the illegal war on Iran, though fervent efforts to post date the claim are noted..

2 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Yet your opening post to me was, and I quote:

" Its common knowledge .

Basic info which you should know about

"Reports suggest Iran played a key role in supporting the Oct. 7, 2023, attacks, with findings from The Washington Institute and Hoover Institution highlighting that Iran has funded, armed, and trained Hamas for years. While some reports indicate Iranian officials helped approve the attack,

Now your claiming you don't know the exact participation of the Iranian Government on the Oct 7th attack (if any)."

How many ways do you want to play these statements?

On one hand, it's common knowledge, until it's proved otherwise, then suddenly you don't know, funny that.

Its common knowledge that Iran were funding Hamas and fully supporting the regular missile attacks on Israel .

Its common knowledge that Iran supports Hamas and there fight against Israel and they praised the Oct 7 th attack .

I don't know the exact role the Iranian Government played in it it, but they funded it and supported it .

12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Nethanyahu’s plan and attempts to drag the U.S. into a war with Iran predate the Hamas terrorist attack of October 7 by decades.

This illegal Israeli/US war of aggression is not a response to the Hamas terrorist attack of October 7, and that heinous terrorist attacker provides not justification for this illegal war.

It was never stated as a justification for the illegal war on Iran, though fervent efforts to post date the claim are noted..

Iran and USA/Israel have been enemies for as long as I can remember , Iranian proxies have been attacking Israel for 50 odd years , its nothing new .

The current conflict stems from the Oct 7 th attack and Israel is withing its rights to bring those responsible for the attack to justice

9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Its common knowledge that Iran were funding Hamas and fully supporting the regular missile attacks on Israel .

Its common knowledge that Iran supports Hamas and there fight against Israel and they praised the Oct 7 th attack .

I don't know the exact role the Iranian Government played in it it, but they funded it and supported it .

Following reports regarding Iranian involvement in the 7 October 2023 attacks, officials from the U.S., Iran, and Israel disputed the allegations. On 11 October, a Wall Street Journal report indicated that U.S. intelligence had not seen evidence that Iran was behind or supported the attack, with subsequent intelligence suggesting Iranian officials were surprised by it.

Here is some more "Common knowledge for you"

Based on historical accounts and statements from Israeli officials, there is well-documented evidence that Israeli authorities in the late 1970s and 1980s supported and helped facilitate the rise of Islamist movements in Gaza, including the group that would become Hamas, as a deliberate "divide and rule" strategy to weaken the secular Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) led by Yasser Arafat.

Please tell the group who the bad guys are, in your opinion?

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Iran and USA/Israel have been enemies for as long as I can remember , Iranian proxies have been attacking Israel for 50 odd years , its nothing new .

The current conflict stems from the Oct 7 th attack and Israel is withing its rights to bring those responsible for the attack to justice

Which is not evidence that the basis for the current illegal Israeli/US war of aggression against Iran stems from the heinous Hamas terrorist attack of October 7.

Your resort to the term ‘conflict’ does not hide the illegality of the Israeli/US ‘war of aggression’ against Iran.

You have provided zero evidence to substantiate your claim that the heinous terrorist attack by Hamas of October 7 is the basis for this illegal Israeli/US war of aggression.

Just now, Jeff the Chef said:

Following reports regarding Iranian involvement in the 7 October 2023 attacks, officials from the U.S., Iran, and Israel disputed the allegations. On 11 October, a Wall Street Journal report indicated that U.S. intelligence had not seen evidence that Iran was behind or supported the attack, with subsequent intelligence suggesting Iranian officials were surprised by it.

Here is some more "Common knowledge for you"

Based on historical accounts and statements from Israeli officials, there is well-documented evidence that Israeli authorities in the late 1970s and 1980s supported and helped facilitate the rise of Islamist movements in Gaza, including the group that would become Hamas, as a deliberate "divide and rule" strategy to weaken the secular Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) led by Yasser Arafat.

Please tell the group who the bad guys are, in your opinion?

Israel's initial support of Hamas is quite off topic in a thread about Iran having Nuclear weapons

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Your resort to the term ‘conflict’ does not hide the illegality of the Israeli/US ‘war of aggression’ against Iran.

Which word would you like me to use to describe the long running disagreement between Israel and Iran ?

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

Which word would you like me to use to describe the long running disagreement between Israel and Iran ?

Whichever you like.

But non you choose will justify the illegal Israeli/US ‘war of aggression’ against Iran.

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You have provided zero evidence to substantiate your claim that the heinous terrorist attack by Hamas of October 7 is the basis for this illegal Israeli/US war of aggression.

The events follow each other .

Hamas attacked Israel on Oct 7 th > Israel invaded Gaza > Israel bombed terrorists in Syria > Iran bombed Israel > Israel bombs Iran .

The current (What do you want me to call it? war/conflict/ disagreement ) didn't happen in a vacuum

13 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The events follow each other .

Hamas attacked Israel on Oct 7 th > Israel invaded Gaza > Israel bombed terrorists in Syria > Iran bombed Israel > Israel bombs Iran .

The current (What do you want me to call it? war/conflict/ disagreement ) didn't happen in a vacuum

Yes the events follow each other and of course history started on October 7.

You have still not provided any evidence that the illegal Israeli/US war of aggression stems from the heinous terrorist Hamas attack of October 7.

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Yes the events follow each other and of course history started on October 7.

You have still not provided any evidence that the illegal Israeli/US war of aggression stems from the heinous terrorist Hamas attack of October 7.

I didn't say history started on Oct 7 th .

There were events before that .

The evidence is the timeline .

But I understand you will have different opinion , some conspiracy about Jews wanting to take over the World and Iran just wants nuclear power stations

2 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Crikey, this is as OFF TOPIC as one can get.

Who gives a <deleted> about history, it's the 21st century I'm worried about, me and my precious family.

And therein lies the problem, if one can't learn from history then you're just stuck in a Land of self-absorption, like huuuuge Don.

4 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Crikey, this is as OFF TOPIC as one can get.

Who gives a <deleted> about history, it's the 21st century I'm worried about, me and my precious family.

And therein lies the problem if we can't learn from history then we're simply stuck in the land of self-absorption, just like Don.

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Not another one .

That's now six Anti Israelis who keep making "lie" allegations .

Iran bombed Israel at a later date and then Israel retaliated by bombing Iran .

1 Oct 7 th terror attack .

2 Iran bombs Israel

3 Israel then bombs Iran

And how is that one working out right now?

39 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Israel's initial support of Hamas is quite off topic in a thread about Iran having Nuclear weapons

So, Israel can help/fund Hamas and when they attack Israel it's Iran's funding that is the problem?

The fact that Israel has Nuclear Weapons, the only State in the region, and that's all good until another State, Iran wants Nuclear capability for whatever purpose and then that's bad, even though Israel has been terrorising their neighbours for decades, with the help and support of the nation with one of the biggest stockpiles of nuclear weapons in history.

Do you not see the problem here?

Edited May 7May 7 by Jeff the Chef

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The Oct 7 the terror attack on Israel was by Hamas , who were funded by Iran .

Iran funded the Oct 7th attack .

Yeah, about that......

'For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces'

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

"Gazans celebrate by a destroyed Israeli tank at the broken Israel-Gaza border fence, east of Khan Younis, October 7, 2023. (AP/Yousef Masoud)

For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank — bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group.

The idea was to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state.

Thus, amid this bid to impair Abbas, Hamas was upgraded from a mere terror group to an organization with which Israel held indirect negotiations via Egypt, and one that was allowed to receive infusions of cash from abroad."

Israel funded the 7th October attack.

16 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Crikey, this is as OFF TOPIC as one can get.

Who gives a <deleted> about history, it's the 21st century I'm worried about, me and my precious family.

And therein lies the problem if we can't learn from history then we're simply stuck in the land of self-absorption, just like Don

Yes, we learn from history, but it's irrelevant.

Rulers change, leaders change, now we have a psychopath in charge of a country that deploys terrorism on Australian soil.

Yes, let's give these reckless, ruthless, barbaric people a nuke.

Its you, your people with Wokeism who will destroy us good people.

36 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I didn't say history started on Oct 7 th .

There were events before that .

The evidence is the timeline .

But I understand you will have different opinion , some conspiracy about Jews wanting to take over the World and Iran just wants nuclear power stations

I’m not sure why you are posting this garbage “some conspiracy about Jews wanting to take over the World ”

Nobody is making any such claim in this thread and I myself have never made such a claim anywhere at any time.

32 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not sure why you are posting this garbage “some conspiracy about Jews wanting to take over the World ”

Nobody is making any such claim in this thread and I myself have never made such a claim anywhere at any time.

OK, so why did Israel bomb Iran ?