We have another issue today where a member went after another member via PM, harassing them about a "Thumbs down" !

So that's 2 recent instances I've shared with you. What would you suggest we do with these members who behave in this way ? as it seems the majority who have participated here would like to keep the visibility of the poster.

Lets hear your thoughts on this ?

Why change anything, the majority are happy to keep emojis and with the emojee being identified. That we've a few numpties on board with extra thin-skins shouldn't change anything, provisions exist within the forum rules regarding threatening pms, apply them.

9 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

What would you suggest we do with these members who behave in this way ?

Depending on the severity of the verbiage, warning at the minimum. Though ultimately it’s your decision being the referee who decides the final calls here?

Anyway, just a personal opinion, PM’s should be on a friendly basis only. Period.

Edited July 3Jul 3 by novacova

39 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

We have another issue today where a member went after another member via PM, harassing them about a "Thumbs down" !

So that's 2 recent instances I've shared with you. What would you suggest we do with these members who behave in this way ? as it seems the majority who have participated here would like to keep the visibility of the poster.

Lets hear your thoughts on this ?

Ban them on the grounds that this forum is for the over 18's. Any 'adult' who actually reacts to these emojis surely must still be in kindergarten

I’d lean toward keeping the emoji/poster names visible for transparency and accountability.

When reactions are anonymous, it can create two problems:

• People can “target” others via PM or follow-up harassment, as you’ve just seen

• It removes any natural brake on behaviour, because there’s no visible ownership of the reaction

If someone knows their reaction is visible, they’re more likely to behave responsibly. It also helps mods spot patterns early if the same accounts are repeatedly involved in disputes.

The downside of visibility is potential friction, but anonymity seems to be driving more of the behavioural issues, not less.

On the members going after others via PM over reactions — that crosses a line. That’s no longer “forum disagreement”, it’s harassment. IMO that should be a clear warning or suspension, because it undermines the whole community trust.

So I’d keep visibility, and deal firmly with any off-platform retaliation.

1 hour ago, CharlieH said:

Lets hear your thoughts on this ?

Perhaps we need a new feature to PM's., the ability to block a user who is sending abusive messages or any message..obviously the admin and mods would be exempt from those a 'thin skinned' member could block.

5 minutes ago, johng said:

Perhaps we need a new feature to PM's., the ability to block a user who is sending abusive messages or any message

People really send nasty PM's?

1 hour ago, CharlieH said:

We have another issue today where a member went after another member via PM, harassing them about a "Thumbs down" !

So that's 2 recent instances I've shared with you. What would you suggest we do with these members who behave in this way ? as it seems the majority who have participated here would like to keep the visibility of the poster.

Lets hear your thoughts on this ?

Can't the member who received an unwanted message block or unfollow the other guy?

If not just not respond to the member messaging, no reason to waste a moderators time with that one

1 hour ago, CharlieH said:

We have another issue today where a member went after another member via PM, harassing them about a "Thumbs down" !

So that's 2 recent instances I've shared with you. What would you suggest we do with these members who behave in this way ? as it seems the majority who have participated here would like to keep the visibility of the poster.

Lets hear your thoughts on this ?

Eliminate thumbs down. Keep thumbs up.

The system is definitely better now showing the emoji poster name, don't let a small minority ruin for everyone else

3 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Eliminate thumbs down. Keep thumbs up.

Yeah that's what facebook,youtube Instagram, others do, must be a good reason for that.

I just checked another Pattaya forum, they also don't have thumbs down, but it is very boring, nice to be nice ethos which is frankly boring, tumble weeds often

Edited July 3Jul 3 by scubascuba3

43 minutes ago, TedG said:

People really send nasty PM's?

Well @CharlieH says they do.

People need to grow-up and accept that not everyone agrees with your comment and posts a thumbs-down, grow a set and more on. However, sending a nasty or harassing PM is not acceptable under any circumstances and should receive a kicking or kicked out depending on its severity.

Your call.

4 hours ago, CharlieH said:

We have another issue today where a member went after another member via PM, harassing them about a "Thumbs down" !

So that's 2 recent instances I've shared with you. What would you suggest we do with these members who behave in this way ? as it seems the majority who have participated here would like to keep the visibility of the poster.

Lets hear your thoughts on this ?

I think anyone who harasses by PM should receive a ban of some sort.

And anyone who complains to mods or in public about emojis should be told to grow up and get on with their lives.

It's so much better now they are not anonymous again. If (supposedly) grown men can't deal with someone disagreeing with a post by clicking on a button to make some little coloured pixels appear then a public forum is not the right place for them.

Harsh but true.

2 hours ago, TedG said:

People really send nasty PM's?

Where is the setting for a member to say they do not want to receive any PMs?

13 minutes ago, wil iam not said:

Where is the setting for a member to say they do not want to receive any PMs?

Why, do you get too many to just ignore them?

Go to messages --> inbox. Then there's an option to disable messenger.

4 hours ago, CharlieH said:

We have another issue today where a member went after another member via PM, harassing them about a "Thumbs down" !

So that's 2 recent instances I've shared with you. What would you suggest we do with these members who behave in this way ? as it seems the majority who have participated here would like to keep the visibility of the poster.

Lets hear your thoughts on this ?

Just tell them it is part of being on a public forum. I was one of those that thought putting names an emoji was a bad idea but I was wrong. It is a much better experience now and has reduced the fools that get a rush out of down voting certain members.

32 minutes ago, wil iam not said:

Where is the setting for a member to say they do not want to receive any PMs?

Why do you receive all these Personal messages and I don't ?

I'm not saying your lying , but why am I being left out ??.

7 hours ago, CharlieH said:

What would you suggest we do with these members who behave in this way ? as it seems the majority who have participated here would like to keep the visibility of the poster.

Lets hear your thoughts on this ?

You should get creative. If members abuse the thumbs down or PM features, don't just warn them but give them ten negative votes as a penalty for each "offense." This would be a more effective deterrent for members worried about getting negative votes than just the risk of a "toothless" warning.

I don't know if AN's software allows for it, but if possible, write a message that all members must read and acknowledge before they proceed to the forum's posts. That message should make clear that receiving an occasional thumbs down vote is part of the board experience and cannot be protested publicly through posts or privately via PM. Harassment of any member because of thumbs down votes is strictly forbidden and could result in the guilty member getting kicked off the board.

Members can report excessive use of the thumbs down vote to the Mods, but receiving a single thumbs down vote is not grounds for action by the Mods.

10 hours ago, CharlieH said:

What would you suggest we do with these members who behave in this way ? as it seems the majority who have participated here would like to keep the visibility of the poster.

Lets hear your thoughts on this ?

Ban, expell, whatever you guys call it now or maybe a week or a month on the sideline.

These type of guys are punished from being unable to comment or post, some here are addicted to forum interaction.

They've been warned, they're also breaking forum rules.

Why worry about getting a thumbs down or a question mark?

It does make me think did I write something obtuse or ill thought out but I never get annoyed that there is someone who doesn't agree with my opinion. I sometimes notice that it is someone who doesn't express his opinion on words but don't get upset. Maybe he can't type - who knows.

50 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

They've been warned, they're also breaking forum rules.

Part of the problem is that is not clear what a negative vote means. Which one of the options below is it?

• "I don't like this post." This usually means you don't like the content of the post, but the dislike could also concern the form, tone, spelling or length of the post. For example, I might not care about the content, but dislike the odd formatting of the text or excessive use of CAPS and emojis.

• "I disagree with this post." Disagreement might center on "big" issues like the Trump presidency or Gaza conflict or "small ones" like which is the best show on TV or the best restaurant in Pattaya. Basically, the negative vote means you have a different opinion, whatever the subject.

• "This post is really bad." It is a "warning" thumbs down about posts with highly offensive contents or untrue information that could be dangerous. If a poster wrote U.S. Medicare covers medical expenses outside the U.S. or that it is OK to physically abuse Thai women, it would definitely deserve such a thumbs down. I give thumbs down votes to posts that are anti-semitic or contain lies about Israel.

• "Any or all of the above." A board member could use the above points on a number of posts, which another might limit his use of negative votes to warning about the post.

One non-Thai-related forum I belonged to reserved the thumbs down for "I don't like" or "I disagree" reactions. The "really bad" designation was indicated by a separate "death's head" emoji.

In any case, all thumbs down reactions are just subjective responses to other members' posts. A thumbs down doesn't necessarily mean there is anything wrong with the post.

i'm not surprised by the poll results, but i'm surprised that only about 230 members voted.

so, in the end, the whole emoji thing isn't such a big deal after all? ... 🤔

13 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Can't the member who received an unwanted message block or unfollow the other guy?

....

Yes, but they will still know that out there somewhere, there is a nasty forum member sending hurty word PMs to them.... how can one live with that kind of stress...?

6 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

i'm not surprised by the poll results, but i'm surprised that only about 230 members voted.

so, in the end, the whole emoji thing isn't such a big deal after all? ... 🤔

Well, that's because 230 is about how many forum members are active. You're member #85,179 (which actually is quite an early member number - I'm member #174). I think member numbers are up around 300,000, but that is just a number!

Why aren't these emojis gender neutral?

14 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Why aren't these emojis gender neutral?

If we had one like this, I'd use it all the time

7 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Members can report excessive use of the thumbs down vote to the Mods, but receiving a single thumbs down vote is not grounds for action by the Mods

i get the same thumbs doqn from the same posters so its meaningless to me. it would happen if i announced a cure for cancer.

its a badge of honour to get a thumbs down from a these folks anyway

keep the giggle one there is some funny stuff

Edited July 4Jul 4 by Yagoda

12 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

I think anyone who harasses by PM should receive a ban of some sort.

And anyone who complains to mods or in public about emojis should be told to grow up and get on with their lives.

It's so much better now they are not anonymous again. If (supposedly) grown men can't deal with someone disagreeing with a post by clicking on a button to make some little coloured pixels appear then a public forum is not the right place for them.

Harsh but true.

Endless arguments are not good

15 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Why do you receive all these Personal messages and I don't ?

I'm not saying your lying , but why am I being left out ??.

No GG. I do not get many PMs, certainly not bad ones. I tried to send one to another member and it said that he did not accept PMs.

Edited July 4Jul 4 by wil iam not