19 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Oh, you are one of the people who teach English on an international forum, where there are many non-native speakers. Brit perhaps?

And in this case, it was just missing two letters. Oki Doki, go on strong boy!

Missing two letters out of many words could change the meaning. And yes, I was an E..lish te..her m..y y..rs a.o. so notice these spelling mistakes.

Am I wrong to correct them, the same as I correct my 6 years old grandson if he says something incorrectly?

7 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

and you still can't speak it...mmm khun kwaai

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

No better way to hear how things are supposed to sound Thai than listening to a Thai born wife or girlfriend speaking to her family or friends.

Only if they are educated and not much of an accent. Lots of Thais drop Rs or swap Rs for Ls. Many farangs marry women with limited education.

9 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Go watch a fighter being interviewed on youtube. It is Moi not Moo. You really are clueless.

not interested...you only hear what you want to hear.. the tones are, at times very subtle.. but hey, you said you've been here for 25 years...surely you have at least 1 Thai friend you can ask.

6 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Only if they are educated and not much of an accent. Lots of Thais drop Rs or swap Rs for Ls. Many farangs marry women with limited education.

and many farang never get it right...I bet you get koh wrong..

4 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Only if they are educated and not much of an accent. Lots of Thais drop Rs or swap Rs for Ls. Many farangs marry women with limited education.

Nothing to do with education but raised in the country. Most Thais originate in the country areas, and many have a combined dialect. Isaan, a blend, , Thai, Cambodian and Myanmar influences, much depending on how close their family lived to borders.

Edited June 11Jun 11 by fredwiggy

Just now, Aussie999 said:

and many farang never get it right...I bet you get koh wrong..

Like yourself. Go listen to Muay on an app. No moo sound.

2 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

You sound like a novice. I was taught how to say the word in 2005 by Thais in gym. You really are a moron. Proven beyond all doubt!

I knew how to say "Moy Tie" when I lived in New Jersey in the 70's, training with my teacher. Ours was a combination of TaeKwondo, Muay Thai and Karate.

Edited June 11Jun 11 by fredwiggy

2 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

They all say Moi. Only farangs say Moo. Go ask 5 Thais and listen you moo-ron.

you seen to be getting very personal..certainly a sign of a person losing a debate...I did challenge you to go ask a thai...after all, you did say you have lived here for 25 years... by the way, do you know what hoi means..or can mean

4 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

you seen to be getting very personal..certainly a sign of a person losing a debate...I did challenge you to go ask a thai...after all, you did say you have lived here for 25 years... by the way, do you know what hoi means..or can mean

Hoi means pussy as does Jim. I see you learnt a few naughty words. What a hero. Now go to a muay thai gym and ask the trainers how to pronounce the word correctly.

8 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

well. one of us is certainly a moron ... also, one of us is a liar.. I'll leave it up to readers to decide.

Well you are a fool. Ignorant in the extreme. Go educate yourself and then come back and apologise.

1 minute ago, Rockyroad said:

Well you are a fool. Ignorant in the extreme. Go educate yourself and then come back and apologise.

as I said, I'll leave it up to reads... I actually think you're full of <deleted>...

1 minute ago, Aussie999 said:

I said, go ask thais...surely you know at least one, after living here for 25 years...or was that bull<deleted>.

You go ask Thais. I learnt how to say it in 05 in Thai gyms from Thais. You keep doubling down on being wrong. Clearly you are a fool.

2 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

as I said, I'll leave it up to reads... I actually think you're full of <deleted>...

I know you are full of it. Go listen to Thais or John Wayne Parr say it.

I'm amazed how dumb you are. Proven wrong but still at it.

4 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Well you are a fool. Ignorant in the extreme. Go educate yourself and then come back and apologise.

He's actually right, as many Thais, my girlfriend included, as her Nick is Muay, say it drawn out moo-ay as this AI explains...........

Yes, some Thai people might pronounce "Muay Thai" in a way that sounds like "moo-oi tie" to English speakers, though strictly speaking, the correct phonetic pronunciation in Thai is more like "moo-ay tie".

The pronunciation naturally varies in day-to-day conversation:

• "Moo-ay" (The word for boxing/combat): When spoken quickly or with certain regional accents, the two vowel sounds in "Muay" can blend together. This results in something closely resembling "Moo-oi" or even "Moy".

• "Tie" (The word for Thailand): This is pronounced identically to the English word for tying your shoe

Because the Thai language is heavily tonal, it can often sound quite different depending on the specific speaker. To native Thais, saying "Moo-oi Tie" is perfectly understood, and the martial art is a source of immense cultural pride in the country.

The more you're integrated into the Thai populace, meaning actual wives and girlfriends, the more you'll hear how more Thais speak. It's either Moy-Tie or Moo-ay tie A link explains more.............https://sibaimuaythai.com/moo-ay-thai-is-the-right-pronunciation/

Edited June 11Jun 11 by fredwiggy

5 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

I said, go ask thais...surely you know at least one, after living here for 25 years...or was that bull<deleted>.

Best to remain quiet about subjects you know nothing about. Obviously you have never trained in the sport or been to a live event.

You are exactly the type of farang I would avoid.

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

He's actually right, as many Thais, my girlfriend included, as her Nick is Muay, say it drawn out moo-ay as this AI explains...........

Yes, some Thai people might pronounce "Muay Thai" in a way that sounds like "moo-oi tie" to English speakers, though strictly speaking, the correct phonetic pronunciation in Thai is more like "moo-ay tie".

The pronunciation naturally varies in day-to-day conversation:

• "Moo-ay" (The word for boxing/combat): When spoken quickly or with certain regional accents, the two vowel sounds in "Muay" can blend together. This results in something closely resembling "Moo-oi" or even "Moy".

• "Tie" (The word for Thailand): This is pronounced identically to the English word for tying your shoe

Because the Thai language is heavily tonal, it can often sound quite different depending on the specific speaker. To native Thais, saying "Moo-oi Tie" is perfectly understood, and the martial art is a source of immense cultural pride in the country.

The more you're integrated into the Thai populace, meaning actual wives and girlfriends, the more you'll hear how more Thais speak

All wrong dude.

It is pronounced "Mway Tie" (or Moy Tie).

If you want to sound like a local instead of a tourist, here is the quick breakdown of how the two syllables actually work:

1. Muay (มวย)

• How to say it: Think of it like "Mway" (rhymes with play or away), but blended quickly into a single sound.

• The common mistake: A lot of Westerners pronounce it as "Moo-ay"

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

native Thais, saying "Moo-oi Tie" is perfectly understood, and the martial art is a source of immense cultural pride in the country.

Totally wrong. Thais never say Moo. Only farangs do. Another guy who has never been to the Muay Thai.

2 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

All wrong dude.

All right. I think my girlfriend, who's Nick is Muay, knows more how to properly say it than you. I learned before you were out of grammar school how it's pronounced, by a Thai.

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

He's actually right, as many Thais, my girlfriend included, as her Nick is Muay, say it drawn out moo-ay as this AI explains...........

Yes, some Thai people might pronounce "Muay Thai" in a way that sounds like "moo-oi tie" to English speakers, though strictly speaking, the correct phonetic pronunciation in Thai is more like "moo-ay tie".

The pronunciation naturally varies in day-to-day conversation:

• "Moo-ay" (The word for boxing/combat): When spoken quickly or with certain regional accents, the two vowel sounds in "Muay" can blend together. This results in something closely resembling "Moo-oi" or even "Moy".

• "Tie" (The word for Thailand): This is pronounced identically to the English word for tying your shoe

Because the Thai language is heavily tonal, it can often sound quite different depending on the specific speaker. To native Thais, saying "Moo-oi Tie" is perfectly understood, and the martial art is a source of immense cultural pride in the country.

The more you're integrated into the Thai populace, meaning actual wives and girlfriends, the more you'll hear how more Thais speak. It's either Moy-Tie or Moo-ay tie A link explains more.............https://sibaimuaythai.com/moo-ay-thai-is-the-right-pronunciation/

thank you...now we wait for Rockyroad to reply...and maybe an apology, though I doubt we'll get one. 555

1 minute ago, Aussie999 said:

thank you...now we wait for Rockyroad to reply...and maybe an apology, though I doubt we'll get one. 555

It is pronounced "Mway Tie" (or Moy Tie).

If you want to sound like a local instead of a tourist, here is the quick breakdown of how the two syllables actually work:

1. Muay (มวย)

• How to say it: Think of it like "Mway" (rhymes with play or away), but blended quickly into a single sound.

• The common mistake: A lot of Westerners pronounce it as "Moo-ay"

1 minute ago, Rockyroad said:

Totally wrong. Thais never say Moo. Only farangs do. Another guy who has never been to the Muay Thai.

1 minute ago, Rockyroad said:

Totally wrong. Thais never say Moo. Only farangs do. Another guy who has never been to the Muay Thai.

Some Thais say Moo-ay, just as that link, my teachers, 3,my girlfriend, and many others. Never assume where anyone's been or how much they know just because you learned from another's opinion, who isn't Thai. You're wrong and you owe him an apology, but that will never come as you've always been proven wrong, by people who actually have the knowledge and aren't listening to opinions.

1 minute ago, Aussie999 said:

thank you...now we wait for Rockyroad to reply...and maybe an apology, though I doubt we'll get one. 555

I await your apology but you are not man enough to admit being wrong. Same as Fred. The sound is on Translation apps and Youtube.

You're a small man.

2 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

I await your apology but you are not man enough to admit being wrong. Same as Fred. The sound is on Translation apps and Youtube.

You're a small man.

at least I'm a man...

Just now, Aussie999 said:

at least I'm a man...

Are you? You still have not checked the sound on Youtube or Apps or asked Thais. You sound really thick. I learnt the sound in 05 in Thai gyms, well before you went to Thailand. But you still claim to be right even after being proved wrong.

2 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

I await your apology but you are not man enough to admit being wrong. Same as Fred. The sound is on Translation apps and Youtube.

You're a small man.

even your "definition" confuses itself..first it says moi them mway..rhymes with play, did you make it up yourself...
like I said, after 25 years, in Thailand..you must have a thai friend, that can help you.... but let me guess, that 25 years...bull<deleted>e

Edited June 11Jun 11 by Aussie999

2 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

I await your apology but you are not man enough to admit being wrong. Same as Fred. The sound is on Translation apps and Youtube.

You're a small man.

Like I mentioned, it's best to actually be relating to locals for years, wives, girlfriends, extended families, people who actually taught Muay Thai, than going by how a foreigner that practices Muay Thai says it, as he wasn't raised in Thailand, and had the language ingrained since birth, like my girlfriend, teacher, school owner, extended family, friends and school teachers, who I hear daily speaking for the last almost 9 years.

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Some Thais say Moo-ay, just as that link, my teachers, 3,my girlfriend, and many others. Never assume where anyone's been or how much they know just because you learned from another's opinion, who isn't Thai. You're wrong and you owe him an apology, but that will never come as you've always been proven wrong, by people who actually have the knowledge and aren't listening to opinions.

No Thais say Moo, only farangs. You're old with bad hearing. Go see a doctor.

1 minute ago, Rockyroad said:

Are you? You still have not checked the sound on Youtube or Apps or asked Thais. You sound really thick. I learnt the sound in 05 in Thai gyms, well before you went to Thailand. But you still claim to be right even after being proved wrong.

I told you before, but your dementia has kicked in... I have asked many thais, not only my wife....

2 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

even you "definition" confuses itself..first it says moi them mway..rhymes with play, did you make it up yourself...
like I said, after 25 years, in Thailand..you must have a thai friend, that can help you.... but let me guess, that 25 years...bull<deleted>e

Moi is closer than Moo or Mway. No direct translation from Thai script to English. Given you don't follow the sport you must be bored to keep going and yet be so wrong.

Go to a muay thai gym tomorrow and ask the trainers.

Good luck Moo Man