Police...clean Up House

[hgma]

A recently held poll showed that the overwhelming majority of THAI people don't have any confidence in their Police force.

As silly as it may seem.....its the root of anarchie....according to my opinion.

If ordinairy people cant rely on their police force who will enforce the law??

100 men on the rampage?

HIT-men

content of the wallet?

Indeed it seems..................

The biggist problem in this sort of cases is the "selfmade culture" inside the policeforce.

to get rid of this culture takes at least a generation (of new born-new recruted police)

Same as all the old communist states....at LEAST a generation...its foollish to ASSUME that reshuffling the topbrass once in a while is enough to cleaning up house ...its not !

I am sure that The Kingdom of Thailand with all her aspirations of the "new Singapore' in the region must cleun up (police) house and FAST>

hgma

hgma

[sbk]

not Visa related, moved to General Forum.

Also, do you have a source for this recent poll? Curious as to who ran the poll.

[mark100]

A recently held poll showed that the overwhelming majority of THAI people don't have any confidence in their Police force.

As silly as it may seem.....its the root of anarchie....according to my opinion.

If ordinairy people cant rely on their police force who will enforce the law??

100 men on the rampage?

HIT-men

content of the wallet?

Indeed it seems..................

The biggist problem in this sort of cases is the "selfmade culture" inside the policeforce.

to get rid of this culture takes at least a generation (of new born-new recruted police)

Same as all the old communist states....at LEAST a generation...its foollish to ASSUME that reshuffling the topbrass once in a while is enough to cleaning up house ...its not !

I am sure that The Kingdom of Thailand with all her aspirations of the "new Singapore' in the region must cleun up (police) house and FAST>

hgma

hgma

You could recruit a whole new police force..............but when you pay peanuts.............you get.. .......corruption!!

[stevemiddie]

not Visa related, moved to General Forum.

Also, do you have a source for this recent poll? Curious as to who ran the poll.

It was a poll recently conducted and published in one of the main Bangkok newspapers. Can,t remember if it was The Post or The Nation.

The same poll also asked questions to the Police...........who complained of low pay.....having to give " Gifts " to supervisors to ensure promotion etc......lack of good equipment..............lack of manpower etc

Edited August 28, 2007 by stevemiddie

[ozzydom]

In most Western countries,the collection of bribes (tea money) is illegal,but I recall that a couple of years ago Thaksin made an order that capped tea money at about 10k per month ,per officer with about 30% to be passed in to the collecting officers station for sharing among the office bound personell.

Pretty hard to call it corruption when it is legal.

[sbk]

The Nation:

Police still have a poor image: poll

Citizens still see police in a negative light, believing that they are under the sway of powerful politicians, while officers cite the lack of hi-tech equipment, budget crunches and low salaries as obstacles to police operations, according to poll results released yesterday.

Published on August 26, 2007

The public opinion survey on police structural reform received valid responses from 8,613 members of the public and police officers nationwide from January to July.

Noppadol Kannikar, director of Assumption University's Abac Poll Research Centre, said most people held a dim view of the police.

They cited police being under powerful politicians (87 per cent), discriminating while providing services to the public (77 per cent), extorting money and requesting bribes (72 per cent) and using money to buy desirable transfers and positions (67.5 per cent). People with direct experience in police work at police stations in 24 provinces were asked for negative and positive impressions.

On the negative side, they noted unfriendliness (33 per cent), understaffing with on-duty officers (23 per cent), lack of hi-tech tools (27 per cent), threats against them (16 per cent), inappropriate behaviour such as drinking and gambling (15 per cent), asking for bribes (10 per cent) and beating suspects (8 per cent).

On the positive side, they answered friendliness (79 per cent), good service/advice (74 per cent), hard-working officers (68 per cent), fair police work (61 per cent) and timely access to crime scenes (60 per cent).

Aspects that the surveyed police officers wanted to be reformed include a payment hike for low-ranking officers (95.5 per cent), adjustment of police investigators' salaries to be the equivalent of public prosecutors' pay (82 per cent) and internal adjustments for missions such as transnational crimes (80 per cent).

On problems working with supervisors, 57.5 per cent of the polled police said they gave benefits to supervisors in exchange for positions and career survival, 57 per cent thought there were too many supervisors and 55 per cent had problems with discrimination from their supervisor.

About obstacles in police units' operations, the polled officers cited the lack of hi-tech and effective tools (98 per cent), overall budget shortage (96 per cent) and unrealistic budget allocation for police tasks (95 per cent). They also cited the low salary that was not in line with real living conditions and expenses (93 per cent) and the staff shortage to handle the workload (88 per cent).

Noppadol's comments were made during his visit to Chiang Mai along with General Wasit Dejkunchornto, chair of the police reform panel, to gather views on the police reform plan.

Wasit said reform was necessary because the force centralised tasks, had a long chain of command and used a transfer system that still disregarded justice. Salaries are not commensurate with workloads while low-ranking officers are disheartened by having no chance to become commissioned officers, he said.

The reform plan would smooth police operations and allow more public participation in monitoring the police, he said.

The Nation

[Jimjim]

1000 years

[hgma]

bangkok post

27/08/2007

not Visa related, moved to General Forum.

Also, do you have a source for this recent poll? Curious as to who ran the poll.

[kmart]

Seems to be a running battle between the cops and armed forces as to who gets their man into the top spot, and <deleted> to the electorate or civilian population. In this respect both forces are just an army of the rich.

[Mid]

so , we have garment factory's shutting up shop and and entire police force required to buy their own uniforms X2 ea ,

right , next .........................................

[LongThaimer]

I am sure that The Kingdom of Thailand with all her aspirations of the "new Singapore' in the region must cleun up (police) house and FAST>

hgma

hgma

No doubt, Thai police force needs sweeping changes in terms of professionalism, efficiency, etc....

Not sure though, if Thailand is aspiring to be ( new Singapore ) ??? Thais like to go to Singapore for shopping but they certainly don't like Thailand to become like Singapore, where playboy is banned and oral sex is illegal ????!!!!! Not Thailand, no chance .

Edited August 28, 2007 by LongThaimer